MarioWiki:Proposals

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!" "Vote" periods last for one week. All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
2. Users then start to discuss on the issue. 24 hours after posting the proposal (rounding up or down to the next or previous full hour, respectively, is allowed), the voting period begins. (The proposer is allowed to support their proposal right after posting.) Each proposal ends at the end of the day one week after voting start. (All times GMT).
3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
4. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. The voter can remove or rewrite his/her own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another User's vote lies solely with the Administrators.
5. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
6. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
8. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
9. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
10. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
11. There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
12. Proposals cannot be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
13. If the Sysops deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
14. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in GMT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Monday night at 23:59 GMT, the deadline is the night of the Tuesday of the next week at 23:59 PM. If it is posted a minute later, the deadline is 23:59 PM of the Wednesday of the next week, since midnight is considered to be part of the next day, as 00:00 AM.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format

This is an example how your proposal should look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]".

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===[insert a title for your Proposal here]===
[describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Voting start''': [insert a voting start time here, f.e. "2 January, 2010, 14:00". Voting start times are 24 hours after the time at which the proposal was posted, as described in Rule 2 above.]<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the voting start, at 23:59 GMT.]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

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Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".

Talk Page Proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.

How To

1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages effected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "(Template:Fakelink)". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use {{fakelink}} to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the heading.
2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. There is no 24 hour delay between the posting of a talk page proposal and the commencement of voting.
4. Talk page proposals may closed by the proposer if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
5. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

• Merge Lakitu Travel into List of Implied Organizations (Discuss) Extended: September 15, 2010 at 23:59 GMT.
• Merge Nurse Toadstool into Princess Peach (Discuss) Deadline: September 18th, 2010 at 23:59 GMT.

New Features

None at the moment

Removals

Remove "Did You Know"

When you really think about it, the "Did You Know" section on the main page is as pointless as the Quote of the Day was. It shares facts that people won't care about and more than likely adds to the loading time. I don't think that it would matter if it were a three second difference if the section were there, but it would be a problem if it were a ten second difference.

Propser:DaisyRox02 (talk)
Voting start:September 13, 2010, 13:37 GMT
Deadline:September 19, 2010, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. DaisyRox02 (talk)-Per above, obviously.

Oppose

1. Mechayoshi (talk)- nope. The newcommers has to see something and I've never had loading problems anyway.
2. MrConcreteDonkey (talk) Stupidest proposal ever. A proposal has recently failed '2-22 or something like that to remove it. Seriously, admins, delete this.
3. Young Master Luma (talk) I think we should keep the DYK. I, personally, read it A LOT, I even think it should be updated more often. Perhaps I should do that... Anyway, my point is, don't ever remove the DYK. (Also, you made a typo on "Proposer", it sys "Propser".
4. Gamefreak75 (talk) - Did you know that people still like the DYK section? Per all.
5. Lu-igi board you think it's it pointless everyone else however likes it. per all
6. Frostyfireyoshi (talk) NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Per all.
7. Supershroom (talk) ARGH! Please don't! I've seen this proposal too many times. I like it-- Per everyone else who had the good taste to oppose.

Comments

Now this??? Does everyone hate everything?Mechayoshi (talk)

Well, we had this proposal less than a week ago. Emperor Yoshi (talk)

I am Zero! So then shouldn't this be removed? Zero signing out. Zero777 (talk)

I feel that this should be replaced with the community template. I don't believe that there was any reason to get rid of that template, as it shows articles and stuff that need to be improved. If someone wants to learn some interesting facts, they should look through the trivia sections in the actual articles instead. Fawfulfury65 (talk)

Showing the facts are pretty interesting and random at times, so people get information they never knew before. Some articles are buried in this wiki and showing them on the front page would give a "I didn't know that!" feeling. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

Quote of the day was removed because it drew from a bunch of quotes, causing the page to take longer to load. Ralphfan (talk)

Changes

Expand Main Page to contain all content

What I liked about the main page was I could discuss featured images and vote on polls and all that stuff. The polls left, I was disapointed. However, they brought the polls back, but my other spot the featured images, was gone. It seems that, for stuff to come in, others must go. The way to solve that problem, expand the main page! We want to fit all the stuff everyone loves onto the first page they see when they enter the wiki.

Alright, so that idea sucked hard, but would anyone be against adding content that wasn't put on their before? We could have character of the week, user of the week, and new pages on the main page. Plus, we could improve the polls a little bit, I think it changes less often than it used to, as well as not including past polls from the last time they did the polls thing.

Proposer:Beecanoe (talk)
Voting start:9 September 2010, 00:00 GMT
Voting closes:16 September 2010, 00:00 GMT

