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<big><big>'''Further discussion: [[Talk:Super Bowser]]'''</big></big>
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Is this article's title conjectural? I know the SSBM deal makes it at least part conjecture... {{user:yellowYoshi398/sig}}
Is this article's title conjectural? I know the SSBM deal makes it at least part conjecture... {{user:yellowYoshi398/sig}}


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If it's a conjectural form, then it should be merged. {{User:Plumber/Pignature}} 15:16, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
If it's a conjectural form, then it should be merged. {{User:Plumber/Pignature}} 15:16, 26 July 2007 (EDT)


:I'd have to disagee with the merge. Hope I'm not becoming A Link to the Past. http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif
:I'd have to disagee with the merge. Hope I'm not becoming A Link to the Past. '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]'''


I'd say merge. But then again, we do have [[Giant Baby Bowser]].{{User:SpikeKnifeNeedleSword/sig}} 17:20, 20 August 2007 (EDT)
I'd say merge. But then again, we do have [[Giant Baby Bowser]].{{User:SpikeKnifeNeedleSword/sig}} 17:20, 20 August 2007 (EDT)
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I am Zero! '''GUYS THIS IS ''GIANT'' BOWSER, NOT ''GIGA'' BOWSER!!!!''' Zero signing out. {{User|Zero777}}
I am Zero! '''GUYS THIS IS ''GIANT'' BOWSER, NOT ''GIGA'' BOWSER!!!!''' Zero signing out. {{User|Zero777}}


Well we have a full list of his moves in Melee and he appears in other games too. Thers my explanation Zero777. --[[File:Yoshi4.jpeg|35px]][[User:Yoshidude99|Yoshidude99]]  03:55, 23 March 2011 (EDT)
Well we have a full list of his moves in Melee and he appears in other games too. Thers my explanation Zero777. --[[File:Yoshi - Mario Party 10.png|35px]][[User:Yoshidude99|Yoshidude99]]  03:55, 23 March 2011 (EDT)


:Zero777: We are just calling it Giga Bowser because we are used to the name and please don't shout at us like that. Also he kinda is related to Giga Bowser. It is probably a nickname. {{User|Kaptain K. Rool}}
:Zero777: We are just calling it Giga Bowser because we are used to the name and please don't shout at us like that. Also he kinda is related to Giga Bowser. It is probably a nickname. {{User|Kaptain K. Rool}}
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:::I think it should be deleted, it just represents a larger-than-normal Bowser. The Meat-Bowser is the only time that it is a true power-up.{{User|Marioguy1}}
:::I think it should be deleted, it just represents a larger-than-normal Bowser. The Meat-Bowser is the only time that it is a true power-up.{{User|Marioguy1}}


Well if we got rid of this article we woild have to delete quite a few  good quality images. The Bowser article is big enough anyway.--[[File:Yoshi4.jpeg|35px]][[User:Yoshidude99|Yoshidude99]]  05:34, 27 March 2011 (EDT)
Well if we got rid of this article we woild have to delete quite a few  good quality images. The Bowser article is big enough anyway.--[[File:Yoshi - Mario Party 10.png|35px]][[User:Yoshidude99|Yoshidude99]]  05:34, 27 March 2011 (EDT)
:No, the images would go into [[Gallery:Bowser]]. Also, merging this page would only increase the Bowser article's length by a few sentences, and if you think about it, removing this page would actually ''decrease'' the total amount of space we're dedicating to Bowser around the wiki. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 10:35, 30 March 2011 (EDT)
:No, the images would go into [[Gallery:Bowser]]. Also, merging this page would only increase the Bowser article's length by a few sentences, and if you think about it, removing this page would actually ''decrease'' the total amount of space we're dedicating to Bowser around the wiki. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 10:35, 30 March 2011 (EDT)


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== Change this article's name and coverage or delete ==
== Change this article's name and coverage or delete ==
{{TPP}}
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|5-3-7-0|only ''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story'', ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'', and ''New Super Mario Bros. 2''}}
This article was created under the assumption that Giant Bowser was officially named as such in the ''Mario & Luigi'' games. "Assumption" is a word which here means "I said Giant Bowser was the name and everyone took my word for it". I'm sorry to say that "delusion" would be a better word, as it is a word that means "I was completely wrong in saying that I knew the official name and I lead everyone to vote for a conjecturally named article with a weird amount of information."
This article was created under the assumption that Giant Bowser was officially named as such in the ''Mario & Luigi'' games. "Assumption" is a word which here means "I said Giant Bowser was the name and everyone took my word for it". I'm sorry to say that "delusion" would be a better word, as it is a word that means "I was completely wrong in saying that I knew the official name and I lead everyone to vote for a conjecturally named article with a weird amount of information."


