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== Split Luigi's Mansion series crows (and [[frog]]s) == | == Split Luigi's Mansion series crows (and [[frog]]s) == | ||
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This proposal aims to split the crow enemy from Luigi's Mansion 2 and 3 into its own page, titled "{{Fake link|Crow (Luigi's Mansion series)}}". These crows are a recurring enemy with a unique Japanese <small>(and Chinese and Korean)</small> name. While these games are developed by Next Level Games, they appear to have been written in Japanese originally <small>(I think? LM2's English translation is weird enough for me to wonder if it even is a translation or if the two scripts were written in parallel, but probably not)</small>, and the other pest enemies have similarly generic English names (mouse, bat...). | This proposal aims to split the crow enemy from Luigi's Mansion 2 and 3 into its own page, titled "{{Fake link|Crow (Luigi's Mansion series)}}". These crows are a recurring enemy with a unique Japanese <small>(and Chinese and Korean)</small> name. While these games are developed by Next Level Games, they appear to have been written in Japanese originally <small>(I think? LM2's English translation is weird enough for me to wonder if it even is a translation or if the two scripts were written in parallel, but probably not)</small>, and the other pest enemies have similarly generic English names (mouse, bat...). | ||
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#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Opposing for the sake of simplicity. The only reason this is being considered is different Japanese names, but other than that... they're just crows and frogs, casual readers would most likely be looking for them here and I don't see a benefit to splitting. I don't think the Yoshi's Story frog should be split either. | #{{User|Waluigi Time}} Opposing for the sake of simplicity. The only reason this is being considered is different Japanese names, but other than that... they're just crows and frogs, casual readers would most likely be looking for them here and I don't see a benefit to splitting. I don't think the Yoshi's Story frog should be split either. | ||
#{{User|Koopa con Carne}} The Japanese name of the crows in the Luigi's Mansion series is... "crow". Even if other Mario games identify crows as ''watarigarasu'' ("ravens") in Japanese, both crows and ravens are nebulous groupings within just one genus of birds, i.e. they have so many intertwined traits in real life that arguing whether a fictional crow-like character was based on whatever real species of corvid is splitting hairs immensely and has no place on a wiki about a video game franchise. | #{{User|Koopa con Carne}} The Japanese name of the crows in the Luigi's Mansion series is... "crow". Even if other Mario games identify crows as ''watarigarasu'' ("ravens") in Japanese, both crows and ravens are nebulous groupings within just one genus of birds, i.e. they have so many intertwined traits in real life that arguing whether a fictional crow-like character was based on whatever real species of corvid is splitting hairs immensely and has no place on a wiki about a video game franchise. | ||
#{{User|DrippingYellow}} The game was mainly developed by a [[Next Level Games|Canadian company]], with Nintendo staff only being in "Supervisor" roles according to the credits. <s>So unless we find out that the Japanese name is used internally in the files or something (as is the case with [[Robomb]]s), any talk of the developers "intending" these to be a unique species compared to normal animals just seems like speculation.</s> Plus, these animals are consistently named just "Crow" and "Frog" internally | #{{User|DrippingYellow}} The game was mainly developed by a [[Next Level Games|Canadian company]], with Nintendo staff only being in "Supervisor" roles according to the credits. <s>So unless we find out that the Japanese name is used internally in the files or something (as is the case with [[Robomb]]s), any talk of the developers "intending" these to be a unique species compared to normal animals just seems like speculation.</s> Plus, these animals are consistently named just "Crow" and "Frog" internally, for what it's worth. | ||
#{{User|Dark-Boy-1up}} I prefer simplicity for casual viewers over going all nitty gritty on some animals that are just the same but do different things than the others. | #{{User|Dark-Boy-1up}} I prefer simplicity for casual viewers over going all nitty gritty on some animals that are just the same but do different things than the others. | ||
#{{User|Sgt. Sarge}} I like keeping things collected together whenever reasonably possible. Splitting the Crows and Frogs into separate categories from the Crows in Frogs in other games will make it more difficult for users to find. | #{{User|Sgt. Sarge}} I like keeping things collected together whenever reasonably possible. Splitting the Crows and Frogs into separate categories from the Crows in Frogs in other games will make it more difficult for users to find. | ||
#{{User|Mario}} Looks like it's splitting hairs. Or maybe [[wikipedia:feather|barbules]]? Like what holds a feather together? I think all these crows will love peanuts though! π₯π₯π₯π₯ | #{{User|Mario}} Looks like it's splitting hairs. Or maybe [[wikipedia:feather|barbules]]? Like what holds a feather together? I think all these crows will love peanuts though! π₯π₯π₯π₯ | ||
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#'''LM pests are unique enemies, and so are those introduced afterward''' - this one... is what this proposal is based on. | #'''LM pests are unique enemies, and so are those introduced afterward''' - this one... is what this proposal is based on. | ||
This should make discussion easier, I hope? [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 15:02, January 12, 2024 (EST) | This should make discussion easier, I hope? [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 15:02, January 12, 2024 (EST) | ||