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I am in full support of doing this, however I think it's better off that the template stated that the article is incomplete rather than under construction. My reasoning for this is that 1. the work could of been abandoned so it's technically not under construction  2. it's easier for the reader to understand and says a lot more about the state of article as it's simpler. Any thoughts on that? {{user|NSY}}
I am in full support of doing this, however I think it's better off that the template stated that the article is incomplete rather than under construction. My reasoning for this is that 1. the work could of been abandoned so it's technically not under construction  2. it's easier for the reader to understand and says a lot more about the state of article as it's simpler. Any thoughts on that? {{user|NSY}}


I strongly agree with {{User|Walkazo}} and {{User|Gabumon}}. Hypothetically, what happens if we implement a new policy that changes ''many'' articles? Are we going to slap {{tem|Construction}} on ''all'' of them until the edits are made? If the pages present accurate information well enough until the changes are made, then the template only serves to threaten how the reader perceives the wiki as a credible resource (as Walkazo said, the wiki would be unnecessarily "shooting [itself] in the foot"). We could also consider what Gabumon pointed out: that the same "broad" and "vague" nature of the template that the opposition cherishes also allows for the template to be used on practically all 16,000+ articles, and somebody could choose to do that right now with the only consequence being that our website will look awful. Additionally, some have also cited the Courtesy Policy as a justification for the current usage of the template; however, the template was made years before the policy existed and was originally intended for exclusive use in project pages (i.e. ''MarioWiki:'' and ''Help:''). It can be argued that its role in preventing editing projects being "stolen" is archaic – perhaps even invented – and that there are better ways to establish such efforts. For example, one could post a [[mb:forums/57|collaboration]] on the forum that would allow them to take charge of revamping an article while having additional input before any huge changes are made. That all being said, it is clear that there are inherent issues with this template that need to be addressed. {{User|Henry Tucayo Clay}} has proposed a sensible solution that isn't too restrictive and will simply reserve it for pages that have glaring, unprofessional issues that need to be resolved. {{User:Super Mario Bros./sig}} 17:17, 3 January 2016 (EST)
I strongly agree with {{User|Walkazo}} and {{User|Gabumon}}. Hypothetically, what happens if we implement a new policy that changes ''many'' articles? Are we going to slap {{tem|Construction}} on ''all'' of them until the edits are made? If the pages present accurate information well enough until the changes are made, then the template only serves to threaten how the reader perceives the wiki as a credible resource (as Walkazo said, the wiki would be unnecessarily "shooting [itself] in the foot"). We could also consider what Gabumon pointed out: that the same "broad" and "vague" nature of the template that the opposition cherishes also allows for the template to be used on practically all 16,000+ articles, and somebody could choose to do that right now with the only consequence being that our website will look awful. Additionally, some have also cited the Courtesy Policy as a justification for the current usage of the template; however, the template was made years before the policy existed and was originally intended for exclusive use in project pages (i.e. ''MarioWiki:'' and ''Help:''). It can be argued that its role in preventing editing projects being "stolen" is archaic – perhaps even invented – and that there are better ways to establish such efforts. For example, one could post a [[Forumboard:57.0|collaboration]] on the forum that would allow them to take charge of revamping an article while having additional input before any huge changes are made. That all being said, it is clear that there are inherent issues with this template that need to be addressed. {{User|Henry Tucayo Clay}} has proposed a sensible solution that isn't too restrictive and will simply reserve it for pages that have glaring, unprofessional issues that need to be resolved. {{User:Super Mario Bros./sig}} 17:17, 3 January 2016 (EST)


Given the relatively low usage this template sees mixed with the relatively high number of issues we've had just maintaining it (this is the fourth effing proposal for one damn template), I'd be much more in favor of either modifying the use range of other, similar templates or turning this one into a general, temporary "this article is new, don't ask for deletion just yet" stopgap that it was initially intended to be. -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 20:26, 8 January 2016 (EST)
Given the relatively low usage this template sees mixed with the relatively high number of issues we've had just maintaining it (this is the fourth effing proposal for one damn template), I'd be much more in favor of either modifying the use range of other, similar templates or turning this one into a general, temporary "this article is new, don't ask for deletion just yet" stopgap that it was initially intended to be. -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]][[Image:Shyghost.PNG]] 20:26, 8 January 2016 (EST)

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