Talk:Giant Bowser: Difference between revisions

Is this article's title conjectural? I know the SSBM deal makes it at least part conjecture... {{user:yellowYoshi398/sig}}

If it's a conjectural form, then it should be merged. {{User:Plumber/Pignature}} 15:16, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

I'd say merge. But then again, we do have [[Giant Baby Bowser]].{{User:SpikeKnifeNeedleSword/sig}} 17:20, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

I am Zero! '''GUYS THIS IS ''GIANT'' BOWSER, NOT ''GIGA'' BOWSER!!!!''' Zero signing out. {{User|Zero777}}

:Zero777: We are just calling it Giga Bowser because we are used to the name and please don't shout at us like that. Also he kinda is related to Giga Bowser. It is probably a nickname. {{User|Kaptain K. Rool}}

:::I think it should be deleted, it just represents a larger-than-normal Bowser. The Meat-Bowser is the only time that it is a true power-up.{{User|Marioguy1}}

:No, the images would go into [[Gallery:Bowser]]. Also, merging this page would only increase the Bowser article's length by a few sentences, and if you think about it, removing this page would actually ''decrease'' the total amount of space we're dedicating to Bowser around the wiki. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 10:35, 30 March 2011 (EDT)

== Change this article's name and coverage or delete ==

This article was created under the assumption that Giant Bowser was officially named as such in the ''Mario & Luigi'' games. "Assumption" is a word which here means "I said Giant Bowser was the name and everyone took my word for it". I'm sorry to say that "delusion" would be a better word, as it is a word that means "I was completely wrong in saying that I knew the official name and I lead everyone to vote for a conjecturally named article with a weird amount of information."

*''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]''

*''[[Mario Party 5]]''

*''[[Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]]''

*''[[Mario & Luigi: Dream Team]]''

'''Cover only NSMBW and 2:''' One of the grounds on which this article was previously deleted is that the way Bowser grows is inconsistent (for example, in ''BIS'', he grows when the Bros. power him up form the inside, while in ''DT'', he eats a bunch of meat). Therefore, the proposal says, each growth could be seen as a totally separate form. If that is the case, it could be argued that we should only recognize the size changes that have official names (those two ''NSMB'' games) as separate forms. We may also cover any other size changes brought on magic, (e.g., NSMBU) since that's how the officially named forms come about. Voters of this option may present their opinions on NSMBU.<br>

'''Cover only NSMBW, NSMB2, and BIS:''' Same as the previous option, but with ''BIS'' added, to stay consistent with the fact that [[Giant Luigi]] has an article.<br>

'''Delete the page and forget this ever happened:''' The quick-and-clean way. Just put the article out of its misery.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Ultimate Mr. L}}<br>

===All games===

#{{User|Ultimate Mr. L}} This option makes the most sense to me.

#{{User|YoshiFlutterJump}} As long as the DT bestiary is fixed after this, and that Giant Bowser X article is merged with Bowser X, I’m in.  Per proposal.

===Only NSMB Wii and 2===

#{{User|Alex95}} - The name Super Bowser only seems to be used in the ''NSMB'' guides, so it doesn't make much sense to me to list every instance of size change under this title when it's only in reference to a few games.

===Only NSMB Wii and 2 and BIS===

#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per Alex95.

#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per Alex95.

===Delete===

Regarding ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'', Bowser changes size due to the power-ups, akin to [[Super Mario (form)|Super Mario]]. There's no name given for the form in game, but maybe in a guide. ''Paper Mario: Sticker Star'' Bowser's size change is due to the [[Sticker Comet]] crown or something, so I say the information on him is fine where it is. ''Super Princess Peach''{{'}}s Giant Bowser is just simply named "Bowser 2", but I'm not sure what causes the change, as the Vibe Scepter doesn't seem capable of doing something like that. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:08, 24 April 2018 (EDT)

:@Ultimate Mr. L: ''Yoshi's Island DS'', ''Yoshi's New Island'', and maybe the original ''New Super Mario Bros.'' should be added to that list. On that note, Mega Baby Bowser should really have a separate article as well.

::In ''Super Mario Maker'', the "Big" enemies are all the original enemy plus Super Mushroom, but we still call a spade a spade. Why wouldn't the first option cover it if a size increase is the distinguishing feature? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:50, 25 April 2018 (EDT)

:::I suppose there's no real reason not to mention it. Should Option 1 also include SSB?

'''@Alex95''' You're saying we would keep the BIS info on this page, but we delete the DT info, correct?<br>

{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:40, 25 April 2018 (EDT)