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==Merge with Pokey or Change the Name== | ==Merge with Pokey or Change the Name== | ||
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This pokey looks like and does most things like other [[Pokey]]s. I am proposing to merge this with Pokeys. The ability that it has can be addressed. | This pokey looks like and does most things like other [[Pokey]]s. I am proposing to merge this with Pokeys. The ability that it has can be addressed. | ||
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Yoshi the Space Station Manager}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|Yoshi the Space Station Manager}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': | '''Deadline''': August 25, 2016, 23:59 (GMT) | ||
===Merge=== | ===Merge=== | ||
#{{User|Yoshi the Space Station Manager}} Per merge proposal. | #{{User|Yoshi the Space Station Manager}} Per merge proposal. | ||
#{{User|Wildgoosespeeder}} Per all. | #{{User|Wildgoosespeeder}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|AfternoonLight}} Merge it! If the [[Double Dash]] was merged with the [[Rocket Start]], then this one should do it as well! Per all! | |||
#{{User|NSY}} Per wiki policies | #{{User|NSY}} Per wiki policies | ||
#{{User|Niiue}} Per all. | #{{User|Niiue}} Per all. | ||
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#{{User|Fawful's Minion}} This guy shouldn't be merged. It should get the same treatment as [[Mini Shy Guy]], [[Mini Snifit]], [[Mini Bob-omb]], and [[Bomb Fish]]. And this article should be renamed to Mini Pokey. | #{{User|Fawful's Minion}} This guy shouldn't be merged. It should get the same treatment as [[Mini Shy Guy]], [[Mini Snifit]], [[Mini Bob-omb]], and [[Bomb Fish]]. And this article should be renamed to Mini Pokey. | ||
#{{User|BabyLuigi64}} The Pokeys seen in the ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'' games are toy enemies; They have a wind-up key (this is true for ''Minis March Again!'' as well as its other appearances). As stated above, it has appeared in other games since ''Minis March Again!'', so the article should have its name changed. | #{{User|BabyLuigi64}} The Pokeys seen in the ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'' games are toy enemies; They have a wind-up key (this is true for ''Minis March Again!'' as well as its other appearances). As stated above, it has appeared in other games since ''Minis March Again!'', so the article should have its name changed. | ||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
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@Fawful's Minion: This isn't about your vote, but part of it. The name you suggested (Mini Pokey) falls under conjectural. There is an official name (which is Pokey in Minis March Again) so there is no need to have this article named Mini Pokey unless it is an official name in a different game. Also, if there ever comes a time where mini pokey is a form (kind of like [[Mini Mario (form)]]) then the article would have to be moved again if it was named Mini Pokey without being conjectural. Please take note of this and see whether or not you want to change your vote on the name. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 01:04, 23 August 2016 (EDT) | @Fawful's Minion: This isn't about your vote, but part of it. The name you suggested (Mini Pokey) falls under conjectural. There is an official name (which is Pokey in Minis March Again) so there is no need to have this article named Mini Pokey unless it is an official name in a different game. Also, if there ever comes a time where mini pokey is a form (kind of like [[Mini Mario (form)]]) then the article would have to be moved again if it was named Mini Pokey without being conjectural. Please take note of this and see whether or not you want to change your vote on the name. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 01:04, 23 August 2016 (EDT) | ||
@YoshiKong They rely on a wind-up key in the later game, Tipping Stars, as shown by the key on its back, however I'm not sure about how they look in Minis March Again. The article should at least be changed to {{ | @YoshiKong They rely on a wind-up key in the later game, Tipping Stars, as shown by the key on its back, however I'm not sure about how they look in Minis March Again. The article should at least be changed to {{Fakelink|Pokey (Mario & Donkey Kong series)}} or something along those lines, as the Pokeys in at least one game have been shown to be different, with the Minis March Again part possibly merged. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 05:05, 23 August 2016 (EDT) | ||
