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===Plumber===
===Plumber===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">WARNING OVERTURNED</span>
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">WARNING OVERTURNED</span>
<br><small>No sockpuppeting, no warning.</small>
*[[User_talk:Plumber/Archive_1#End_of_the_Line|End of the Line]]
*[[User_talk:Plumber/Archive_1#End_of_the_Line|End of the Line]]


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===Superfiremario===
===Superfiremario===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">REMINDER STANDS</span>
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">REMINDER STANDS</span>
<br><small>Editing userspace too much ''is'' breaking the rules, and if the initial [[Template:userspace|Userspace reminder template]] isn't followed, harsher warnings can be used, and punishment can even be doled out if that doesn't work either. It's not invalid, so it stays.</small>
*[[User talk:Superfiremario/Archive 4#Reminder|This.]]
*[[User talk:Superfiremario/Archive 4#Reminder|This.]]


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===Goomba's Shoe15===
===Goomba's Shoe15===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">WARNING OVERTURNED</span>
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">WARNING OVERTURNED</span>
<br><small>Checking contributions and undoing bad edits is not stalking, it's looking out for the wiki, which is a good thing.</small>
*[http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Goomba%27s_Shoe15&oldid=1043400#Stop_stalking_me this]
*[http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Goomba%27s_Shoe15&oldid=1043400#Stop_stalking_me this]
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===Goomba's Shoe15===
===Goomba's Shoe15===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">REMINDER OVERTURNED</span>
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">REMINDER OVERTURNED</span>
<br><small>Removing speculation is following policy: it's following the rules, not breaking them.</small>
*[[User talk:Goomba's Shoe15#Speculation|this]]
*[[User talk:Goomba's Shoe15#Speculation|this]]
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===DKPetey99===
===DKPetey99===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">WARNING STANDS</span>
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">WARNING STANDS</span>
<br><small>Ignorance is no excuse, and besides, you shouldn't outright revert an edit like that without taking it to the talk page, regardless of who made the edit.</small>
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===Reversinator===
===Reversinator===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">WARNING OVERTURNED</span>
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">WARNING OVERTURNED</span>
<br><small>Calling a proposal "stupid" isn't very polite, but it's not flaming the proposer either. Also, this case isn't actually the same as the Warning Tucayo gave Reversinator because that was for his behaviour in general, whereas this is one isolated incident, which doesn't warrant a Warning in an of itself.</small>
*[http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Reversinator&action=edit&section=50 Here.]
*[http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Reversinator&action=edit&section=50 Here.]
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Revision as of 12:14, August 24, 2011


All completed appeals are archived here. The scroll box can be used to view comments. This page is protected to maintain the discussion as was. Please add archived appeals to the bottom of the page.


Plumber

WARNING OVERTURNED
No sockpuppeting, no warning.

Plumber

  • Because I'm not Beanbean. I did accidentally vandalize things when I first joined because I didn't know the difference between save and preview, but I didn't deserve that last one.
However, I would not like it removed from my archives, I just want to record to stand that Paper Jorge was in fact in the wrong when he said that Beanbean was my sockpuppet. This will probably be ignored since Paper Jorge was a Sysop (Administrator was not a widely used term around then) at the time, but he isn't anymore.

Paper Jorge

  • [NO COMMENT]

Superfiremario

REMINDER STANDS
Editing userspace too much is breaking the rules, and if the initial Userspace reminder template isn't followed, harsher warnings can be used, and punishment can even be doled out if that doesn't work either. It's not invalid, so it stays.

Superfiremario

  • This should get removed because it is invalid and it's a usersapce warning which means they are invalid. Please remove it.

Goomba's Shoe15

  • Alright if it is invalid than i'll remove it nobody mentioned to me that you couldnt give out userspace warnings and i still see people get them but if it is invalid i'll remove it

Reversinator

WARNING STANDS
Edofenrir (talk) made it pretty clear why you received your warning here and the Admin Board stands behind him.

Reversinator

  • Similar to Plumber's ordeal, I'm trying to overturn a warning given by a former sysyop, Tucayo. Anyways, Tucayo added the "U R Mr Gay" thing to Super Mario Galaxy, and I reverted it, calling the entire thing stupid. I believed (and still do) that this was just an unfortunate mistake on Nintendo's part. Tucayo, thinking that calling an edit stupid equals calling the person that made the edit stupid, gave me a warning. While I was told that the sysops discussed it on a private chat room or something similar, I am appealing this because Tucayo's reasoning is, well, not that good, at least in my opinion. I never meant to insult him, I just meant that the urmrgay thing was stupid. If I had meant to insult him (which would be stupid), I'd keep my warning. But I just meant to call out the ridiculousness of this, so I think that my warning wasn't fair.

