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::Well he'll know about the JP names better than I will. Besides, I still need to figure out the situation with the little Gohmas between OoT, OoS, and TP. And I'm ensuring that it ''won't'' be a "clone" of the other one. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:09, May 12, 2019 (EDT) | ::Well he'll know about the JP names better than I will. Besides, I still need to figure out the situation with the little Gohmas between OoT, OoS, and TP. And I'm ensuring that it ''won't'' be a "clone" of the other one. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:09, May 12, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:::Yeah i didnt want it to be a clone wiki or something. i'm just using that phrase because i assume many already think that, since it's like the 4th-5th zelda wiki. i dont want to constantly send new messages on someones talk page and annoy them--i just saying him & others here probably think it's a clone wiki (because of the gamepedia zelda wiki). I do think Gohma (boss) is a possible article title for the Queen Gohma in OoT [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 00:15, May 12, 2019 (EDT) | :::Yeah i didnt want it to be a clone wiki or something. i'm just using that phrase because i assume many already think that, since it's like the 4th-5th zelda wiki. i dont want to constantly send new messages on someones talk page and annoy them--i just saying him & others here probably think it's a clone wiki (because of the gamepedia zelda wiki). I do think Gohma (boss) is a possible article title for the Queen Gohma in OoT [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 00:15, May 12, 2019 (EDT) | ||
::::Okay, well i just didnt want to tell you about it if you werent interested (seeing as i told you about 1-2 weeks ago), and I thought i involuntarily dragged you into something. It's definitely ambitious to build up a zelda wiki from scratch (especially with alternatives), so there's also that. It's kind of a controversial decision on my end to start a "clone wiki", but something in me felt it had to be done | ::::Okay, well i just didnt want to tell you about it if you werent interested (seeing as i told you about 1-2 weeks ago), and I thought i involuntarily dragged you into something. It's definitely ambitious to build up a zelda wiki from scratch (especially with alternatives), so there's also that. It's kind of a controversial decision on my end to start a "clone wiki", but something in me felt it had to be done [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 00:34, May 12, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:::::Thanks for letting me know--I didnt mean to sound condescending (if i came across that way). Like I said, Triforce Wiki is the hardest wiki task I've ever taken on, especially with like 3 other main wikis. It wouldnt surprise me if some didnt see the point or were uninterested [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 00:48, May 12, 2019 (EDT) | :::::Thanks for letting me know--I didnt mean to sound condescending (if i came across that way). Like I said, Triforce Wiki is the hardest wiki task I've ever taken on, especially with like 3 other main wikis. It wouldnt surprise me if some didnt see the point or were uninterested [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 00:48, May 12, 2019 (EDT) | ||
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== Crows, flames, and piscatory punks == | == Crows, flames, and piscatory punks == | ||
So regarding what you were wanting to do with Nitpicker and Kuro, (as well as the vague plans for Fire) isn't that | So regarding what you were wanting to do with Nitpicker and Kuro, (as well as the vague plans for Fire) isn't that fairly similar situation to Cheep Cheep and "Piscatory Pete?" Actually, CC and PP seem more clear-cut, since unlike th crow, the "underwater ''Pukupuku'' for ''Yoshi's Island''" got ''less'' distinct as time went on. I'd say leave Kuro alone, since the later appearance is where they deviated in name, more akin to the bouncy Bill in JP. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:14, December 29, 2019 (EST) | ||
:If memory serves, it's the only enemy to appear both underwater and not-quite-underwater, so a separate section for underwater makes sense. I mainly bring this up due to the amount of type splits the fellow SNES ''Kamigami no Triforce'' guide had for its enemy types. Anyways, on the subject of Spark and Zelda, should we consider the ''Zelda'' Sparks the same as the ''Mario'' Sparks, since they have the same name and behavior? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:47, December 29, 2019 (EST) | :If memory serves, it's the only enemy to appear both underwater and not-quite-underwater, so a separate section for underwater makes sense. I mainly bring this up due to the amount of type splits the fellow SNES ''Kamigami no Triforce'' guide had for its enemy types. Anyways, on the subject of Spark and Zelda, should we consider the ''Zelda'' Sparks the same as the ''Mario'' Sparks, since they have the same name and behavior? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:47, December 29, 2019 (EST) | ||
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*The platform in {{world-link|2|castlen2|World 2-Castle (New Super Mario Bros. 2)}} that moves to the right only when the player stands on it. It's just called a "raft" in the Prima guide. | *The platform in {{world-link|2|castlen2|World 2-Castle (New Super Mario Bros. 2)}} that moves to the right only when the player stands on it. It's just called a "raft" in the Prima guide. | ||