Support

1. Morgomir96 (talk) Per proposal.

Oppose

1. LuigiMania (talk) The reason the FI was gone was gone was because IT WAS USELESS. We replaced it with the polls for more of a participation feel! FI's was a waste of space!
2. Marioguy1 (talk) - The main page is meant to be a quick introduction to the wiki. There's some general information, links, important announcements, a place showing our best content, a place showing the important changes to the wiki, a place for recent news, a place for interesting additions, a poll to make it more interactive, a box for the 'shroom because the 'shroom is awesome like that and a NIWA box. We don't need the quote of the day, it's just a random quote, 5% of the time it's actually funny and the other 95% it's stupid. The FI process was also shut down so I don't see how anyone could add a box for that considering it doesn't exist but, assuming you're planning to restart the system, there are enough images on the main page as is. Granted once in a blue moon the FIs actually produce an image that looks good but there's a very small chance of that happening (as was demonstrated before we shut it down) so the pictures in the FA and Nintendo news sections pretty much represent the image quality of the wiki. The main page is supposed to be brief and have only the most important things, let's keep it that way.
3. MrConcreteDonkey (talk) Woah...Per MG1's gargantaun lecture...
4. Walkazo (talk) - Per MG1.
5. Frostyfireyoshi (talk) Per The One & Only MG1.
6. Fuzzipede27 (talk) Per MG1.
7. Fawfulfury65 (talk) FIs are worthless, the main page is fine as it is.
8. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! Per MG1, MCD, and my comments below. Zero signing out.
9. Emperor Yoshi (talk) Well, the FIs were rather bad, and their voting system was absolutely terrible. No to mention, the Quote of the day was a pointless process, as the quotes that made it there were not always good, because The Mario series does not have many excellent quotes that could go there.
10. Mr bones (talk) Per all!
11. Smasher 101 (talk) Per all.
12. Bowser's luma (talk) Per MG1. Also, LuigiMania: LUMA <3 the FI.
13. LeftyGreenMario (talk) Although the main page looks a little plain to me, I do not want the Featured Images to return. Plenty of crap got featured due to fan voting. The quote of the day was just a filler. If you want more stuff on the main page, what do you want to add?
14. DaisyRox02 (talk) I disagree with everything that is on the propsal exept the FI part. I was extremely upset when they were taken off. Poll of the day should'nt be there. Neither should "Did You Know?" That's my opinion.
15. GalacticPetey (talk) Per Marioguy1, FF65, and Emperor Yoshi
16. Ralphfan (talk) – Per all.
17. Gamefreak75 (talk) Main page overload and computer crashes galore. Per all.
18. Supershroom (talk) While FIs could be occasionaly good, there are only so many quality pics that Nintendo have produced- sure, they make new games, but not as often as we uploaded new images. I like the polls, per all.

Comments

The problem is not space, the problem is the system behind the FI's, it was a total fail. Tucayo (talk)

Yeah, although we could bring back the community template, we'd have to also bring back FIs to balance the main page. The FIs should stay gone, since the whole voting system was terrible. Fawfulfury65 (talk)

I am Zero! ....For some reason I would sort of consider this a joke proposal since it's just what he wants. He's not really thinking of the space and memory it will take up and download time. Zero signing out. Zero777 (talk)

Well, maybe this should just be for the 'Projects Seeking Contributors' and maybe a 'Quote of the Day'. MrConcreteDonkey (talk)

Quote of the Day was stupid, it was just a random quote chosen. And Projects Seeking Contributors is a section of the Pipe Plaza. Read that instead. Marioguy1 (talk)

yeah and the polls are useless to since they really dont do anything by take up space mrblob1012 (talk)

The polls are a good extra to the main page. They are as pointful as the DYK, and a bit of fun.. MrConcreteDonkey (talk)

The polls take up space, yes, but what do you want to replace it with? Sometimes, taking up space is a good thing. <sarcasm>video games are pointless and take up space; let's prohibit them.</sarcasm> LeftyGreenMario (talk)

I am Zero! You're just thinking for yourself, what about the people who can't access the main page as quick as you. Zero signing out. Zero777 (talk)

I'm not selfish, it's just that empty space sometimes needs to be filled in with something. I'm not saying that taking space is always a good thing. Unnecessary space leads to server slowdown, but we won't allow a main page with blank gaps. Besides, I use a Netbook, which is a very lightweight laptop, which means it's not as fast as most PCs. The page might load quite quickly, but that's because my Firefox blocked the ads. LeftyGreenMario (talk)

Character of the week? Seriously? That's practically what FA is just narrowed down onto the characters! Who needs that? They can just go on the Charcter's page and look at it there, and what if the "Chatacter of the Week" is a stub?DaisyRox02 (talk)

Why don't we just leave it as is? Nobody will ever agree on one thing, if we did, what would this page be for? The sysops and such have decided on the way the page currently is. We should respect their decisions. Bowser's luma (talk)

Miscellaneous

Cleaning the Sandbox Routinely

I recently noticed that the sandbox talk page is just people asking if they can delete what's there as it is occasionally too full. I propose that a user or two goes on at the end of the week to delete the content there. That would solve the issue of wondering when to delete and also keep the sandbox clean.

Proposer: Bowser's luma (talk)
Voting start: 13 September 2010, 23:35 GMT
Deadline: 20 September 2010, 23:59 GMT.

Support

1. Bowser's luma (talk) Per my proposal, I'd be happy to do it.

Comments

Any day in particular you want to clean this section up? BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

Sunday. Bowser's luma (talk)

Honestly, it can be cleaned up at any time. Ralphfan (talk)

However, people don't know when exactly to delete the content. Numerous questions had been asked, so we have to set up a standard of some sort, I guess. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

Yeah, the comments were from long ago when the Sandbox wasn't routinely cleaned. MrConcreteDonkey (talk)

From what I understand (I never used the sandbox) the sandbox' only purpose is to test wiki coding. Nothing that goes on there is of any importance, it's just users toying around with mediawiki to learn about how things work here. That said, the sandbox can be emptied at any given time by any user who thinks it's too full without stating an elaborate reason.

If you want to keep it clean, just empty it every time before you edit it. Clean up and get rid of the previous user's edits before you post your own stuff on it. I think this would be way more elegant than having content pile up until it gets deleted. Not to mention that it puts more stress on the people who will be in charge of keeping the proposed schedule. - Edofenrir (talk)