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Dont deleat the "for a list of charecter quotes see [[List of Quotes in the Mario Golf Series]] " It needs to be there so that List of Quotes in the Mario Golf Series has links leading to I'm not saying dont edit it I'm just saying leave the link. [[User:Dark boo|Dark boo]] [[Image:Dark_Boo_TTYD.PNG|35px]]
Dont deleat the "for a list of charecter quotes see [[List of Quotes in the Mario Golf Series]] " It needs to be there so that List of Quotes in the Mario Golf Series has links leading to I'm not saying dont edit it I'm just saying leave the link. [[User:Dark boo|Dark boo]] [[Image:PMTTYD Dark Boo Sprite.png|35px]]


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== Considering NES Open Tournament Golf a "predecessor" ==
== Considering NES Open Tournament Golf a "predecessor" ==


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While I concede that ''Golf'' and probably by extension ''Family Computer Golf'' are fairly predecessorial(?), ''NES Open Tournament Golf'' was called '''''Mario''' Open Golf'' in Japan and introducd the use of original humans who follow the ''Mario'' aesthetic, along with the more comprehensive gameplay regarding clubs. Sure, it was before Camelot, the Nintendo 64 game seems more like a logical progression of its ideas in the same way ''Toadstool Tour'' is to the N64 game. I think ''NES Open Tournament Golf'' should be considered the first game in the actual series, since before that is a little hazy. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 04:06, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
While I concede that ''Golf'' and probably by extension ''Family Computer Golf'' are fairly predecessorial(?), ''NES Open Tournament Golf'' was called '''''Mario''' Open Golf'' in Japan and introducd the use of original humans who follow the ''Mario'' aesthetic, along with the more comprehensive gameplay regarding clubs. Sure, it was before Camelot, the Nintendo 64 game seems more like a logical progression of its ideas in the same way ''Toadstool Tour'' is to the N64 game. I think ''NES Open Tournament Golf'' should be considered the first game in the actual series, since before that is a little hazy. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 04:06, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
:It's kind of the same reason why ''Mario's Tennis'' is an indirect predecessor to the ''Mario Tennis'' series: the developer involved. The ''Mario Tennis'' and ''Mario Golf'' series are "direct" in the sense that they are all developed by Camelot. Similarly, the direct ''Mario Kart'' games are those developed in-house by Nintendo EAD, not by Bandai Namco (for the arcade games). This is how I understand it. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 18:27, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
:It's kind of the same reason why ''Mario's Tennis'' is an indirect predecessor to the ''Mario Tennis'' series: the developer involved. The ''Mario Tennis'' and ''Mario Golf'' series are "direct" in the sense that they are all developed by Camelot. Similarly, the direct ''Mario Kart'' games are those developed in-house by Nintendo EAD, not by Bandai Namco (for the arcade games). This is how I understand it. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 18:27, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
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::::"a Mario golf game doesn't necessarily make a ''Mario Golf'' game" [[Talk:Mario Tennis (series)|That's exactly what I've been saying about ''Mario's Tennis''.]] <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 19:25, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
::::"a Mario golf game doesn't necessarily make a ''Mario Golf'' game" [[Talk:Mario Tennis (series)|That's exactly what I've been saying about ''Mario's Tennis''.]] <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 19:25, October 30, 2019 (EDT)
:::::''Golf'' and ''Famicom Golf'' were just golf games that happened to star Mario (ambiguously in the first case). ''NES Open Tournament Golf'' was a ''Mario'' game centered around golf. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:54, October 31, 2019 (EDT)
:::::''Golf'' and ''Famicom Golf'' were just golf games that happened to star Mario (ambiguously in the first case). ''NES Open Tournament Golf'' was a ''Mario'' game centered around golf. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:54, October 31, 2019 (EDT)
== Split ''Golf'' (series) from ''Mario Golf'' (series) as a predecessor? ==
So the "predecessor/spinoff" list on this page is already a veritable series in its own right, with ''[[Golf]]'', ''[[Family Computer Golf: Japan Course]]'', ''[[Family Computer Golf: US Course]]'', and ''[[Mobile Golf]]''. From what I can see, the series name here is simply "''Golf''," with ''Mario Golf'' being in turn a spinoff of it. I think it perhaps should be its own article in the same manner as [[Famicom Grand Prix (series)|''Famicom Grand Prix'' (series)]]. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:42, July 5, 2023 (EDT)