*The airship that appears in [[World 5-A (New Super Mario Bros. 2)|World 5-A]]. It's just called an "airship" in the Prima guide. | *The airship that appears in [[World 5-A (New Super Mario Bros. 2)|World 5-A]]. It's just called an "airship" in the Prima guide. | ||
*The specific type of fence in {{world-link|5|castlen2|World 5-Castle (New Super Mario Bros. 2)}} that moves on a track and alters its elevation whenever the player hits it. | *The specific type of fence in {{world-link|5|castlen2|World 5-Castle (New Super Mario Bros. 2)}} that moves on a track and alters its elevation whenever the player hits it. It's just called a "fence" in the Prima guide. | ||
*The skeletal raft in [[World 6-2 (New Super Mario Bros. 2)|World 6-2]]. It's never mentioned in the Prima guide. | *The skeletal raft in [[World 6-2 (New Super Mario Bros. 2)|World 6-2]]. It's never mentioned in the Prima guide. | ||
*The platforms in [[World 6-B (New Super Mario Bros. 2)|World 6-B]] that alternate between ascending and descending whenever the player lands on them. | *The platforms in [[World 6-B (New Super Mario Bros. 2)|World 6-B]] that alternate between ascending and descending whenever the player lands on them. It's just called a "platform" in the Prima guide. | ||
*Specific floor platforms appearing in the ''New Super Mario Bros. U'' levels [[Screwtop Tower]] and [[Shifting-Floor Cave]] based off of the floor platforms from [[World 2-2 (New Super Mario Bros.)|World 2-2]] of ''New Super Mario Bros.'', which are in turn based off of the floors from ''Mario Bros.'' If bumped from below, they rupture items and/or enemies directly above where they were bumped. They're never mentioned in the NSMBU Prima guide. | *Specific floor platforms appearing in the ''New Super Mario Bros. U'' levels [[Screwtop Tower]] and [[Shifting-Floor Cave]] based off of the floor platforms from [[World 2-2 (New Super Mario Bros.)|World 2-2]] of ''New Super Mario Bros.'', which are in turn based off of the floors from ''Mario Bros.'' If bumped from below, they rupture items and/or enemies directly above where they were bumped. They're never mentioned in the NSMBU Prima guide. | ||
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:It's less about whether Deep Cheeps should have full coverage for ''Yoshi's New Island'' and more of a "hey, the current wording goes a bit too far, can we please dial it back a bit?" I would've been okay with that if this conversation made headway. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:02, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | :It's less about whether Deep Cheeps should have full coverage for ''Yoshi's New Island'' and more of a "hey, the current wording goes a bit too far, can we please dial it back a bit?" I would've been okay with that if this conversation made headway. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:02, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | ||
::My personal feeling is that both it and the ''Maker'' info can be placed in an "other appearances and references" section on DC's page, as they both seem to be officially considered simply green Cheep Cheeps, with the ''Maker'' games cameoing Blurp and Deep Cheep's designs for the green versions (which the games themselves still simply call "Cheep Cheeps"). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:12, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | ::My personal feeling is that both it and the ''Maker'' info can be placed in an "other appearances and references" section on DC's page, as they both seem to be officially considered simply green Cheep Cheeps, with the ''Maker'' games cameoing Blurp and Deep Cheep's designs for the green versions (which the games themselves still simply call "Cheep Cheeps"). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:12, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | ||
:::I'm open to that. It sounds similar to the "partial coverage" option I was thinking of. That depends if SmokedChili will agree to it though. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:18, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::::If it's the "similar enemies" section on Deep Cheep's Doc means, sure, that can be rewritten and the existing trivia put there. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|talk]]) 02:50, August 19, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Interlanguage names == | |||
Okay, this'll be quick, but do you think you could find interlanguage names for [[Stretch Shroom]], [[Cross Lift]], and [[Seesaw Log Bridge]]? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:12, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | |||
==Windbag== | |||
Um, hey. I don't wanna be rude here, but is King Koopa's third alter ego in Little Red Riding Princess actually called Windbag or was it Princess Toadstool calling King Koopa a windbag after the latter floats away all puffed up? | |||
{{User:TheKarateToad/sig}} 18:33, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | |||
So, I guess that means the Opportunity and Windbag aliases should be removed from the list, correct? | |||
{{User:TheKarateToad/sig}} 19:18, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | |||
Works for me. | |||
