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even before i regged, i still remember these proposals. i was lurking here for some time
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(even before i regged, i still remember these proposals. i was lurking here for some time)
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===Poll Selection Page===
===Poll Selection Page===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">REORGANIZE 7-0</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0|reorganize}}
 
I looked at the Poll selection page, and I have to admit something: It is a disaster. So here is what I am proposing: We clean it up. To get more into detail:
I looked at the Poll selection page, and I have to admit something: It is a disaster. So here is what I am proposing: We clean it up. To get more into detail:
*We have it split into multiple pages with 25 suggested polls on each page <nowiki>(In example, we have MarioWiki:Poll Selection/Page1, MarioWiki:Poll Selection/Page2, and so forth. We can link them together with a table like on the Proposals Archive, for example. </nowiki>
*We have it split into multiple pages with 25 suggested polls on each page <nowiki>(In example, we have MarioWiki:Poll Selection/Page1, MarioWiki:Poll Selection/Page2, and so forth. We can link them together with a table like on the Proposals Archive, for example. </nowiki>
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===Enforce No-Signature Policy===
===Enforce No-Signature Policy===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">ADD NEW RULES 3-0</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|3-0|add new rules}}
 
I feel that the "No-Signature Policy" on many of the pages around the wiki have been utterly violated. Many of the users like to use the "letter of the law" technique as opposed to the "spirit of the law", which, in other scenarios, is okay, but is '''not''' good to this policy. Due to many pages that feature the "No-Signature Policy" having limited space, they cannot touch upon the many ideas that were originally expressed when this "policy" went into enactment. As of such, as I stated earlier, many users dodge the rules (see the second bullet in my above proposal about the Poll Selection page). As of such, I would like to create one page that has detailed rules on the subject, and that could be linked to pages that share these many ideas. The page, if created, would most likely be titled '''<nowiki>MarioWiki:No-Signature Policy</nowiki>'''. A rough draft of my proposed page can be located [[User:Super Mario Bros./No-Sig|here]].
I feel that the "No-Signature Policy" on many of the pages around the wiki have been utterly violated. Many of the users like to use the "letter of the law" technique as opposed to the "spirit of the law", which, in other scenarios, is okay, but is '''not''' good to this policy. Due to many pages that feature the "No-Signature Policy" having limited space, they cannot touch upon the many ideas that were originally expressed when this "policy" went into enactment. As of such, as I stated earlier, many users dodge the rules (see the second bullet in my above proposal about the Poll Selection page). As of such, I would like to create one page that has detailed rules on the subject, and that could be linked to pages that share these many ideas. The page, if created, would most likely be titled '''<nowiki>MarioWiki:No-Signature Policy</nowiki>'''. A rough draft of my proposed page can be located [[User:Super Mario Bros./No-Sig|here]].


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===Article censorship===
===Article censorship===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">NO CENSORING 12-0</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|12-0|no censoring}}
 
I want to settle this once and for all.  Do we want to censor the Bob Hoskins article or not?
I want to settle this once and for all.  Do we want to censor the Bob Hoskins article or not?


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===Update One After Another===
===Update One After Another===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DO NOT UPDATE ONE AFTER ANOTHER 4-8</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|4-8|do not update one after another}}
 
I propose that everything on the main page like featured article, featured image, poll, and did you know sections should all be updated between one hour to one day after another, it doesn't really matter in what order they should be in, just as long as they are updated, and there time limit should be one week of staying in the main page, Mario news and proposal section should be the only exceptions. I said this because one time the "did you know" section, it had the same three trivias stayed there for about three months and like six months ago on the poll section it didn't work on some computers. The main page is sometimes confusing to keep track of even if your'e a user or just a visitor to the site, so that is why I came up with this idea.
I propose that everything on the main page like featured article, featured image, poll, and did you know sections should all be updated between one hour to one day after another, it doesn't really matter in what order they should be in, just as long as they are updated, and there time limit should be one week of staying in the main page, Mario news and proposal section should be the only exceptions. I said this because one time the "did you know" section, it had the same three trivias stayed there for about three months and like six months ago on the poll section it didn't work on some computers. The main page is sometimes confusing to keep track of even if your'e a user or just a visitor to the site, so that is why I came up with this idea.


