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 == Regarding the above ==
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 The [https://archive.org/details/DonkeyKong64NintendoPowerOfficialStrategyGuide/page/n27 Player's Guide] refers to these simply as Klaptraps, with the generic, non-capitalized words "giant" or "purple" occasionally being used for the seemingly-large ones in the beehive (which are intended normal-sized with a Mini Monkey Tiny; there is a "giant" Zinger in the same beehive). Anyways, is there anyone who currently thinks these should stay split? Reminder that the source that referred to these as "Purple Klaptraps" as a proper noun was rife with errors, some of which defy the names the game itself and its instruction booklet give to things. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:09, March 11, 2019 (EDT)
 :I don't think it's really necessary to keep these split. The color + durability distinction can be likened to the gray Krushas from [[Platform Perils]], which are not split. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 22:06, April 6, 2019 (EDT)
-::I agree. I feel like several things brought up later in the comments weren't factored in much of the votes against it, and I actually considered doing a second proposal for that reason. If it still stays split, then we should reconsider if it should be treated as an enemy originally from ''Donkey Kong Country'' or a ''Donkey Kong 64'' enemy that happens to share its color a version-specific variant from the former game, given the two appearances show very different behavior. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:43, April 7, 2019 (EDT)
+::I agree. I feel like several things brought up later in the comments weren't factored in much of the votes against it, and I actually considered doing a second proposal for that reason. If it still stays split, then we should reconsider if it should be treated as an enemy originally from ''Donkey Kong Country'' or a ''Donkey Kong 64'' enemy that happens to share its color with a version-specific variant from the former game, given the two appearances show very different behavior. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:43, April 7, 2019 (EDT)
 :::Interesting scenario. I'm not sure how to proceed either. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:24, April 7, 2019 (EDT)
+::::Let's have some consensus first. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:48, April 19, 2019 (EDT)
+:::::I'd be in favor of a merge. {{User:Niiue/sig}} 05:22, April 19, 2019 (EDT)
+::::::After nearly two months and no comments, I think it's time for a proposal. A big problem with this article is it's lack of focus - it tries to cover both the ''DK64'' purple Klaptraps ''and'' the ''DKC'' ones, when the latter are a textbook example of the kind of thing that's comparable to red and green Troopas, and their coloration isn't even consistent between different versions of the game. This results in the utterly awkward mention of red Klaptraps in ''DK64'', even though this article is supposed to be about ''purple'' Klaptraps. Though I'd prefer an outright merge, this should at least be restricted to the ''DK64'' ones. If [[Red Spike Top]] is allowed to have a separate article, than the ''DK64'' purple Klaptraps can be separate from the ''DKC'' ones. That is, ''if'' we keep the article. So the options should be: merge outright, ''DK64'' only, or leave as-is. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 14:41, June 9, 2019 (EDT)
+== Merge with Klaptrap or remove non-''DK64'' information ==
+{{SettledTPP}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|passed|10-2-0|merge with klaptrap}}
+To sum up the above:
+*The [https://archive.org/details/DonkeyKong64NintendoPowerOfficialStrategyGuide/page/n27 Player's Guide] calls these "Klaptraps," only using "purple" as a generic adjective and not as part of its name.
+*The source that used "Purple Klaptrap" as a proper noun (the Prima guide) was mistake-ridden, even contradicting names from the game and the manual.
+*The durability difference is similar to that of the gray Krushas from ''DKC'', which do not have their own article.
+This article is also messy: since that failed proposal a year ago, people started including information about the purple Klaptraps from ''DKC''. Those are ''exactly'' the kind of thing that's comparable to red and green Troopas; their only notable attribute is that they jump. They're brown in the GBC version and red in the GBA version, so their coloring isn't even consistent. Also, just because of that color change, there is a completely irrelevant mention of red Klaptraps in ''DK64''.
+So, if we keep this article, we should make it specifically about the ''DK64'' enemy, though I'd prefer just merging it outright.
+'''Proposer''': {{User|7feetunder}}<br>
+'''Deadline''': September 21, 2019, 23:59 GMT
+====Merge with Klaptrap====
+#{{user|7feetunder}} Preferred option.
+#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} The only "official support" for keeping these split is a laughably-unreliable guide.
+#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per all.
+#{{User|Obsessive Mario Fan}} Per all.
+#{{User|Lord Grammaticus}} Per all.
+#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per everyone.
+#{{User|BBQ Turtle}} Per all.
+#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Second option. After thinking a while about it, i think it should not be kept on its own article.
+#{{User|EDShoot}} Per all.
+#{{User|MarioManiac1981}} After reading its article, I can see why Purple Klaptrap needs to be merged. Per all.
+====Remove non-''DK64'' information====
+#{{user|7feetunder}} Second choice.
+#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Best option. I don't think the other ones are the same.
+====Do nothing====
+====Comments====
+Removed the source where it's just "purple Klaptrap". --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 01:19, September 11, 2019 (EDT)