{{User:TheKarateToad/sig}} 20:29, August 18, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== RE:Priority == | |||
It appears far less than the other arrow lift; besides, I remember a similar discussion I had with Mario jc [[User talk:Toadette the Achiever#RE: Flip Panel|ending in pretty much the same way]]. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:41, August 19, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:I guess I should clarify: I made a similar proposition with Mario jc a week ago concerning which [[Flip Panel]] should take priority, the platform or the Chain-Link object? He said neither, despite only the former having an in-game name. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:19, August 19, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Yeah, I'll do it. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:33, August 19, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::[[User talk:Toadette the Achiever#Doesn't take priority|And he says my change is correct.]] {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 01:51, August 20, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== DKC:TF character == | |||
Hey Link. Since you're across Shogakukan guides, do you have any insight into [[Talk:Tim]]? As much as I like the conjectural name, it would be great to use the official title. Thanks. | |||
{{User:Shokora/sig}} 00:53, August 21, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Unfortunately, it seems I don't have that one. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:28, August 25, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== In regards to Cheep Chomp == | |||
What are your thoughts on [https://tcrf.net/images/a/ab/Beta_Cheep_Chomp.jpg this]? While it looks like Bub and is in Dire Dire Docks, its mouth and size suggest to me it's an early Bubba at a Blurp stage of development. However, it's blurry enough I may be misjudging distance again. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:43, August 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Perhaps, but given the Micro Goomba reference the SMB3 appearance seems more likely to be what they were thinking of. Regardless, that would probably still be safer. I initially was wary on keeping Baku a variant of Big since most development materials indicate currently that it was a Blurp merely adapted to act somewhat like BB (given Cheep and Blurp were originally a way to use two palettes for incompatible sprites), though given the later design changes I suppose it's "derived" from it at ''some'' point. Also, given that seeming large Cheep Cheep in the screenshot, there may be a little more to it. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:26, August 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== RE: "Meta category" visibility == | |||
Porple fixed them, the templates should be visible when logged out. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:26, September 5, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Yes, these types of notices are aimed towards editors specifically, so having them visible to guests isn't necessary. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:24, September 5, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Same reason for the templates, they're irrelevant to guests, and it's cleaner for people who are simply browsing pages. If editors want to view them, they should sign in. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:07, September 7, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::Most likely by Porple since it was his decision. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:57, September 7, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Question == | |||
Hey Link. When convenient, I'm just wondering if you could register for a [https://www.marioboards.com/ forum account], if you didn't have one already? I had something to ask you via personal message. | |||
{{User:Shokora/sig}} 10:10, September 8, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Very well. I haven't been asked this before, but I've made one under the same handle as the wiki for convenience. Can't say for sure if I'll be able to respond right away at this time, however. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:08, September 10, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Black ShAnti Guy == | |||
So, in PMTOK, Black Shy Guy is the only Shy Guy color variant in the entire game (discounting Olly's disguise), and aside from the "Bro" enemies, Spike types, and red/blue Sidesteppers, seem to be the only recolor enemies in the entire game as well. Additionally, their attacks are totally different from the "normal" Shy Guys. While admittedly I'd like confirmation that it is "Black Heyho" and not "Kuro Heyho," I think this adds further credence to my idea of how to handle that page, do you agree? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:57, September 13, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:According to text data (Name_HEIB in glossary.msbt), their name is <tt>ヘイホー（くろ）</tt>. Enemy script is called <tt>btl_enemy_HeihoBlack.bin.zst</tt>. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 02:02, September 13, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Hmm, that shakes things up a bit... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:46, September 13, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::Seems this is a bit different in ''Color Splash'', where its internal name in <tt>content/data/btl/data_btl.elf</tt> is <tt>MTX_HEI ブラックヘイホー</tt>, its graphics file in <tt>content/Graphics/Character/Enemy/</tt> is <tt>HEI.Black</tt>, and its script file in <tt>content/script/btl/enemy/heiho</tt> is <tt>as_btl_heiho_matrix</tt> (which labels "<tt>BlackH eiho</tt>"). That may mean that the Japanese name of the Black Shy Guy from that game was going to be "Matrix Heiho" before making it an homage to ''Paper Mario'''s Anti Guy. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:26, September 14, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Re: PMTOK filenames == | |||