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===No Signature Policy on FA Pages===
===No Signature Policy on FA Pages===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">APPLY NO SIGNATURE POLICY TO FA PAGES 7-0</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0|apply no signature policy to fa pages}}
 
OK, I'm pretty nervous, this is my first proposal and I have no idea how to do it. I've asked [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] and I think she explained it well so bear with me. I think that the proposals for featured articles and proposals to unfeature articles are very good and put power even in the hands of the users and for this, I commend whoever helped make it. The only problem with this system (according to me) is the fact that those pages do not observe the no-signature policy. When I look at the [[MarioWiki:Featured Articles/N/Luigi#support|nomination for Luigi]], I see a giant mess of names and pictures which really distracts me from the point of the page. If we could just add the rule that the page follows the no-signature policy then we could follow some of the most important parts of the wiki, '''without''' getting a headache. I know this may inconvenience several users but you can show your signature off on <small>almost</small> every single page on the wiki! Why does it have to be on an FA page.  
OK, I'm pretty nervous, this is my first proposal and I have no idea how to do it. I've asked [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] and I think she explained it well so bear with me. I think that the proposals for featured articles and proposals to unfeature articles are very good and put power even in the hands of the users and for this, I commend whoever helped make it. The only problem with this system (according to me) is the fact that those pages do not observe the no-signature policy. When I look at the [[MarioWiki:Featured Articles/N/Luigi#support|nomination for Luigi]], I see a giant mess of names and pictures which really distracts me from the point of the page. If we could just add the rule that the page follows the no-signature policy then we could follow some of the most important parts of the wiki, '''without''' getting a headache. I know this may inconvenience several users but you can show your signature off on <small>almost</small> every single page on the wiki! Why does it have to be on an FA page.  


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===More Than A Joke===
===More Than A Joke===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DO NOT ALLOW FAKE "NEW MESSAGES" BOXES 9-6</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|9-6|do not allow fake "new messages" boxes}}
 
Over on Bulbapedia, they've recently created a rule that doesn't allow the fake "new messages" box template. And I think we should have that rule too.
Over on Bulbapedia, they've recently created a rule that doesn't allow the fake "new messages" box template. And I think we should have that rule too.
It was OK to start off with, but it's like that "Uranus" joke- IT'S GETTING OLD, VERY ANNOYING AND NOT EVEN REMOTELY FUNNY!
It was OK to start off with, but it's like that "Uranus" joke- IT'S GETTING OLD, VERY ANNOYING AND NOT EVEN REMOTELY FUNNY!
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===The Subspace Emissary===
===The Subspace Emissary===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">MAKE SEPARATE ARTICLE FOR SUBSPACE EMISSARY 6-0</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|6-0|make separate article for subspace emissary}}
 
The Subspce Emissary needs its own article. It would be good because the [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]] article is SO long.
The Subspce Emissary needs its own article. It would be good because the [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]] article is SO long.


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===Upcoming Tournaments===
===Upcoming Tournaments===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">ADD UPCOMING TOURNAMENTS TO MAIN PAGE 12-0</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|12-0|add upcoming tournaments to main page}}
 
The wiki has suffered greatly when it comes to user tournaments, either they are cancelled due to inactive leadership or not enough participants. The latter is likely because many users have no idea a Tourney's going on! I propose something like this under "help us Maintain This Page":
The wiki has suffered greatly when it comes to user tournaments, either they are cancelled due to inactive leadership or not enough participants. The latter is likely because many users have no idea a Tourney's going on! I propose something like this under "help us Maintain This Page":


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===Amend No-Signature Policy===
===Amend No-Signature Policy===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DO NOT ALLOW S.W.A.S 7-0</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0|do not allow s.w.a.s}}
 
Ok, I guess I'll be the first to propose to amend the No-Signature Policy. I have looked around and have already seen an incident happen when it came across signing: A particular system of signing that is often referred to as '''Signing Without a Signature (S.W.A.S.)'''. I would like to propose the question: For pages that follow the ''[[MarioWiki:No-Signature Policy|No-Signature]]'' policy, do we allow "S.W.A.S.", or do we not allow it?
Ok, I guess I'll be the first to propose to amend the No-Signature Policy. I have looked around and have already seen an incident happen when it came across signing: A particular system of signing that is often referred to as '''Signing Without a Signature (S.W.A.S.)'''. I would like to propose the question: For pages that follow the ''[[MarioWiki:No-Signature Policy|No-Signature]]'' policy, do we allow "S.W.A.S.", or do we not allow it?


