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|nominated=1:52 PM CST, February 11, 2017
|nominated=1:52 PM CST, February 11, 2017
|lastedit=12:45, 12 April 2017 (EDT)
|passed=17:18, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
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==== Support ====
==== Support ====
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#{{User|Yoshi876}}
#{{User|Yoshi876}}
#{{User|Yoshi the Space Station Manager}} Really long article, but it makes up by having the most items. It is also something that other articles should follow. Per all.
#{{User|Yoshi the Space Station Manager}} Really long article, but it makes up by having the most items. It is also something that other articles should follow. Per all.
#{{User|Ultimate Mr. L}} After originally opossing due to a lack of information in the worlds table, I realized that that's OK. The information should be covered in the individual articles. As that was the only reason for my opposition, I am supporting.


==== Oppose ====
==== Oppose ====
#<s>{{User|Baby Luigi}} The list of enemies, bosses, and objects irk me. I strongly believe that enemies here may need visual representations of themselves, because the average viewer may not know what a Splounder or a Flopter looks like because the enemy is never named in game and it forces viewers to click on a lot of articles until they finally get a visual picture of the character from clicking on the correct article or a name-guess. Besides, other featured articles list their enemies and objects, namely the ''Donkey Kong Country'' series articles, an example being ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest]]''. Addutionally, the reception section is half-assed, with no table, no Metacritic score, and some weasel-worded like criticisms, like its second, unsourced paragraph. Also, the gameplay paragraph can be rewritten. Having some enemies from Super Mario World, for example, does not exactly constitute as "elements from Super Mario World making a return". The gameplay section goes to great lengths explaining what makes a return from what previous game, when its priority is to first explain the general gameplay of how Mario functions; there's always first time viewers who may not know prior Mario information so this confuses potential first time readers and forces them to jump all over the wiki to know the full context of games. Therefore, that general gameplay should be talked about first, how the game plays, how Mario works, THEN it should list if those said elements of this game originate from a previous Mario game.</s>
#<s>{{User|Baby Luigi}} The list of enemies, bosses, and objects irk me. I strongly believe that enemies here may need visual representations of themselves, because the average viewer may not know what a Splounder or a Flopter looks like because the enemy is never named in game and it forces viewers to click on a lot of articles until they finally get a visual picture of the character from clicking on the correct article or a name-guess. Besides, other featured articles list their enemies and objects, namely the ''Donkey Kong Country'' series articles, an example being ''[[Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest]]''. Addutionally, the reception section is half-assed, with no table, no Metacritic score, and some weasel-worded like criticisms, like its second, unsourced paragraph. Also, the gameplay paragraph can be rewritten. Having some enemies from Super Mario World, for example, does not exactly constitute as "elements from Super Mario World making a return". The gameplay section goes to great lengths explaining what makes a return from what previous game, when its priority is to first explain the general gameplay of how Mario functions; there's always first time viewers who may not know prior Mario information so this confuses potential first time readers and forces them to jump all over the wiki to know the full context of games. Therefore, that general gameplay should be talked about first, how the game plays, how Mario works, THEN it should list if those said elements of this game originate from a previous Mario game.</s>
#<s>{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I agree with I agree with Alex95's comment down below about the power-ups and transformations table.</s>
#<s>{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I agree with I agree with Alex95's comment down below about the power-ups and transformations table.</s>
#<s>{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Per both. Other than those major issues, everything else on the article is written nicely. It's just that those major sections are causing me to oppose.</s>
#{{User|Boo4761}} Large amounts of the article are lists. If we change those to what Baby Luigi said, maybe it could be worthy of featured status.
#{{User|Boo4761}} Large amounts of the article are lists. If we change those to what Baby Luigi said, maybe it could be worthy of featured status.
#<s>{{User|Alex95}} It feels like there are ''two'' lists of usable power-ups, with both the transformations and items listing the same power-ups. It seems redundant. Maybe that should be corrected in some way.</s>
#<s>{{User|Alex95}} It feels like there are ''two'' lists of usable power-ups, with both the transformations and items listing the same power-ups. It seems redundant. Maybe that should be corrected in some way.</s>
#{{User|PinkYoshiFan}} My new oppose is that the tables make it super long, which is annoying and per Baby Luigi
#{{User|PinkYoshiFan}} My new oppose is that the tables make it super long, which is annoying and per Baby Luigi
<s>#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Per both. Other than those major issues, everything else on the article is written nicely. It's just that those major sections are causing me to oppose.</s>


==== Removal of opposes ====
==== Removal of opposes ====
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#{{User|Supermariofan67}} I think everything has been fixed.
#{{User|Supermariofan67}} I think everything has been fixed.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per Supermariofan67.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per Supermariofan67.
#{{User|Glowsquid}} - objections have been adressed.
=====PinkYoshiFan=====
=====PinkYoshiFan=====
#{{User|Supermariofan67}} Per Baby Luigi's comments. This game has a very large number of enemies/objects. Therefore, it is going to have a very long article. The reason it couldn't be featured before is that it ''didn't'' have the tables.
#{{User|Supermariofan67}} Per Baby Luigi's comments. This game has a very large number of enemies/objects. Therefore, it is going to have a very long article. The reason it couldn't be featured before is that it ''didn't'' have the tables.
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Although, there are two tables that show the power-ups, both at [[Super Mario 3D World#Transformations|Transformations]] and [[Super Mario 3D World#Items and objects|Items and objects]]. It seems redundant to have both, so should we remove the first table as the second covers everything in more detail? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:56, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
Although, there are two tables that show the power-ups, both at [[Super Mario 3D World#Transformations|Transformations]] and [[Super Mario 3D World#Items and objects|Items and objects]]. It seems redundant to have both, so should we remove the first table as the second covers everything in more detail? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:56, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
:I agree that it seems redundant. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 17:01, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
:I agree that it seems redundant. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 17:01, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
::<s>I think the power-ups and transformations are actually fine, as we do list them as distinct entities. However, the Support items don't need two images, so I agree with removing the second set of images for that particular table.</s> {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:27, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
::I think the power-ups and transformations are actually fine, as we do list them as distinct entities. However, the Support items don't need two images, so I agree with removing the second set of images for that particular table. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:27, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
:::When Alex95 added the comment, there were two separate tables that covered both transformations and power-ups. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 19:37, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
:::When Alex95 added the comment, there were two separate tables that covered both transformations and power-ups. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 19:37, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
::::Ninja'd: Disregard what I said, I've commented after the changes are made. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:39, 11 April 2017 (EDT)


Seriously though, fix the green coin picture, or I'll be forced to oppose. Having a red link in place of an image is a pretty big problem. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:36, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
Seriously though, fix the green coin picture, or I'll be forced to oppose. Having a red link in place of an image is a pretty big problem. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:36, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
:I will upload it tomorrow morning. Also, can someone put in a removal of oppose for Boo4761? This will run out of time very soon. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 20:51, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
:Ok. I have uploaded the image. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 10:36, 12 April 2017 (EDT)
@<s>{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Your strikethrough covers the hash sign and screws up the list. Could you fix that please?</s><br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 19:51, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
Is there any possibility this could pass? The only thing preventing it from passing is {{User|Boo4761}}'s vote, which obviously is no longer valid. For some reason, it never got enough removal of oppose votes. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 13:42, 12 April 2017 (EDT)
:Maybe like in Paper Mario's case, since most problems got fixed, you could request staff to ask for another round immediately. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 13:45, 12 April 2017 (EDT)

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