*1. I could not seem to find a small Scuttlebug model, but there is <tt>\script\wld\fld\npc\npc_gsgm.bin.zst</tt>, which might be it (compared to <tt>npc_gsg.bin.zst</tt>). There is a room called <tt>map\field\W3C4_SpiderNest.bfres.zst</tt>, too. | |||
*2. The small Goombas are not named in-game (like some other characters, such as Sombrero Guy and Dino Rhino). They do not have a name listed in <tt>\msg\US_English_Final\glossary.msbt</tt>, and do not appear to have a specific sprite file (there's only Goomba, Bone Goomba, and the costumed Goomba at Shogun Studios). Paper Paragoombas do not appear in-game, and do not appear as Paper Machos. I don't think there's a small one, either, for the regular enemy form. | |||
*3. Regular Cheep Cheeps are in <tt>\character\pera\P_PUK.Default.bntx.zst</tt>, and the legendary one is <tt>\character\pera\P_PUK_Fishing.Default.bntx.zst</tt>. It's the same with Bloopers (<tt>\character\pera\P_GES.Default.bntx.zst</tt> and <tt>\character\pera\P_GES_Fishing.Default.bntx.zst</tt>). The Legendary Blooper/Cheep Cheep aren't named as such in their catching pop-ups ("You caught a Cheep Cheep! It's huuuge! It's the ruler of the Great Sea!" and "You caught a Blooper! Calamitous calamari! It's plain to see this one rules the Great Sea!"), and only in the museum trophy description, which reads "Catch the Legendary Cheep Cheep and Legendary Blooper." In the Japanese script, this is "プクプクとゲッソーのぬしを釣り上げよう！" and a Google Translate indicates that it doesn't mention their size at all. If I had to guess, I'd say that the "Legendary" stuff was just made up by the localization team. | |||
*4. Mega Paper Macho Pokey's name is official and used in-game, the Parabomb is just known as "Paper Macho Bob-omb" in text data (and not in-game), and the smaller Paper Macho Goombas don't have a name listed. In Japanese, the Parabomb is ハリボテボムへい and Pokey is 巨大ハリボテサンボ. Although it is called "Name_H_SNB_Big" in the glossary.msbt file's data. In <tt>\ui\ItemIcon.bntx.zst</tt>, the Goomba Mask is called <tt>COSTUME_KUR</tt>, similarly to <tt>COSTUME_DON</tt> (Jungle King Mask) and <tt>COSTUME_SAM</tt> (Space Warrior Mask). Its 3D model is <tt>\mobj\Common\Mobj_CostumeKUR.bfres.zst</tt>. | |||
*5. Professor Toad is <tt>\character\pera\P_KNPP.Default.bntx.zst</tt>. His battle script uses this abbreviation too (<tt>\script\wld\btl\npc\btl_npc_KNPP.bin.zst</tt>). It seems like they're meant to be similar but not the same. | |||
*6. Olly's internal name is <tt>KNG</tt> (<tt>\effect\particle\BOSS_KNG.ptcl.zst</tt>). | |||
I don't think I will get ''3D All-Stars'', it seems like it costs too much for too little. I am interested about the file structure, too. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 13:45, September 14, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:*1. Yeah, I don't think we'll get any more confirmation on this for a while. | |||
:*2. There doesn't seem to be a designated model for the smaller Folded Soldier Paragoombas. | |||
:*3. There are large Cheep Cheeps bigger than regular ones but smaller than "Legendary." I think there are smaller Cheep Cheeps than the "Small" size in ''CS'', too. | |||
:*4. It starts as a Parabomb but then becomes a Bob-omb. If you'd like, we can move the Parabomb article. Paper Macho Lava Bubble's JP name is <tt>ハリボテバブル</tt> (roughly "Paper Macho Bubble"). | |||
:*5. He's never called just Toad, usually "Professor" for shorthand. This is in the English version, not sure about the Japanese one. | |||
:*6. Olivia's name is spelled out (<tt>W0C1_HelpOlivia.bin.zst</tt>), and her initial is <tt>O_BDY</tt> for her model. <tt>O_</tt> is a suffix for the origami characters, so it probably means "Origami Buddy." {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 13:25, September 19, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Watch out for falling rocks == | |||
So in the English MK64 manual, the Bowser's Castle section has an odd "watch for falling rocks" notice, shared with Choco Mountain. In [https://m1.nintendo.net/docvc/NUS/JPN/NKTJ/NKTJ_J.pdf the Japanese manual], a separate notice appears, but I can't tell what it says. The Choco Mountain one I can tell basically says "mind the rockfall," but I'm not sure on the castle one. My hunch is that it's about avoiding falling in lava and the "rocks" in the translation was a copypaste/placeholder oversight. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:10, September 23, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Re: Froggy's Shy Guys == | |||
Possibly, though on the subject of Tiny-Huge Island, the game itself really leaves it open to interpretation, with all definitive statements on the matter being in guides. Unless of course there's a signpost or something I'm missing. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:14, September 23, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Well, there's certainly enough examples that the pages should probably be remerged via a new proposal. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:55, October 16, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Truck the Tyrana Tower == | |||
