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==Quotes== | ==Quotes== | ||
Can someone please put more quotes? Thank you! [[User:Greentoad|Greentoad]] | Can someone please put more quotes? Thank you! [[User:Greentoad|Greentoad]] | ||
==Merging this article== | ==Merging this article== | ||
After observing the edit history of the [[Game Guy's Sweet Surprise]] article, I found that [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] had mentioned the [[Spike Koopa]] article as a separate article for a character that only appears in a single minigame. After thinking about this, I now believe that the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp do indeed warrant their own character article; it wouldn't be redundant because the more detailed mechanics of Game Guy's Sweet Surprise are explained in the minigame's own article. However, should the quotes and the gallery from the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp article also be displayed in the Game Guy's Sweet Surprise article? The quotes technically also qualify as in-game text, and the icons of the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp appear in the minigame itself. --[[User:ThePowerPlayer|ThePowerPlayer]] ([[User talk:ThePowerPlayer|talk]]) 20:56, August 9, 2022 (EDT) | After observing the edit history of the [[Game Guy's Sweet Surprise]] article, I found that [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] had mentioned the [[Spike Koopa]] article as a separate article for a character that only appears in a single minigame. After thinking about this, I now believe that the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp do indeed warrant their own character article; it wouldn't be redundant because the more detailed mechanics of Game Guy's Sweet Surprise are explained in the minigame's own article. However, should the quotes and the gallery from the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp article also be displayed in the Game Guy's Sweet Surprise article? The quotes technically also qualify as in-game text, and the icons of the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp appear in the minigame itself. --[[User:ThePowerPlayer|ThePowerPlayer]] ([[User talk:ThePowerPlayer|talk]]) 20:56, August 9, 2022 (EDT) | ||
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:::"Language of origin." I prefer to separate ''Yoshi''-debuting "Biggu" enemies from the standard large fare since, for instance, [[Big Piranha Plant|Kyodai/Dai/Deka Pakkun]] and [[Naval Piranha|Biggu Pakkun]] are officially treated as distinct. The fact that "Biggu Wanwan" was kept for YNI despite contemporary games using "Deka Wanwan" leads me to believe they are still considered distinct ("Biggu" seems reserved for ''really'' big things here). A full merge is still an option, though. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:34, August 10, 2022 (EDT) | :::"Language of origin." I prefer to separate ''Yoshi''-debuting "Biggu" enemies from the standard large fare since, for instance, [[Big Piranha Plant|Kyodai/Dai/Deka Pakkun]] and [[Naval Piranha|Biggu Pakkun]] are officially treated as distinct. The fact that "Biggu Wanwan" was kept for YNI despite contemporary games using "Deka Wanwan" leads me to believe they are still considered distinct ("Biggu" seems reserved for ''really'' big things here). A full merge is still an option, though. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:34, August 10, 2022 (EDT) | ||
::::While the trend of "Biggu" being reserved for enormous enemies such as [[Chomp Shark|Biggu Wanwan]] and [[Naval Piranha|Biggu Pakkun]] does point to those enemies being distinct, it's also more evidence that the Big Chomp, while sharing the same Japanese name as Chomp Sharks, is more closely related to either a Big Chain Chomp or a regular Chain Chomp: the Big Chomp is not enormous, it's only a little larger than the Little Chomp, and in fact barely any larger than Game Guy. Additionally, both the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp are already described in the [[Chain Chomp]] article. Therefore, my suggestion would be that the summary of the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp article should be moved to the ''[[Mario Party 3]]'' section of the Chain Chomp article (with a sentence or two describing how the Big Chomp's name is the same name used for Chomp Sharks), and the Quotes and Gallery sections should be moved to the Game Guy's Sweet Surprise article (the quotes can also be listed under [[List of Mario Party 3 