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| :I don't know what you mean by "edit it back", but I corrected the information for you. Be sure to go over the templates during your next uploads so the correct information is filled in. | | :I don't know what you mean by "edit it back", but I corrected the information for you. Be sure to go over the templates during your next uploads so the correct information is filled in. |
| :Also, I'll take this time to tell you that italics are meant for titles of games/publications/etc. only and not for character or location names. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:52, 5 October 2017 (EDT) | | :Also, I'll take this time to tell you that italics are meant for titles of games/publications/etc. only and not for character or location names. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:52, 5 October 2017 (EDT) |
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| Hello, make sure you're [[Special:Diff/3071497|using square brackets]] when adding an image category link, not curly brackets. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:15, November 21, 2020 (EST)
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| :They are. They’re just the regular (Green and Blue, spotted) Mushroom Hill things seen in the other games (unfortunately. An actual Paper Mario reference would’ve been cool). --[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 07:57, August 3, 2020 (EDT) | | :They are. They’re just the regular (Green and Blue, spotted) Mushroom Hill things seen in the other games (unfortunately. An actual Paper Mario reference would’ve been cool). --[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 07:57, August 3, 2020 (EDT) |
| ::I see what you mean now. Perhaps a “Hill” page is in order? --[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 08:02, August 3, 2020 (EDT) | | ::I see what you mean now. Perhaps a “Hill” page is in order? --[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 08:02, August 3, 2020 (EDT) |
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| == Yoshis = Koopas? ==
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| I've seen your videos where you debunk MatPat's theories on the biology of Toads and Yoshis on YouTube. Given your denial on Yoshis being a species of Koopa in the latter video, how do you feel about [[Koopa (species)#Yoshi|the wiki now considering this as fact]]? [[User:ShootingStar7X|ShootingStar7X]] ([[User talk:ShootingStar7X|talk]]) 20:55, September 24, 2022 (EDT)
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| :Seems like a mistake to me. Definitely needs a rewrite, as Yoshi is not an actual Koopa and the sources provided either link to mentions of scrapped concepts, moments where he's been called a turtle or instances where his shell is referenced. It's also claimed his shell is natural when that most definitely isn't the case. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. --[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 04:52, September 25, 2022 (EDT)
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| ::No need for any changes—Doc von Schmeltwick and LinkTheLefty have [[User talk:Swallow#Yoshi Koopa|explained the specifics on Swallow's talk page]]. [[User:ShootingStar7X|ShootingStar7X]] ([[User talk:ShootingStar7X|talk]]) 14:09, October 21, 2022 (EDT)
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| :::By the logic used there, Conkdors are Koopas. Mario is also a Koopa while wearing a shell in the many games where he does just that. I'm not denying that Yoshi had some turtle inspiration, or saying that he wasn't considered a Koopa badk when the concept of a rideable character was first drawn up during development of Super Mario Bros., but no content within the games indicates that Yoshi is a Koopa in any capacity. A distant Koopa relative, perhaps, but nothing more. --[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 17:27, October 21, 2022 (EDT)
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| ::::Sorry for the late reply, but looks like you were on the right train of though—the wiki now considers Yoshis to be related to Koopas and not a species of them. [[User:ShootingStar7X|ShootingStar7X]] ([[User talk:ShootingStar7X|talk]]) 08:46, October 27, 2022 (EDT)
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| :::::That is, of course, pending possible further talk page discussion. Note that I also disagree with arguing with lead designers. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:24, October 29, 2022 (EDT)
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| References and bibliographies are always placed at the end of an article (so under "External links"), and when adding new headers, any words that aren't proper nouns or the first word of the header should not be capitalised (so "Links" should be lowercase). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 12:16, April 27, 2023 (EDT)
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| :In that case dozens of pages have them in the wrong order. --[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 13:58, April 27, 2023 (EDT)
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| I know it's a major point of contention, but it's an objective fact that Japanese bios consistently list traits and appearances of what we call "Kamek" and "Magikoopa" interchangeably with no distinction whatsoever, so there's no real question on that front. I'll leave the SMRPG section as you had it for now, though, since that is more ambiguous. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:50, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
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| :It is an objective fact that the same thing happens in the bios of other characters like Yoshi and Toad. That does not change the fact that all three of these characters are still considered distinct individuals within their species, regardless of region. "Kamek" the character has a specific role that does not apply to all "Kameks". --[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 14:17, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
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| ::In Japanese, more often than not ''none'' of those three are. Semantics and translation are weird like that. It's kind of like how Koopa Kid in old Mario Party games is a singular character except when he isn't (and I'm not talking about "split into colors" version, I'm talking about "all colored like Bowser" versions). Anyways, I think we've got it whittled down to a good compromise at this point. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:19, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
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| :::Yet all three remain objectively as individual characters, which is the point. --[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 19:58, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
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| ::::Not consistently though. The "individual character names" have been used in reference to clearly different individuals; most notably is the blue colored "Toad" in SM3DW, while ''every'' color of Yoshi is treated as "Yoshi, the character!" by ''Yoshi's Story''{{'}}s manual, despite there being eight at once and all just hatching for that story; also, MKT's yellow-colored "Yoshi (kangaroo)" being treated as "Yoshi" and not "Yellow Yoshi." And those aren't the only examples, just the most blatant. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:29, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
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| :::::It is consistent. The Toad in ''Super Mario 3D World'' is "Toad", the green Yoshi in ''Yoshi’s Story'' is "Yoshi" the character. You just seem to have this penchant for homogenisation of characters that simply does not exist. --[[User:Seandwalsh|Seandwalsh]] ([[User talk:Seandwalsh|talk]]) 06:13, July 17, 2023 (EDT)
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| ::::::All Yoshis in Yoshi's Story are "Yoshi" the character. I'm just saying what the enclosed manual says. Are you saying the manual "does not exist?" Also, NSMBUDX did the same with calling the previous Blue Toad and Yellow Toad just "Toad," to the point they share a character slot. Does that "not exist" either? Nintendo has also repeatedly said that any given singular generic Yoshi is "Yoshi" the character, even if there are more around (in which case they are ''also'' "Yoshi" the character). Do Nintendo "not exist?" It seems to me more like you're simply ignoring evidence that does not fit your viewpoint. Anyways, I'm tired of this conversation. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 07:34, July 17, 2023 (EDT)
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