So since you said you got that SM64 JP guide scan and with the recent Fire Piranha coverage shift, I was wondering if the page said whether "Piranha Flowers" are big Fire Packun or just big Packun. I bring this up partially because of Small Piranha and partially because of Viridi's list putting Big Fire Piranha's in the NSMBW section. Anyways, since you indicated that if said guide called the alleged "Kuromame" Keronpa then Keronpa Ball should be merged in spite of ESMB, I figured this may be the same basic principle. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:40, October 3, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:What's your opinion on it, though? On a related note, since we're now going by game interpretation to determine what's ''not'' a Fire Piranha Plant, should we also do so to determine what ''[[Lava Piranha|is]]''? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:39, October 16, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Well I have a discussion going in the latter case. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:53, October 16, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Re: ''Super Mario Bros.'' infobox image question == | |||
Technically speaking, there's no such thing as "proper" NES colors, as they are technically determined by the screen itself. When I fix colors on sprites and such, it is merely an approximation on what a TV would ''generally'' show as opposed to one that is blatantly wrong. One could argue the same thing (for the most part) for ''Super Mario Bros. Deluxe'' or even the Classic NES series. <small><small>By the by, have a high-priority question for you on the other project.</small></small> [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:15, October 20, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:What I think that the images should come from the base game ''itself'', so unless SMB35 is taking the images straight from SMB, I would disagree. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 17:46, October 20, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::@Doc: By "color-accurate" I meant by [[tcrf:Help:Contents/Taking Screenshots#Palette|TCRF standards]], which I think is a decent metric, but upon closer inspection, they actually seem to be closer to the dimmed palette used by the NES Classic. | |||
::@DarkNight: The icons themselves come from ''Super Mario Bros. 35'' but it's indeterminate if they were screenshotted from that or ''Super Mario Bros.'' Theoretically, the same exact images can be replicated from the base game. But, as it goes against the spirit of the proposal, I won't go further. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:56, October 25, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Rainbow M == | |||
I changed the premise of [[Talk:Goop#Give Rainbow M its own article|this proposal]] accordingly; therefore you should probably reconsider your argument. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 21:47, October 25, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Re: Paper Bloop == | |||
Thing is, TTYD ''itself'' just considers it a Blooper, and another game of a different series (and a crossover one at that) by another second/third-party development team can't really retcon that. I would, however, be fine considering the ''Smash Bros.'' one a Big Blooper that borrows the large TTYD one's design for the purpose of the stage's TTYD segment. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:19, October 25, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Oh, certainly. I just feel that given, among other things, their continues insistence that ReDeads are entirely constructs despite blatant evidence means that any authority it has over the initial sources is virtually nonexistent. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:16, October 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::<small>PRIMA guide for that game says they're just underground and are pushing up dirt piles, which honestly makes more sense.</small> [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:06, October 26, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== American English == | |||
Doc von Schmeltwick told me this wiki uses American English. I'm just following that rule, including the proper placement for punctuation in quotation marks, as stated under "Do commas and periods go inside or outside quotation marks?" on [https://www.grammarly.com/blog/quotation-marks this website]. I'm sorry if you don't agree with me, but I'll find out from an admin if this wiki uses that rule or not. [[User:Dwhitney|Dwhitney]] ([[User talk:Dwhitney|talk]]) 16:08, November 11, 2020 (EST) | |||
:[[MarioWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling standardization|As I understand it]], this only extends to game titles and ''word'' spelling, and even then, that rule wasn't always there. Regarding punctuation and references, I've taken it to be a first come, first served basis, as mentioned on the [[MarioWiki talk:Manual of Style#On the Topic of References|talk page]] (almost certain I've read from an admin somewhere that commas and quotations are in the same boat). Editing over a writing style that not everyone has agreed upon seems fruitless. A proposal can be made of it I guess, but I feel there are already enough of holdovers from the contractions proposal as it is. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:37, November 12, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Mega Blooper == | |||
