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'''''Bowser''' Talk sub-pages: [[Talk:Bowser/Special Move Set]].'' | '''''Bowser''' Talk sub-pages: [[Talk:Bowser/Special Move Set]].'' | ||
==Bowser vs. Koopa== | ==Bowser vs. Koopa== | ||
i think it should be noted that there is much controversy in the mario fan community about bowser and king koopa being different ppl. personally i think the differences are quite easy to spot--[[User:Valf|Valf]] 10:36, 15 May 2006 (EDT) | i think it should be noted that there is much controversy in the mario fan community about bowser and king koopa being different ppl. personally i think the differences are quite easy to spot--[[User:Valf|Valf]] 10:36, 15 May 2006 (EDT) | ||
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::I would argue that Koopa is his last name, even in Japan (similar to what was done with Peach / Toadstool in SM64). After all, why else would he say "the royal Koopa line" in Sunshine if Koopas aren't the name of the species in the Japanese version? That might be nitpicking since the voice acting is catered more towards the English audience than the Japanese one, but since things are generally spoken universal I think it's sufficient proof. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 19:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC) | ::I would argue that Koopa is his last name, even in Japan (similar to what was done with Peach / Toadstool in SM64). After all, why else would he say "the royal Koopa line" in Sunshine if Koopas aren't the name of the species in the Japanese version? That might be nitpicking since the voice acting is catered more towards the English audience than the Japanese one, but since things are generally spoken universal I think it's sufficient proof. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 19:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC) | ||
What's the difference between Bowser and King Koopa? They're the same people. {{unsigned|Pieface}} | |||
==Species== | ==Species== | ||
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:Not to shoot down your thesis, but we have no place for speculation on the Wiki. If you can find more evidence to support your theory, we could add that in. {{User:Knife/sig}} 19:06, 27 October 2008 (EDT) | :Not to shoot down your thesis, but we have no place for speculation on the Wiki. If you can find more evidence to support your theory, we could add that in. {{User:Knife/sig}} 19:06, 27 October 2008 (EDT) | ||
I personally think that [[Madame Clairvoya]] was referring to another where Mario defeated Bowser and she did not think that Bowser would come back. Image: | I personally think that [[Madame Clairvoya]] was referring to another where Mario defeated Bowser and she did not think that Bowser would come back. Image:SPP Beta - Lemmy Animation.gif [[User:Lemmy Koopa Fan]] [[Image:SPP Beta - Lemmy Animation.gif]] | ||
:Possibly (Bowser dies a lot; NSMB has a lovely in-game example, and many other titles, such as the original SMB, seem to deal him violent ends as well)... But we still can't put any of it down in the article. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:33, 26 April 2009 (EDT) | :Possibly (Bowser dies a lot; NSMB has a lovely in-game example, and many other titles, such as the original SMB, seem to deal him violent ends as well)... But we still can't put any of it down in the article. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:33, 26 April 2009 (EDT) | ||
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==Bowser's Wife???== | ==Bowser's Wife???== | ||
Does anyone here think that Bowser really does have a wife? For example, perhaps Clawdia Koopa wasn't a joke. I came up with this this theory because Bowser can't have kids if he doesn't have a wife. [[Image: | Does anyone here think that Bowser really does have a wife? For example, perhaps Clawdia Koopa wasn't a joke. I came up with this this theory because Bowser can't have kids if he doesn't have a wife. [[Image:SPP Beta - Lemmy Animation.gif]] [[User:Lemmy Koopa Fan]] [[Image:SPP Beta - Lemmy Animation.gif]] | ||
:They could always be adopted. Anyway, for now [[List of Implied Characters#Clawdia Koopa|Clawdia]]'s only included on the Wiki as an implied character because she was only mentioned and never shown; the nature of the whole ''Nintendo Power UK'' article suggests it was a joke, so that possibility must be included as well. Until we hear anything more about Bowser's wife, that's the most we can do. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:45, 26 April 2009 (EDT) | :They could always be adopted. Anyway, for now [[List of Implied Characters#Clawdia Koopa|Clawdia]]'s only included on the Wiki as an implied character because she was only mentioned and never shown; the nature of the whole ''Nintendo Power UK'' article suggests it was a joke, so that possibility must be included as well. Until we hear anything more about Bowser's wife, that's the most we can do. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:45, 26 April 2009 (EDT) | ||
