MarioWiki:Proposals

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

  1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and Writing Guideline proposals must include a link to the draft page.
  2. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for Writing Guidelines and Talk Page Proposals, which run for two weeks. (All times GMT.)
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing with or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
  4. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
  5. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote.
  6. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
  7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  8. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
  9. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
  10. Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
  11. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  12. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that cancelled proposals must also be archived.
  13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
  14. There should not be proposals about creating articles on an underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
  15. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
  16. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format

This is an example of what your proposal should look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]".

===[insert a title for your Proposal here]===
[describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT.]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".

Talk Page Proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled Talk Page Proposals, see here.

How To

  1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages affected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "(Template:Fakelink)". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use {{fakelink}} to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the heading.
  2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
  3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. (All times GMT.)
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. Talk page proposals may be closed by the proposer at any time if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
  5. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

Writing Guidelines

None at the moment.

New Features

Cover Mario Knockoffs

The Super Mario Wiki is a place where everything Mario should be covered. I have checked and we have done well. However, we have only covered the licensed things (as far as I know). The unlicensed things have not been touched. I am talking about knockoff games. Games like Mobario, the mobile "Mario" game for phones and the Great Giana Sisters, the peculiar platform game about two punk girls named Giana and Maria. Since we are the Mario wiki, we should cover everything Mario, licensed or not.

Proposer: Magikrazy51 (talk)
Deadline: July 25, 2011, 23:59 GMT.

Support

  1. Toadbert101 (talk) I really dont see what the harm in giving them a short paragraph or so on a page called "Mario knock offs" or something would do. And quite honestly, why are people in oppose so angry? Really, its not going to harm anything. Its getting more information on mario-related things that exists out there for the MARIO DATABASE here.

Oppose

  1. Goomba's Shoe15 (talk) no we shouldnt cover anything that wasnt made, licensed, or published by nintendo cause those things are not official also there was a proposal about this exact thing right here [1] and it failed miserably so per the arguments in that proposal as well. Also if we cover unlicensed games why not cover flash videos cause they were also based on the mario series.
  2. Walkazo (talk) - Including any fanon would undermine our goal of providing our readers with a complete, factual account of the Mario series (including its equally official spin-offs and crossovers, and the people and organizations who have made all of that possible). If it's not authorized by Nintendo, we're not writing about it. End of story.
  3. Supremo78 (talk) - Like the two above me said, we only talk about the officially licensed games such as the Banjo series spinned off by Rare. Series that are "knockoffs" we don't cover. If we added them, we really wouldn't be a wiki anymore.
  4. MrConcreteDonkey (talk) - Per all.
  5. MeritC (talk) - No, no, no, no, no, and a million times NO. I don't get upset like this, but this is the Super Mario Wiki for a reason. Knockoffs would ruin the main puropse of why this place is here. So, I say this once again -- NO. And of course, per what the others above me said.
  6. Xzelion (talk) – Per all.
  7. Mario4Ever (talk) No chance in the Underwhere. Per all.
  8. Magikrazy51 (talk) Per all, I was on a serious ice cream sugar rush when I thought up this. Plus it was 2:00 in the morning and I was very tired.
  9. Zero777 (talk) Really? Is this real! How can I say this without being offensive or politically incorrect....... I can't... this is just plain idiotic. Really, just delete this, this will cause chaos. THIS IS MADNESS!! Policy state specifically against this sort of action, so this can be considered unconstitutional.
  10. Shadow34 (talk) – NonononoNO. This isn't the Mario Fanon Wiki, it's for OFFICIAL, CANON, and LICENSED material.
  11. Glowsquid (talk) - Per my comment below.
  12. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) Per my opinion on the link Goomba's Shoe gave. Besides, this is so broad, that even if I made a cruddy game, it would have to be covered. There's millions of fan games based on Mario out there, and it would be pointless to cover them all. This is for official stuff only. Cover fan made stuff and etcetera in other wikis. This isn't the place to do it.
  13. Reddragon19k (talk) - Although this is indeed a bad idea to propose this but this is a... PER EVERYONE!!!
  14. Rise Up Above It (talk) No. Thirty-six times no. There are too many random, crappy and/or obscure fanon games lurking around. This is definitely a proposal that is very untenable. But what about the possibility of adding sections for fan-made products like the stuff found on Etsy under the Merchandise page? Nah, that'll get shot down with just as much vigour as this proposal.
  15. Bowser's luma (talk) If we do that, there would be tons of arguments about what is "worthy" of being covered and what is not. People will be like "oh, I wrote a story about Mario. Let's make an article." We don't need that - anyway we only cover canon stuff to begin with. If I typed something uncanon in an article, it would be reverted. It's the same type of thing, just with a whle article.
  16. New Super Yoshi (talk)Per all.
  17. Mariomario64 (talk) – Per all. If it's unlicsensed, it's unofficial.
  18. Mario Bros.! (talk) Per all
  19. ThirdMarioBro (talk) If we did this, we would have articles on inappropiate games and animations, like Mario Hardcore and Dumba** Mario, and, therefore, doing this would be detrimental for the wiki. Per all.
  20. Superfiremario (talk) Seriously, this is a wiki on OFFICIAL Mmario things lisenced by Nintendo. NOT a fanon wiki.

