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I don't think Toad Town is actually the confirmed location in Super Mario Galaxy, which is used in the infobox. I think an image of Toad Town in either Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Origami King or Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story would be a lot more accurate. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 16:49, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | I don't think Toad Town is actually the confirmed location in Super Mario Galaxy, which is used in the infobox. I think an image of Toad Town in either Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Origami King or Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story would be a lot more accurate. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 16:49, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | ||
:I'm going to remove the Galaxy and Galaxy 2 sections, because whoever wrote that was assuming. <s>The infobox image looks ulgy too.</s> {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 17:10, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | :I'm going to remove the Galaxy and Galaxy 2 sections, because whoever wrote that was assuming. <s>The infobox image looks ulgy too.</s> {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 17:10, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | ||
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Following some responses from the discussion I started above, it seems like all mentions of Toad Town in these games are better off removed. There do not seem to be any official references that the areas in these games are labeled as Toad Town, and the area in the first game is labeled as "Castle Gardens" (which even has [[Castle Gardens|its own article]]) in the pause menu. The article itself even speculates it being Toad Town. | Following some responses from the discussion I started above, it seems like all mentions of Toad Town in these games are better off removed. There do not seem to be any official references that the areas in these games are labeled as Toad Town, and the area in the first game is labeled as "Castle Gardens" (which even has [[Castle Gardens|its own article]]) in the pause menu. The article itself even speculates it being Toad Town. | ||
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#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Per LTL in the comments, the closest thing to a "direct" name is "Peach Castle Town," itself resembling an alternate Toad Town JP name anyway. | #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Per LTL in the comments, the closest thing to a "direct" name is "Peach Castle Town," itself resembling an alternate Toad Town JP name anyway. | ||
#{{user|LinkTheLefty}} What I said below: it seems more prudent to merge Castle Gardens with Toad Town, but that'll be a separate discussion at this rate. | #{{user|LinkTheLefty}} What I said below: it seems more prudent to merge Castle Gardens with Toad Town, but that'll be a separate discussion at this rate. | ||
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:The real problem in all of this is assuming continuity between the ''Paper Mario'' and ''Mario & Luigi'' series and the ''Super Mario'' series when said continuity isn’t even in the ''Super Mario'' series to begin with. Was the ''Super Mario Odyssey'' Peach’s Castle a reference to ''Super Mario 64''? Sure, and yet its surroundings were very different. And both games and ''Mario Kart 64'' (and 8) lacked a town around them. Assuming that these Peach Castle Garden are Toad Town requires assuming some canonicity so that the town near Peach’s Castle is always Toad Town. Either we turn the Toad Town page into a much less useful page about what is around Peach’s Castle or we assume canonicity despite our policy and say that Castle Gardens are Toad Town because it is usually done so in the RPGs. Both these choices are suboptimal at best, in my opinion.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 16:54, August 27, 2020 (EDT) | :The real problem in all of this is assuming continuity between the ''Paper Mario'' and ''Mario & Luigi'' series and the ''Super Mario'' series when said continuity isn’t even in the ''Super Mario'' series to begin with. Was the ''Super Mario Odyssey'' Peach’s Castle a reference to ''Super Mario 64''? Sure, and yet its surroundings were very different. And both games and ''Mario Kart 64'' (and 8) lacked a town around them. Assuming that these Peach Castle Garden are Toad Town requires assuming some canonicity so that the town near Peach’s Castle is always Toad Town. Either we turn the Toad Town page into a much less useful page about what is around Peach’s Castle or we assume canonicity despite our policy and say that Castle Gardens are Toad Town because it is usually done so in the RPGs. Both these choices are suboptimal at best, in my opinion.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 16:54, August 27, 2020 (EDT) | ||
::At the same time, TOK uses a different JP name in-game than any previous ones. I think "using a concept so similar that having them separate is splitting hairs" and "assuming continuity" are two completely different things. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:24, August 27, 2020 (EDT) | ::At the same time, TOK uses a different JP name in-game than any previous ones. I think "using a concept so similar that having them separate is splitting hairs" and "assuming continuity" are two completely different things. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:24, August 27, 2020 (EDT) | ||