quotes|List of ''Mario Party 3'' quotes]], and the gallery images can also appear in [[Gallery:Chain Chomp]] and [[Gallery: Mario Party 3|Gallery: ''Mario Party 3'']]. --[[User:ThePowerPlayer|ThePowerPlayer]] ([[User talk:ThePowerPlayer|talk]]) 21:52, August 10, 2022 (EDT) | ::::While the trend of "Biggu" being reserved for enormous enemies such as [[Chomp Shark|Biggu Wanwan]] and [[Naval Piranha|Biggu Pakkun]] does point to those enemies being distinct, it's also more evidence that the Big Chomp, while sharing the same Japanese name as Chomp Sharks, is more closely related to either a Big Chain Chomp or a regular Chain Chomp: the Big Chomp is not enormous, it's only a little larger than the Little Chomp, and in fact barely any larger than Game Guy. Additionally, both the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp are already described in the [[Chain Chomp]] article. Therefore, my suggestion would be that the summary of the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp article should be moved to the ''[[Mario Party 3]]'' section of the Chain Chomp article (with a sentence or two describing how the Big Chomp's name is the same name used for Chomp Sharks), and the Quotes and Gallery sections should be moved to the Game Guy's Sweet Surprise article (the quotes can also be listed under [[List of Mario Party 3 quotes|List of ''Mario Party 3'' quotes]], and the gallery images can also appear in [[Gallery:Chain Chomp]] and [[Gallery: Mario Party 3|Gallery: ''Mario Party 3'']]. --[[User:ThePowerPlayer|ThePowerPlayer]] ([[User talk:ThePowerPlayer|talk]]) 21:52, August 10, 2022 (EDT) | ||
==Merge this article with the ''Mario Party 3'' section of the Chain Chomp article== | |||
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In my opinion, having a separate article about the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp are unnecessary, as they are two generic [[Chain Chomp]]s that only appear in a single minigame ([[Game Guy's Sweet Surprise]]) in a single game (''[[Mario Party 3]]''), and they only receive distinct names through a single quote from [[Game Guy]]; therefore, any information about the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp should be moved to the [[Chain Chomp#Mario Party 3|''Mario Party 3'' section]] of the Chain Chomp article, so as to avoid reiterating the [[Game Guy's Sweet Surprise]] article in the [[Big Chomp and Little Chomp]] article (the quotes from the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp would be better suited under the "In-game text" header of the Game Guy's Sweet Surprise article). [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] has pointed out that separate articles do exist for characters that only appear in a single minigame, such as [[Spike Koopa]], while [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] has explained how the original Japanese name for the Big Chomp ("Biggu Wanwan") suggests that even if we were to merge the article, information about the Big Chomp should be under the [[Chomp Shark]] article. However, in this case, the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp are not unique characters like Spiked Koopas, nor do they have as many similarities to Chomp Sharks as regular Chain Chomps; they are both simply Chain Chomps attached to chains, while Chomp Sharks are extremely large and chainless. Additionally, although [[Big Chain Chomp]] also refers to especially large Chain Chomps, the Big Chomp isn't especially large (it's barely larger than Game Guy), and the term "the Big Chomp" has already been used to describe the generic Chain Chomp from ''Super Mario 64'' and ''Super Mario 64 DS'', which does not have a separate article from other generic Chain Chomps. Since the Japanese name for the Little Chomp is "Wanwan", or simply "Chain Chomp", I find that this is enough evidence for both the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp to be described in the regular Chain Chomp article. | |||
'''Proposer''': {{User|ThePowerPlayer}}<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': August 25, 2022, 23:59 GMT | |||
===Merge with ''Mario Party 3'' section of Chain Chomp article=== | |||
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per proposal. | |||
===Merge the Big Chomp with Big Chain Chomp and the Little Chomp with Chain Chomp=== | |||
===Merge the Big Chomp with Chomp Shark and the Little Chomp with Chain Chomp=== | |||
===Keep separate article about the Big Chomp and the Little Chomp=== | |||
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