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:::::::::I just think lists without descriptions look a bit ugly in the middle of articles which otherwise have sections filled with descriptions. I can see your slippery slope argument, and I do think we have to be careful about adding things to the infobox. In your ''Should we list how many...'' sentences, I'm a bit unclear if you think non-noteworthy things will get shoehorned into the infobox to avoid the scrutiny of an article section, or if you're worried about nuanced things being simplified in the infobox. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 18:49, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::I just think lists without descriptions look a bit ugly in the middle of articles which otherwise have sections filled with descriptions. I can see your slippery slope argument, and I do think we have to be careful about adding things to the infobox. In your ''Should we list how many...'' sentences, I'm a bit unclear if you think non-noteworthy things will get shoehorned into the infobox to avoid the scrutiny of an article section, or if you're worried about nuanced things being simplified in the infobox. [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 18:49, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::::::My point is, we don't want the infobox to cover absolutely everything; that's what the article itself is for. And large lists look ''far'' uglier in the infobox than they do on the page itself, because infoboxes are intended to be shorter than the article, regardless of collapsability. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:52, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::::::My point is, we don't want the infobox to cover absolutely everything; that's what the article itself is for. And large lists look ''far'' uglier in the infobox than they do on the page itself, because infoboxes are intended to be shorter than the article, regardless of collapsability. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:52, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::::The reason why it looks ugly in the article to me is all the whitespace to the right when browsing articles on desktop. I think infoboxes are meant to provide quick access to basic information about an article, and enemies are basic information about a level that also usually isn't ambiguous (like coin counting) or trivial (like the number of background elements). [[User:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:red;">--The</span>]] [[User talk:The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:green;">Retro</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Retro Gamer|<span style="color:blue;">Gamer</span>]] 19:04, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::::I want to point out that they are covered in the level layouts if they are really relevant to the layout. Just, not in a list form. The enemy section helps us to know which enemies appear without searching for them in the layout. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 18:36, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::::I want to point out that they are covered in the level layouts if they are really relevant to the layout. Just, not in a list form. The enemy section helps us to know which enemies appear without searching for them in the layout. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 18:36, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::Which is why we have them listed in reasonably-sized text under a header that ''isn't'' in the infobox, where the text is small, and easily-missable if it's collapsed. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:49, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::Which is why we have them listed in reasonably-sized text under a header that ''isn't'' in the infobox, where the text is small, and easily-missable if it's collapsed. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:49, 30 April 2018 (EDT)