Oh, right. I never thought about it that way. But there's still no solid proof... [[Image: | Oh, right. I never thought about it that way. But there's still no solid proof... [[Image:SPP Beta - Lemmy Animation.gif]] [[User:Lemmy Koopa Fan]] [[Image:SPP Beta - Lemmy Animation.gif]] | ||
==Bowser's name== | ==Bowser's name== | ||
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::::The only thing I've officially ever heard in the same statement is "Bowser, King of the Koopas." I've emailed Nintendo of America, and they don't even know themselves, so... I don't think this is going anywhere until they can make a statement once and for all. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 10:12, 9 November 2009 (EST) | ::::The only thing I've officially ever heard in the same statement is "Bowser, King of the Koopas." I've emailed Nintendo of America, and they don't even know themselves, so... I don't think this is going anywhere until they can make a statement once and for all. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 10:12, 9 November 2009 (EST) | ||
:::::I just want to cite one source that's slightly more reliable than "Ignorance is Bliss"; [[Sneaky Lying Cheating Giant Ninja Koopas]], in which Mario refers to Bowser as "Bowser Koopa." {{User:Dodoman/sig}} 00:54, 15 November 2009 (EST) | :::::I just want to cite one source that's slightly more reliable than "Ignorance is Bliss"; [[Sneaky Lying Cheating Giant Ninja Koopas]], in which Mario refers to Bowser as "Bowser Koopa." {{User:Dodoman/sig}} 00:54, 15 November 2009 (EST) | ||
::::::Awesome point, Nimrodo.{{User:KoopaMan/sig}} 17:26, 22 December 2011 (EST) | |||
:::::::That was a dead, two-year-old conversation that had been somewhat resolved. Please don't revive old topics just to state something unnecessary. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} | |||
==NSMBW Art== | ==NSMBW Art== | ||
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THE dark spin article got deleted completely, and theres no trace of the article on this article.can someone add a section about Dark Spin? {{unsigned|Kirby9612}} | THE dark spin article got deleted completely, and theres no trace of the article on this article.can someone add a section about Dark Spin? {{unsigned|Kirby9612}} | ||
Dark Spin is basically the same as his shockwave attack, which is mentioned in the article. [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 16:43, 13 June 2011 (EDT) | :Dark Spin is basically the same as his shockwave attack, which is mentioned in the article. [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 16:43, 13 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
==[[Mario Bros.]] Battle== | ==[[Mario Bros.]] Battle== | ||
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:I haven't played Super Paper Mario in a while but he might attack like that when you fight him or it could be a beta element {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}} | :I haven't played Super Paper Mario in a while but he might attack like that when you fight him or it could be a beta element {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}} | ||
::It might be a beta element because none of his attacks are like that when you battle him. {{User:YoshiGo99/sig}} | ::It might be a beta element because none of his attacks are like that when you battle him. {{User:YoshiGo99/sig}} | ||
== Unneeded Comma == | |||
I noticed that there's an unneeded comma in this article. "repeatedly, kidnapped" should be "repeatedly kidnapped". I think.--[[User:LuigiIsAwesome|LuigiIsAwesome]] 16:08, 5 October 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Stuff like that you can just edit. It's bigger things like rewriting sections that you should post here first. But I'm not going to lie to you, most of the time nobody does anything about it. [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 18:24, 10 November 2011 (EST) | |||
==Split Bowser X from Bowser== | |||
{{SettledTPP}} | |||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|2-12|Don't Split}} | |||