:@Ninelevendo on the subject of ''Minis March Again'': They have a wind up key in this game too. It only appears half of the time approximately. This is why you don't see it in the screenshot. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 09:02, 23 August 2016 (EDT) | :@Ninelevendo on the subject of ''Minis March Again'': They have a wind up key in this game too. It only appears half of the time approximately. This is why you don't see it in the screenshot. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 09:02, 23 August 2016 (EDT) | ||
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I was the user who renamed this article from the conjectural "[[Mini Pokey]]" using the in-game ''Minis March Again!'' help menu and the ''Tipping Stars'' Construction Zone object label. I similarly renamed "[[Mini Spiky Snifit]]" from ''Minis March Again'', leaving alone the plain "[[Mini Snifit]]" from ''March of the Minis'' and ''Mini-Land Mayhem!'' (as I never got around to checking that particular title or the more recent ''Mini Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge''). On the subject of the ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'' series, it would probably be more accurate to respectively have [[Mini Shy Guy]] and [[Mini Fly Guy]] as “Shy Guy (''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'')” and “Fly Guy (''Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move'')” per [[MarioWiki:Naming|naming policy]], as these appear to be used practically everywhere else outside of the one ''Minis on the Move'' Toy Collection screen instance, which only lists them as “[Color] Mini Shy/Fly Guy” individually; that, and “[[Mini Bob-omb]]” most likely being unofficial, leads me to be suspicious of the [[Mini Ninji|other]] [[Mini Crab|'Mini']] [[Mini Spear Guy|enemies]] ([http://www.hit-japan.com/book10/P1710539.JPG as well as all the English names for all the first game's enemies unlisted in the manual] [http://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book10/P140808166.JPG for that matter]). As for this proposal, I'm wary of renaming with the toy identifier since it's not necessarily true and could be seen as presumptuous. While I feel merging would be the safer option of the two, I would also be okay with leaving the article alone since that might raise the question of whether the other 'Mini' enemies should be merged as well (although I feel more strongly about Mini Bob-omb than anything else, as in addition to actually sharing the same name it has no distinguishing characteristics from a regular Bob-omb whatsoever). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:36, 25 August 2016 (EDT) | I was the user who renamed this article from the conjectural "[[Mini Pokey]]" using the in-game ''Minis March Again!'' help menu and the ''Tipping Stars'' Construction Zone object label. I similarly renamed "[[Mini Spiky Snifit]]" from ''Minis March Again'', leaving alone the plain "[[Mini Snifit]]" from ''March of the Minis'' and ''Mini-Land Mayhem!'' (as I never got around to checking that particular title or the more recent ''Mini Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge''). On the subject of the ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'' series, it would probably be more accurate to respectively have [[Mini Shy Guy]] and [[Mini Fly Guy]] as “Shy Guy (''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'')” and “Fly Guy (''Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move'')” per [[MarioWiki:Naming|naming policy]], as these appear to be used practically everywhere else outside of the one ''Minis on the Move'' Toy Collection screen instance, which only lists them as “[Color] Mini Shy/Fly Guy” individually; that, and “[[Mini Bob-omb]]” most likely being unofficial, leads me to be suspicious of the [[Mini Ninji|other]] [[Mini Crab|'Mini']] [[Mini Spear Guy|enemies]] ([http://www.hit-japan.com/book10/P1710539.JPG as well as all the English names for all the first game's enemies unlisted in the manual] [http://hit930.sakura.ne.jp/hitjapan/book10/P140808166.JPG for that matter]). As for this proposal, I'm wary of renaming with the toy identifier since it's not necessarily true and could be seen as presumptuous. While I feel merging would be the safer option of the two, I would also be okay with leaving the article alone since that might raise the question of whether the other 'Mini' enemies should be merged as well (although I feel more strongly about Mini Bob-omb than anything else, as in addition to actually sharing the same name it has no distinguishing characteristics from a regular Bob-omb whatsoever). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:36, 25 August 2016 (EDT) | ||