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 == RE: Hemispheres and equinoxes ==
-{{tem|released}} has one for Brazil if that's what you're asking, though I don't think a date has been released for ''M&S2020'' for that region. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 04:03, March 31, 2019 (EDT)
+{{tem|release}} has one for Brazil if that's what you're asking, though I don't think a date has been released for ''M&S2020'' for that region. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 04:03, March 31, 2019 (EDT)
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 I haven't heard of this before, so that's interesting! Page 38 has the 「ボム兵」 (''Bomuhei'') profile, which reads as follows:
-「<span class="explain" title="ある">歩</span>いている<span class="explain" title="すがた">姿</span>はかわいいが、<span class="explain" title="ひか">光</span>り<span class="explain" title="だ">出</span>すと<span class="explain" title="ようちゅうい">要注意</span>。<span class="explain" title="なかま">仲間</span>までぶっ<span class="explain" title="と">飛</span>ばすぞ。よーく<span class="explain" title="み">見</span>るとどこかで<span class="explain" title="み">見</span>たことがあるなぁ。」 (''Its walking is cute, but be very careful when it flashes. It even blows away companions. Take a nice look and you have seen it somewhere.'')
+「<span class="explain" title="ある">歩</span>いている<span class="explain" title="すがた">姿</span>はかわいいが、<span class="explain" title="ひか">光</span>り<span class="explain" title="だ">出</span>すと<span class="explain" title="ようちゅうい">要注意</span>。<span class="explain" title="なかま">仲間</span>までぶっ<span class="explain" title="と">飛</span>ばすぞ。よーく<span class="explain" title="み">見</span>るとどこかで<span class="explain" title="み">見</span>たことがあるなぁ。」 (''Its walking looks cute, but be very careful when it flashes. It even blows away companions. Take a nice look and you have seen it somewhere.'')
 It looks like the localization translated the first two sentences rather well, but instead of translating the third sentence and using a new name for the ''Mario'' franchise it opted to simplify it with the same name previously used in ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' to get the same point across (keep in mind that the game would be a few years away in Japan, so Bob-omb technically didn't appear in a ''Mario'' property there yet). That leaves the question of why ''Super Mario USA'' didn't also reuse the new name, but I presume that's for consistency with ''Doki Doki Panic'' since Japan wasn't nearly as coy about it being a rebranded ''Mario'' version of the same game at the time (it's even mentioned up-front on the [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/nes/525244-super-mario-bros-2/images/12912 back of the box]). Also note that the new ''Mario'' name may have been intentionally modeled after 「ヘイホー」  (''Heihō''), further hinting at the ''Yume Kōjō'' connection. I'm curious to find out if its ''Super Mario USA'' description changed from the ''Doki Doki Panic'' one in response. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:23, November 20, 2019 (EST)
+:Yes, the text seems closer to the keyless ones, although it pictures both types. The English version also mentions that it explodes "destroying everything around him" when the Japanese version specifically mentions its allies. I have news on the manual front though: Nintendo has PDFs available on their website, I believe uploaded for the Virtual Console and Classic Mini/Edition re-releases. Here they are chronologically, with some more thrown in for comparison:
+*''[https://www.gamingalexandria.com/fds/Doki%20Doki%20Panic/Doki%20Doki%20Panic%20-%20Manual.pdf Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic]''
+*''[https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAADE.pdf Super Mario Bros. 2]''
+*[https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/ja/pdf/CLV-P-HAACJ.pdf ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' (Japanese)]
+*[https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAACE.pdf ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' (American)]
+*''[https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/ja/pdf/CLV-P-HAADJ.pdf Super Mario USA]''
+*''[https://archive.org/details/supermariocollectionsfclq Super Mario Collection]''
+*''[https://www.gamesdatabase.org/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_SNES/Manual/formated/Super_Mario_All-Stars_-_1993_-_Nintendo.pdf Super Mario All-Stars]''
+*[https://ohp.nintendo.co.jp/data/software/manual/man_PAXJ_00.pdf ''Super Mario Advance'' (Japanese)]
+*[https://cdn02.nintendo-europe.com/media/downloads/games_8/emanuals/game_boy_advance_8/Manual_GameBoyAdvance_SuperMarioAdvance_EN_DE_FR_ES_IT.pdf ''Super Mario Advance'' (European)]
+*''[https://www.nintendo.com/consumer/downloads/manual-wii_supermarioallstars.pdf Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition]
+:Note that pages for ''Doki Doki Panic'' are out of order, which is presume is because it was scanned unstapled for some reason, and I couldn't find the ''Super Mario Collection Special Pack'' manual. It strikes me that the layout is a bit different in the ''Super Mario USA'' manual next to previous versions, and that they have begun to recolor the artwork even before ''All-Stars'' (note Princess's earrings). Interestingly, only ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' lists all of the enemies; ''Doki Doki Panic'' is missing a handful (though it adds a gray Shy Guy) and ''Super Mario USA'' leaves out even more, and ''Collection'' and ''All-Stars Limited Edition'' have a similar lineup to the latter; while some of the descriptions are slightly different, Bob-omb is one of the enemies left out of Japanese manuals after ''Doki Doki Panic'', only mentioned with Albatoss. Anyway, if you need help finding more Japanese manuals and guides online since they're generally less preserved, I can say that it's at least simple enough to search a lot of them up on Nintendo's servers or, failing that, the Internet Archive. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:03, November 21, 2019 (EST)
+==RE:"Mario's old friend"==
+But "friend" implies a stronger relationship. Then again, it's only Wario's claim. Wario would never admit his shortcomings in comparison to Mario, but he does recognize them, so he tries to convince others that Mario is (at most) on the same level as him. He may be trying to hide his own jealousy with "Oh yeah, that Mario guy. We're pals--good pals. He's totally never left me in the dust since childhood because he was the more popular kid or something". {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 17:40, November 27, 2019 (EST)
+:True, guess I got too excited for a piece of information that was new to me and didn't have the brains to check it elsewhere. Still... don't you find it weird how in most of these texts, it's only Wario who calls Mario a friend? Mario seems suspiciously impartial. He knows that their friendship couldn't have possibly held on due to their differences. Which is sad, but I'm glad both grew to be successful in their own way.
+:... OK, enough of this soap, I'll sign out now. {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 18:34, November 27, 2019 (EST)