Comments

@Magikrazy51: The first three days of a proposal, you can change things to it. Along with that, you can delete your proposal. If you don't like this proposal, you can delete it. Baby Mario Bloops (talk)

Why do so many people oppose this when we have this page? - Mas0n 17:38, 18 July 2011 (EDT)

Those are references to legitimate characters and games, which is different from, say, Super Mario Bros. Z, which uses a hodge-podge of Nintendo and Sega sprites to create an unofficial series. Mario4Ever (talk)
This proposal would likely be doing better if it was written better.WHY IS TOADBERT LEAVING A COMMENT|Lol Toadbert101

One thing I don't understand is why one opposer is being disrespectful to Magikrazy. You shouldn't be mean to a user just because he has an idea that he thought should be added. Supremo78 (talk)

Something else ive noticed is that most of the opposer's reasons for opposing are all terrible and make no sense.toadbert
@Supremo78:If you mean Zero, his criticism is not an ad hominem attack; he just disapproves of the proposal. @Toadbert101: How is saying we only cover Nintendo-licensed content a terrible and nonsensical reason, for that is more or less what everyone is saying thus far. Mario4Ever (talk)

Actually all of them have the same theme; we don't cover unlicensed games. Other than that, it's a "per all". Supremo78 (talk)

Covering bootlegs and ripoffs would either result in 1: a truckload of short articles about crappy Famicom hacks with names like Hyper Mario 3D Blast Z 2 clogging up the wiki or 2: an unholy huge list that nobody would actually read (there a lot of these things). Listing the mind-bending products of Chinese bootleggers is "fun" and "informative" in the same way listing vague storytelling patterns without analysis or context is "fun", but at the end, it's not really useful and after a certain limit, it's just repetitive noise. And that's not getting into fanworks, oooooh boy.

That being said, some of the oppose reasons are really petulant. /seriously/. --Glowsquid 18:11, 18 July 2011 (EDT)

@Toadbert101: You shouldn't be supporting this proposal then. Your suggesting something else that could far-fetch out shot maybe, probably not possible, but this proposal has a different idea and outcome. Zero777 (talk)

Hotel Mario. Nuff said. SWFlash (talk)

Philips was given the rights to use Mario for that game. It doesn't qualify as a Mario knockoff, if that's what you're implying. Mario4Ever (talk)
Yeah Hotel Mario is an official game that was created with the permission of Nintendo Goomba's Shoe15 (talk)

@Zero 777: THIS IS THE SUPER MARIO WIKI! Sorry, I just had to get that old joke aside. Anyways, back to my point. @everyone: What inspired me to make this proposal (aside from the sugar rush and tiredness) was this little story. I was searching the Muppet Wiki for reasons unknown when I came across an article wntitled "Blue Big Bird Knockoff Plush Toys". I searched it and wondered if we had any knockoff articles (BTW, the tag on the toy said "Cookie Monster" for some reason). I searched for both Mobario and The Great Giana Sisters, but no results. So basically, a big blue bird named Cookie Monster told me to do this. Magikrazy51 (talk)

Can't you request for it to be deleted? Yoshiwaker (talk)
The SMW shows info on every official thing about the Marioverse, not some knock-offs; I can make a broken program for the crappiest Super Mario Bros. knockoff and it will still be here, that will make it look childish and bad. Chances are that this Muppets Wiki is infact a Wikia, Wikias have a reputation for being unprofessional, unorganized, and straight out dumb looking (no offense to anyone who is a user in one). Zero777 (talk)
You're right, though it doesn't look bad. Mario4Ever (talk)
It's not professional, but it's not bad for a starter. Magikrazy, why aren't you even supporting your own proposal? Zero777 (talk)
Because he already admitted it was a stupid idea and he wasn't thinking right when he was creating it. Yoshiwaker (talk)
Never eat ice cream at 2 in the morning. Magikrazy51 (talk)

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

Change the Gallery pages' names from "Gallery:(page name)" to "(page name)/Gallery"

The Gallery pages will look better if are labeled as the glitches, beta elements and staff ones. They look different by their names.

Proposer: Goomblob (talk)
Deadline: July 28, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Support

Oppose

  1. Cleanup Guy (talk) Gallery is a different type of mainspace.
  2. DKPetey99 (talk) Gallery is its own section, like categories. We can't just rename them like that.
  3. Tails777 (talk) Per DKPetey. The name is good the way it is.
  4. YoshiGo99 (talk) Fantendo does it but we aren't Fantendo.
  5. Reddragon19k (talk) If I consider this proposal to fail, then it should be a per all so, there!
  6. Propeller Toad (talk) Per DKPetey. I also prefer them to be in their current state.
  7. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - We have had a past proposal dealing with the issue. In that proposal, we decided to change it to how it currently is. Beta Elements and Quotes and those other pages are Pagename/(BE or Quote) strictly because Gallery is more universal. Galleries can involve a character, a game, a comic, etc., while Beta Elements and Quotes are really just for games.
  8. Bowser's luma (talk) Per DKPetey.
  9. Fawfulfury65 (talk) Per BMB.
  10. MeritC (talk) Per all, plus renaming those gallery pages would be a total waste of time in this case.
  11. New Super Yoshi (talk) Per all.
  12. Mariomario64 (talk) – Per all.
  13. Mario Bros.! (talk) Per all
  14. superfiremario (talk) Is there a reason for this? No.
  15. BoygeyMario (talk) Per all! :)
  16. M&SG (talk) - Nope. I find it better if we stick with "Gallery:(page name)".

Comments

Shouldn't this be with changes? Superfiremario (talk)

Yes. I moved it. - Walkazo (talk)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.

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