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'''Proposer''': {{User|Ultimate Mr. L}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Ultimate Mr. L}}<br>
'''Deadline''': May 8, 2018, 23:59 GMT
'''Deadline''': <s>May 8, 2018, 23:59 GMT</s> <s>Extended to May 15, 2018, 23:59 GMT</s> Extended to May 22, 2018, 23:59 GMT


===All games===
===All games===
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#{{User|YoshiFlutterJump}} As long as the DT bestiary is fixed after this, and that Giant Bowser X article is merged with Bowser X, I’m in.  Per proposal.
#{{User|YoshiFlutterJump}} As long as the DT bestiary is fixed after this, and that Giant Bowser X article is merged with Bowser X, I’m in.  Per proposal.
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} It's a heavily-recurring form at this point and abridging it to oddly-specific instances just seems silly. Besides, the YI bosses are regarded as generic enlarged enemies in Japan, yet get their own articles nonetheless, why should this be any different?
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} It's a heavily-recurring form at this point and abridging it to oddly-specific instances just seems silly. Besides, the YI bosses are regarded as generic enlarged enemies in Japan, yet get their own articles nonetheless, why should this be any different?
#{{User|YoshiEgg1990}} Per Ultimate Mr L.
#{{User|Sonic98}} Per Ultimate Mr L
#{{User|Camwood777}} - No growing, no go. Simple as that.


===Only NSMB Wii and 2===
===Only NSMB Wii and 2===
#{{User|Alex95}} - The name Super Bowser only seems to be used in the ''NSMB'' guides, so it doesn't make much sense to me to list every instance of size change under this title when it's only in reference to a few games.
#{{User|Alex95}} - The name Super Bowser only seems to be used in the ''NSMB'' guides, so it doesn't make much sense to me to list every instance of size change under this title when it's only in reference to a few games.
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} I don't like the idea of covering all games mentioned. I would be satisfied if it was all instances of Giant Bowsers that are indeed different from the normal Bowser. However, per Alex95. I also would ideally like SMM to be covered too, but on a different article (Big Bowser) due to him not being the same size as Giant Bowser/Super Bowser, but still bigger than normal size. However, he is very similar to the regular Bowser.
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} I don't like the idea of covering all games mentioned. I would be satisfied if it was all instances of Giant Bowsers that are indeed different from the normal Bowser. However, per Alex95. I also would ideally like SMM to be covered too, but on a different article (Big Bowser) due to him not being the same size as Giant Bowser/Super Bowser, but still bigger than normal size. However, he is very similar to the regular Bowser.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Super Bowser is a very specific name used only in these two instances, whereas a Giant Bowser article has more general applicability and should be self-explanatory.


===Only NSMB Wii and 2 and BIS===
===Only NSMB Wii and 2 and BIS===
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#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per Alex95.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per Alex95.
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Same as above. And still per Alex95.
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Same as above. And still per Alex95.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per Alex95.
#{{User|YoshiEgg1990}} Still per Alex95.
# {{User|John Denver Fan}} Per All.


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::::::::Wait, it was explicitly called Giant Bowser in SSB? If so, yes that should certainly be the article name, if in-game names take priority. But that's only if we decide to cover SSB, which I'm skeptical of.
::::::::Wait, it was explicitly called Giant Bowser in SSB? If so, yes that should certainly be the article name, if in-game names take priority. But that's only if we decide to cover SSB, which I'm skeptical of.
::::::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 11:09, 28 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 11:09, 28 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::Yes, the structure is "VS. ((nothing)/Team/Giant/Metal) (character name)." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:44, 28 April 2018 (EDT)
'''@Alex95''' You're saying we would keep the BIS info on this page, but we delete the DT info, correct?<br>
'''@Alex95''' You're saying we would keep the BIS info on this page, but we delete the DT info, correct?<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:40, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:40, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
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::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 19:47, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 19:47, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::....as in succeed? And no, there isn't any even remotely envenomed arguing going on here, so I wouldn't call it that. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:59, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::....as in succeed? And no, there isn't any even remotely envenomed arguing going on here, so I wouldn't call it that. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:59, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
This won't matter if Option 1 wins, but if an option involving moving the page to Super Bowser wins, I would like [[Talk:Mario Kart Wii#Recent change in terminology|this discussion]] be taken into account. To take that discussion's points, Giant Bowser should at least still receive a mention if Super Bowser is used because that's a name generally known by the Mario fandom (I think) and audience should really be one of our main concerns because we are writing this for fans. But we'll see where that discussion goes.<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 22:11, 5 May 2018 (EDT)
Since of course this is ending before E3, which means that most likely there won't be any new information about BIS remake until then. Which, this is included in that (In the direct where it was announced, he is called beefed up). So, either we need to get the second option more votes or just wait for it to tie. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 17:45, 19 May 2018 (EDT)
:I don't think I understand.
:{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:33, 19 May 2018 (EDT)
::1. I am saying to those who are supporting to the third option. 2. I am saying the two options if no one else votes in option 3. Otherwise, most likely we will have more info by the time this gets proposed again. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 16:10, 20 May 2018 (EDT)
:::Are you saying that Option 3 will not work if he is officially named in BIS+BJJ?
:::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 17:31, 20 May 2018 (EDT)
::::No. If he is not. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 22:41, 20 May 2018 (EDT)
:::::Well, I'm confused.
:::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 10:46, 21 May 2018 (EDT)
::::::Huh? Well, basically, new information won't come until after the deadline, but probably before it is proposed again. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 13:54, 21 May 2018 (EDT)
Okay, so we have 13 voters. Half of 13 is 6.5 and Option 3 has 7. Can an option win by 0.5 votes?<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 23:39, 22 May 2018 (EDT)
:Yes, and it has been counted as that. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 09:26, 23 May 2018 (EDT)
==''Bowser's Fury''==
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