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::::::Yeah, exactly. That makes sense. =) -- {{User|Son of Suns}} | ::::::Yeah, exactly. That makes sense. =) -- {{User|Son of Suns}} | ||
:::::Great, so should we wait for ''more'' feedback, or just go ahead with it now? - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 02:50, 17 January 2009 (EST) | |||
::::::Just go ahead... we've given everyone several days to comment. Usually that's all it takes for a move to be argued. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 12:09, 17 January 2009 (EST) | |||
Done. There's still a few links to "Mario and Luigi's father" kicking around, though... - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 02:52, 18 January 2009 (EST) | |||
==Different Characters== | |||
Not every instance of a character being Mario and Luigi's father is the same exact character. The article should be re-written to acknowledge the role of many characters as their father, rather than a singular one, which is most definitely false. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 00:00, 18 December 2009 (EST) | |||
:We avoided spinning off into "Mario has many fathers from many different appearances" debate on the page because that gets really muddled and speculative. Unless we have good reason to doubt that characters from different media aren't meant to be the same person, we assume they are and write the articles as such. That's why [[Bowser]] from the games, "King Koopa" from the cartoons and "Koopa" from the movie are all the same character, even though they look and act different. It's up to the readers to take what they see in the various appearances with a grain of salt and make their own decisions - our job is merely to give them the information as clearly as possible and make as few judgement calls as possible. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 00:30, 18 December 2009 (EST) | |||
::I can accept that, but the only truly glaring example is the father seen in the Issunboshi anime. That special was a re-telling of a fairy tale, with Mario not exactly "Mario" but filling the role of the child in that fairy tale. Would it be okay to at least revise that section to state the character was "a" father to Mario, but not meant to fill the same role as the other appearances? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 00:33, 18 December 2009 (EST) | |||
:::It would just look inconsistent if we address all the other appearances as Papa without question but not ''[[Super Mario Issunboshi]]''. The anime may take more artistic licenses with the characters than other media, but it's no less valid from a purely facts-driven standpoint. If we don't question things like Bowser playing the role of the Evil Queen in the [[Super Mario Shirayuki-hime|''Snow White'' adaptation]], or Mario hatching from a Peach in ''[[Super Mario Momotarō]]'', we shouldn't question Papa. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 01:28, 18 December 2009 (EST) | |||
== Name revealed. == | |||
Watch this video: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAjhjLuWbC8&feature=player_embedded]. [[Charles Martinet]] says that Mario's father is called "''Pappa Pio Mario''". {{User:Ultra Koopa/Sig}} 15:14, 19 July 2012 (EDT) | |||
== Minor appearance in merchandising == | |||
http://i.imgur.com/nFst76T.png | |||
l33tredrocket on [https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/4z1vtt/a_tin_tray_i_found_in_an_antique_shop_is_that/ reddit] found [http://i.imgur.com/7PExeNG.jpg this Mario tray] which seemingly depicts Mario's dad on a painting. I used Google to find another picture of the tray: [http://i.imgur.com/30VN39j.jpg this one] by Erin Hoffman on [https://fr.pinterest.com/pin/198439927305754763/ Pinterest ]. | |||
Should I add this "appearance" on the article? | |||
I know if this was any other character we wouldn't even try to cover appearances in merchandising (at least not in the main article), but in this case, this is the only time we ever see Mario's dad's face. This seems like a pretty big deal. | |||
Of course, there's also the matter of confirming it's actually Mario's dad, which is pretty much impossible. I think it's clear enough that it's supposed to be him, but I guess no one really knows for sure. Oh, and if a better picture is needed, I could always try and ask l33tredrocket to take another one I guess. {{User:Banon/sig}} 06:48, 23 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
:Then yes you can add it if you want to if confirmed. {{User:Fawful's Minion/sig}} 06:58, 23 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
::Just for the record, [[:File:Tvtray.jpg|an image of the same food tray]] uploaded 6-10 years ago already exists here, though the portrait isn't as noticeable. {{user:Mario jc/sig}} 07:10, 23 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::What do you know! Apparenty an older version of the picture was uploaded 10 years ago, too. Anyway, I've added the relevant information to the article. I treated this new information as unconfirmed. Should we change the article's main picture? The one from the food tray does show Papa's face, but it is only implied it actually is Papa. {{User:Banon/sig}} 08:31, 23 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
Did you know that Mario's eyes are looking in the same direction as the person in the painting. Well now you know. Just a minor detail just to know. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 09:24, 23 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
'''To prevent this image from being reuploaded or posted again, this figure has been identified as a grandfather known as [[Mario and Luigi's family#GPoppy|GPoppy]].'''--[[User:Platform|Platform]] ([[User talk:Platform|talk]]) 05:24, May 2, 2023 (EDT) | |||