Can I please ask why these two are together? They have different names, X has stronger HP, and different stats. My point being they're different people, so again I ask; why are they together? This might be a little short, but it's because the fact that they're different entities is a simple reason that I really don't need to elaborate. | |||
'''Proposer''': {{User|SpongeBlobby}}<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': January 3, 2012, 23:59 GMT | |||
===Split=== | |||
#{{User|SpongeBlobby}} Well it's MY proposal. | |||
#{{User|Toad85}} Believe it or not, I'm for this. It's a different character. | |||
===Don't Split=== | |||
#{{User|Bop1996}} All the other X form bosses are merged because all differ slightly and are more of a powered-up form than a different boss. | |||
#{{User|ThePremiumYoshi}} - I think it's just fine to keep Bowser X in the Bowser's article. There's not many differences, not even cosmetic. Per Bop1996. | |||
#{{User|Baby Mario Bloops}} - The X form of the bosses are just basically slightly harder bosses. Other than that, they are basically the same. Especially Bowser X, as it is the same color as regular Bowser. | |||
#{{User|Tails777}} Per all | |||
#{{User|M&SG}} - There really isn't a reason to split the two. Bowser X is basically the same as Bowser, but only harder. | |||
#{{User|New Super Yoshi}} Bowser X is most likely Bowser himself. Per All. | |||
#{{User|RandomYoshi}} - Per ThePremiumYoshi and New Super Yoshi. | |||
#{{User|Luigirules33}} - Per all. | |||
#{{User|Spidey665}} - Per M&SG and Baby Mario Bloops. | |||
#{{User|B.wilson}} – Per all. | |||
#{{User|Lord Grammaticus}} - Per all, especially BMB. | |||
#{{User|Lakituthequick}} Per all | |||
===Comments=== | |||
The deadline was wrong and you forgot to list your TPP on the proposals page. Please be more careful about setting up a proposal next time. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 12:23, 21 December 2011 (EST) | |||
@M&SG and New Super Yoshi:Then how come you battle Bowser X INSIDE BOWSER?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!{{User:KoopaMan/sig}} 17:14, 22 December 2011 (EST) | |||
:To answer your question, Bowser X is Bowser, but sort of not. It is mostly a merge duplicate by the Challenge Node to test the bros' strength. Basically, it's the real Bowser copied to be inside his body to face the Mario Bros. Hard to explain, but they are basically the same. The same goes for the other X bosses as well. {{User|Baby Mario Bloops}} | |||
== Paper Mario Image == | |||
The image for Bowser in the Paper Mario Bestiary and on this page are different. One of them should be changed to match with the other. Furthermore, the one on this page seems to be box art, which should be changed if the case. If it is a sprite, it doesn't seem to be from a battle, which should be added. Thank you for any help in the matter. [[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 17:43, 3 February 2012 (EST) | |||
== Character Infobox Image Change == | |||
{{SettledTPP}} | |||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|9-0|support}} | |||
Ever since ''Fortune Street'' was released, I was wondering why we haven't changed the artwork to use for the character infobox. I'm basically proposing that at this point, we use Bowser's artwork from ''Fortune Street''. | |||
<gallery> | |||
File:FortuneStBowser.png|''Fortune Street'' artwork. | |||
</gallery> | |||
'''Proposer''': {{User|M&SG}}<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': April 10, 2012 23:59 GMT | |||
===Use ''Fortune Street'' artwork=== | |||
#{{User|M&SG}} - Per my proposal. | |||
#{{User|Tails777}} Per M&SG. | |||
#{{User|YoshiGo99}} | |||
#{{User|Pichi-Hime6}} | |||
#{{User|YoshiKong}} It's more exiting artwork! | |||
#{{User|Lakituthequick}} Per M&SG. | |||
#{{User|Super Famicom 64}} – As that game was released '''many weeks ago''', we should update the artwork. | |||
#{{User|Commander Code-8}} All the other major charcetrs have the same thing happening | |||
#{{User|Toad85}} I don't really see the point of changing it, but it just looks better anyway. | |||
===Stay with ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' artwork=== | |||
===Comments=== | |||
Well, It's the newest game :/. We should change the artwork to the newest game every time a new game comes out, right? | |||
--{{User:Pichi-Hime6/sig}} 16:59, 27 March 2012 (EDT) | |||
:Agreed! --{{User|YoshiKong}} | |||
::But what if a reuses an artwork, like Mario Party 9 reused Bowser's artwork from Super Mario Galaxy.{{User|New Super Yoshi}} | |||
Then we keep it.--[[File:Yoshi MP4.png|35px]][[User:Yoshidude99|Yoshidude99]] 12:00, 29 March 2012 (EDT) | |||