Do you intend to move [[Mega Blooper]] to [[Big Blooper]]? If so, then it should be safe to perform the move now, since it appears that [[Special:WhatLinksHere]] isn't quite catching up with the current links. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 23:02, November 11, 2020 (EST) | |||
:I intend to, but first the Big Blooper redirect needs to be deleted to make way for the move. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:37, November 12, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Re: PiNGOUiN == | |||
I'm on my laptop instead of my desktop computer right now, but I'll look into it soon. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 16:05, November 17, 2020 (EST) | |||
:Finished. Turns out PiNGOUiN's translations were inaccurate. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 19:58, November 17, 2020 (EST) | |||
::Got the other ones as well. The Paper Macho enemies were inaccurate (too literal) and the items were often miscapitalized. I haven't been able to verify [[Axe]] or [[Whale]], but I'd assume they're correct, as they're named in other games as well. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 14:34, November 22, 2020 (EST) | |||
:::No, I left them out because it's a bit confusing for me to handle and translate non-Latin languages (plus I'm not sure how to distinguish "CNzh" and "TWzh"). From the JPja directory, Goomba Outlaw is <tt>ガンマンハリボテクリボー</tt> and Spike Outlaw is <tt>ガンマンハリボテガボン</tt>. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 15:39, November 25, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Big Shy Guy == | |||
Just to let you know, I saw you were considering a counterproposal to merge Big Shy Guy back to Mega Guy earlier this year, but since it's been a while since then I went ahead and [[Talk:Big Shy Guy#Merge Big Shy Guy back to Mega Guy|started one]]. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 11:32, November 18, 2020 (EST) | |||
:Thanks. I didn't have a good time to make proposals these past few months since I wasn't sure if I had the time to respond to comments while they were still active. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:22, November 18, 2020 (EST) | |||
== RE:Ground-Pound Switch == | |||
Nonetheless, it's still capitalized in both manuals (check page 18 of the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' manual and page 20 of the ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' manual). {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 17:34, January 18, 2021 (EST) | |||
:It's actually a recurring thing for most names on the wiki (such as with [[Pulse Beam]]), but we usually prefer the proper version of the name over the lowercase one. If you still disagree, you can talk to Porplemontage about it or start a proposal. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 17:48, January 18, 2021 (EST) | |||
::I still say the naming falls under priority exception. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 17:57, January 18, 2021 (EST) | |||
:::Regardless, I think there still needs to be a more centralized discussion on these kinds of capitalization before anything is really decided. Also, it's worth pointing out that "[[Spark pylon]]" is lowercase in the capture list in ''[[Super Mario Odyssey]]'', but is consistently capitalized in the game's Prima guide, so that gives us the opposite problem as well. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 18:32, January 18, 2021 (EST) | |||
::::Sure, I'll do it at my earliest convenience. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 21:43, January 18, 2021 (EST) | |||
== Official power-ups and enemy lists of a few select Super Mario games == | |||
Since I know this is a topic that interests you, [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/character/mario/characters/index.html Nintendo has opened on their Japanese Mario Portal a section listing the Mario power-ups and enemies of a few select ''Super Mario'' games]. While I think it will mostly mirror the content of the ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'', having a site directly maintained by Nintendo might come in handy as an up-to-date reference.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 04:01, January 19, 2021 (EST) | |||
:Interestingly (at a glance comparing entries like Small Piranha and Big Boo since I don't have my copy next to me) this aligns with Japanese ''Encyclopedia''! I assume this will be translated into other languages? It makes me somewhat pensive that an English version of the site would do the same with English ''Encyclopedia''. This is worth keeping an eye on as it develops. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 06:02, January 19, 2021 (EST) | |||
== Wario Land Piranha Plants == | |||
The ones described in the NP section are actually the game's Munchers. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:49, January 19, 2021 (EST) | |||
:Huh, I don't know how I didn't realize I was looking at Rice Beach, my bad. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 01:25, January 20, 2021 (EST) | |||