Editing Talk:! Block

== Orange ! Blocks? ==
Aren't the ! Blocks in [[Super Mario 64]] and the [[Super Mario 64 DS|remake]] '''yellow''' instead of orange? In Super Mario 64 DS the blocks look more yellow than orange.
Please reply to my [[User_talk: TheUnknown67|talk page]]. {{User:TheUnknown67/sig}} 18:28, 10 July 2016 (EDT)

== Item? ==

When I played ''Super Mario World'', I hit a red ! Block and I got a Fire Flower. When I hit the blue ! Block, I got a Super Star. How in the world did this happen? {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}}

== Make Cap Block an article ==
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{{ProposalOutcome|no quorum|1-1-0}}
The ''SM64'' / ''SM64DS'' section on this page suggests the page be split into "! Block" and "Cap Block." I created a page for Cap Block, but it got reverted because the split wasn't discussed. Since it's suggested that Cap Block be its own article and I previously created a page for it, I think Cap Block should have an article. Also, this article doesn't have any pictures of the Cap Blocks, and if "Cap Block" is an official name and can be discussed in detail, it should probably have an article, where pictures of Cap Blocks can be, since putting the Cap Block pictures in the ''SM64'' / ''SM64DS'' section on the ! Block article wouldn't look very good.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Dwhitney}}<br>
'''Deadline''': December 15, 2021, 23:59 GMT

====Split Cap Block without merging Metal Box====
#{{User|Dwhitney}} Per what I said.

====Split Cap Block and merge Metal Box with it====
#{{user|7feetunder}} Since we split [[Cap Switch]], I don't see a problem with splitting Cap Block as well, and they have a distinct purpose from the standard yellow ! Blocks that hold miscellaneous items like [[coin]]s, [[Green Shell|Koopa Shell]]s, and [[Power Stars]]. I do think that [[Metal Box]] should be merged with it though, since it has nothing over the other Cap Blocks other than appearing in a crossover franchise.

====Do nothing====

====Comments====
There should be a third option to both split Cap Block and merge [[Metal Box]] with it. If Cap Block gets its own article, then I don't see a reason for Metal Box to be separate from it just because it's the one that became an item in ''Smash''. In terms of the base ''Mario'' franchise, it's no more important than the other two. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 20:27, November 30, 2021 (EST)

==Make Cap Block an article (take 2) or merge Cap Switch back into ! Switch==
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{{ProposalOutcome|passed|5-1-0|split Cap Block}}
This is a continuation of a [[Talk:! Switch#Merge Purple Switch here, split Cap Switch, or both|previous]] proposal as well as a redo of the above. Simply put, what we have right now is a half-measure. Cap Switch was split from ! Switch, but the block equivalent remains unsplit, and the ''Super Mario 64'' and ''Super Mario 64 DS'' versions of both are still peppered throughout multiple articles. This proposal aims to simplify linkage, maintain consistency, and hopefully finish the job started by the previous proposal. Here is the summary for why it ought to be its own article:
*Like the perma-activating switches, the power-up blocks serve essentially the same purpose between ''Super Mario 64'' and ''Super Mario 64 DS'', and are direct counterparts.
*"Cap Switch" and "Cap Block" is an English localization, as the original term isn't indicative of the type of power-up: in the Japanese version of ''Super Mario 64'', the Cap Switch is properly named 「アイテムスイッチ」 (Item Switch) and the Cap Block is properly named 「アイテムブロック」 (Item Block), which are noticeably less specific; meanwhile, the ''Super Mario 64 DS'' object is identified as <tt>ITEM_BLOCK</tt> internally (VS game, <tt>VS_ITEM_BLOCK</tt>), and there are completely different, character-switching "[[tcrf:Super Mario 64 DS#Cap Blocks (0x0021 to 0x0023)|Cap Blocks]]" unused in the game.
*Additionally, while the English ''Super Mario 64 DS'' manual gives the name "! Block" to the yellow block, the Japanese manual gives the name "''Orange Block''" which, while different from the ''Super Mario 64'' version ("''yellow block''"), still fits within the colored block naming scheme despite there no longer being green or blue blocks to have to make color differentiation necessary.
*The arbitrary symbol flip from "!" to "?" is deemed trivial (we're not splitting Tower of the Wing Cap anytime soon after all) enough that ''Super Mario 64'' and ''Super Mario 64 DS'' content can easily be shared within the same articles, separate from !/? Switch/Block (<nowiki>{{main}}</nowiki> will be used in those article sections).
*The general sentiment towards the end of the previous proposal supported this idea, but it was slightly outside the scope of the original proposer's intent and the above's result halted traction.
*The Metal Box from the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series is the green block from ''Super Mario 64'' and thus belongs in the same article, featuring its own section.
I may add an option without the final point if there's a demand for it, but as of writing I don't think it's necessary as having both would be bending [[MarioWiki:Once and only once|once and only once]].

'''Proposer''': {{user|LinkTheLefty}}<br>
'''Deadline''': March 29, 2022, 23:59 GMT
===Enact the proposed changes===
#{{user|LinkTheLefty}} - [[Talk:Cape Feather#Split "Cape Feather" and "Feather" similar to how we handle Super Mushroom and Mushroom|In]] [[Talk:Grinder (enemy)#Merge with Ukiki redux|the]] [[Talk:Snufit#Merge Snufit with Snifit|spirit]] [[Talk:Bubba#Move Super Mario 64 DS Boss Bass info over to Bubba or Merge|of]] [[Talk:Keronpa Ball#Move Super Mario 64 DS Flame Chomp info and/or Kuromame over to Keronpa Ball|proposal]] [[Template talk:SM64 missions#Rename Metal-Head Wario Can Move and Luigi in the Cage back to Metal-Head Mario Can Move! and Roll into the Cage respectively, or split them|patterns.]]
#{{user|7feetunder}} Per this proposal and my comments on the previous one.
#{{user|Blinker}} - Per proposal.
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all.

===Merge Cap Switch back with ! Switch instead===
#{{User|Hewer}} These two switches are identical in basically every way besides the name, so I strongly doubt that they were meant to be different items.

===The status quo===

===Comments===
@Hewer: Keep in mind, "identical in basically every way besides the name" applies more to the "!" ''Super Mario 64'' switch and the "?" ''Super Mario 64 DS'' switch than either version to the game's own "Purple Switch". [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:45, March 15, 2022 (EDT)