Tucayo

  • Amazing. Now the users can dispute the authority of the sysops. What has the SMW fallen into? I honestly couldn't care less about if you remove it or not. Now don't bother me with things as trivial as this.
*sigh* I honestly don't know why I take some of my precious time to answer something I had already answered many times in the past. The warning was not just because of that edit/summary/whatever, it was an accumulation of faults you had committed and regarding your overall attitude which is(was?) pretty annoying and disturbing of the social order and peace of the Super Mario Wiki. And yes, I am upset. I had talked this to you and to the admins, and you still keep bugging about it. C'mon, remove it and be happy! You have my permission! Go ahead! Now!

Goomba's Shoe15

WARNING OVERTURNED
Checking contributions and undoing bad edits is not stalking, it's looking out for the wiki, which is a good thing.

Goomba's Shoe15

  • I was given a last warning from Yoshiyoshiyoshi for stalking him and BooDestroyer well heres the thing this stalking was undoing edits that i felt were wrong and that BooDestroyer the user who made the comment didn't issue the warning instead Yoshiyoshiyoshi inserted it after i commented on this and reminded him to sign his comment i want it removed because i am not stalking them and i am not trying to bother any body and i already got a last warning for harassing Yoshiyoshiyoshi here so i stopped i don't think this warning is justifiable cause im not stalking anybody and im tired of people accusing me of stalking them because i issue a warning or because i undo an edit. Also here are the only interactions ive had with BooDestroyer over the course of the whole month [1], [2],[3] and because of those two things i'm being accused of stalking a user thats crap i'm not stalking any one. Also it is true i harassed Yoshiyoshiyoshi harassed once this but that resulted in this. And i would like to point out that i only undo edits that are nonconstructive which isnt a bad thing let alone harassment it's a normal thing and i know a lot of users do it including most admins, and i don't think it's right that just because i disagree with some one or undo one of their edits that they can say im stalking them or harassing them when in fact i'm doing things normal users do and i don't feel that any of the 3 things ive done that have involved BooDestroyer constitute harassment let alone stalking

Yoshiyoshiyoshi

  • Goomba's Shoe15 continually argues with me when I tell him to stop.When I say "stalking",I mean watching every edit I make,and if he doesnt like it,he reverts it.After he was given a first Last Warning,I saw another user said goomba was doing the same thing to him/her,so i gave him another warning and told him to stop.

Goomba's Shoe15

REMINDER OVERTURNED
Removing speculation is following policy: it's following the rules, not breaking them.

Goomba's Shoe15

  • I was given that for undoing this edit [[4]] based on my opinion that it is speculation since there is no official source to back up his claim so i'm a little confused as to why he issued this reminder

Plumber690

  • [NO COMMENT]

DKPetey99

WARNING STANDS
Ignorance is no excuse, and besides, you shouldn't outright revert an edit like that without taking it to the talk page, regardless of who made the edit.

DKPetey99

  • I was given this warning for undoing this edit. I am opposing this warning for two reasons:
  1. I was new to the wiki and I thought it would be better to add pictures to the characters with no pictures.
  2. I did not know that MeritC was a sysop, again, I was new. I mean, it looks pretty informal to be missing 11 pictures and placing them with Not Pictured.

I know the warning was issued January 15, and I joined December 11, but remember, I was blocked for 7 days. At the least, I'd rather have this become a reminder, because I was new to the wiki, again not knowing MeritC was a sysop. I was also unaware that undoing a sysop's edit is illegal.

Rise Up Above It

  • [NO COMMENT]

Reversinator

WARNING OVERTURNED
Calling a proposal "stupid" isn't very polite, but it's not flaming the proposer either. Also, this case isn't actually the same as the Warning Tucayo gave Reversinator because that was for his behaviour in general, whereas this is one isolated incident, which doesn't warrant a Warning in an of itself.

Reversinator

  • Look, I was being blunt. Being blunt means being direct. Calling the proposal stupid and useless did not mean I was calling DKPetey an idiot, I was saying what was true. The proposal passed already, there was no need to create a second proposal. Yes, Petey didn't know about my proposal, but I informed him. Why should I get an warning for insulting him if I didn't even insult him?
  • I think Walkazo explains it better than me.

Goomba's Shoe15

  • My warning is based on the same principle as the warning Tucayo gave you. Which was for calling an edit he made stupid and i gave you a warning for calling a proposal someone made stupid.