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===Ask A Sysop===
===Ask A Sysop===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">NO SUCH SECTION 1-8</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-8|no such section}}
 
Whenever someone has a question, the first person the ask is...a sysop!  However, sometimes, the certain sysop isn't available.  The wiki should have an "Ask A Sysop" section where people could post a question and a sysop would answer it.  This would be much easier than the tedious process of going from talk page to talk page to post your question.
Whenever someone has a question, the first person the ask is...a sysop!  However, sometimes, the certain sysop isn't available.  The wiki should have an "Ask A Sysop" section where people could post a question and a sysop would answer it.  This would be much easier than the tedious process of going from talk page to talk page to post your question.


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===Split Missions From Galaxy Articles===
===Split Missions From Galaxy Articles===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">NO EXTRA ARTICLES FOR ''GALAXY'' MISSIONS 4-9</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|4-9|no extra articles for ''galaxy'' missions}}
 
I think that we should split '''all''' of the Super Mario Galaxy missions from their respective galaxy levels. I have started a [[PipeProject:Star & Shine Missions|PipeProject]] that could help improve the stub articles that would be created, such as adding more in-depth explanations and descriptions about the mission, which planets are traveled to during the mission, creating more specific templates and adding them to the articles, adding/uploading images specific to that level, etc. We could make good articles out of these, but I need community permission before I start splitting a ton of information from the articles. An example of one of these proposed level pages can be found over [[PipeProject:Star & Shine Missions/ProposalsExample|here]].
I think that we should split '''all''' of the Super Mario Galaxy missions from their respective galaxy levels. I have started a [[PipeProject:Star & Shine Missions|PipeProject]] that could help improve the stub articles that would be created, such as adding more in-depth explanations and descriptions about the mission, which planets are traveled to during the mission, creating more specific templates and adding them to the articles, adding/uploading images specific to that level, etc. We could make good articles out of these, but I need community permission before I start splitting a ton of information from the articles. An example of one of these proposed level pages can be found over [[PipeProject:Star & Shine Missions/ProposalsExample|here]].


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===FAQ transformation===
===FAQ transformation===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DO NOT REMAKE FAQ 6-9</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|6-9|do not remake faq}}
 
OK, let's see, my second proposal, totally random section and the vote count is already 3-1. Anyways here is the proposal: I think the FAQ page is basically a large thing where users can read questions that they all ready know the answers to. On the FAQ talk page we have asking questions. I ask, why don't we put proposals on the Proposal ''talk'' page or FI noms on the FI ''talk'' page, why do we put it on the main page? I'll answer myself, because it's easier. Since it's easier, I propose we change the old FAQ into my new version (see [[User:Marioguy1/Mariowiki:FAQ|here]]) so that users can actually ask their questions on the real Mariowikispace page!
OK, let's see, my second proposal, totally random section and the vote count is already 3-1. Anyways here is the proposal: I think the FAQ page is basically a large thing where users can read questions that they all ready know the answers to. On the FAQ talk page we have asking questions. I ask, why don't we put proposals on the Proposal ''talk'' page or FI noms on the FI ''talk'' page, why do we put it on the main page? I'll answer myself, because it's easier. Since it's easier, I propose we change the old FAQ into my new version (see [[User:Marioguy1/Mariowiki:FAQ|here]]) so that users can actually ask their questions on the real Mariowikispace page!


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===Remove Quote of the Day from the main page===
===Remove Quote of the Day from the main page===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">REMOVE 21-4</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|21-4|remove}}
 
Quote of the Day uses a processor heavy combination of the &lt;choose&gt; and &lt;DPL&gt; tags that increases loading time significantly. In my tests, it took an average of 7 seconds longer to load the page with QOTD than without, but compare for yourself [[User:Twentytwofiftyseven/mainpage2|here]] and [[User:Twentytwofiftyseven/mainpage|here]]. Other than those seven seconds, I don't see that it adds much to the page. It could be moved to a dedicated page, if people still want to use it.
Quote of the Day uses a processor heavy combination of the &lt;choose&gt; and &lt;DPL&gt; tags that increases loading time significantly. In my tests, it took an average of 7 seconds longer to load the page with QOTD than without, but compare for yourself [[User:Twentytwofiftyseven/mainpage2|here]] and [[User:Twentytwofiftyseven/mainpage|here]]. Other than those seven seconds, I don't see that it adds much to the page. It could be moved to a dedicated page, if people still want to use it.


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===Remove Featured Image Template From Main Page===
===Remove Featured Image Template From Main Page===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">KEEP TEMPLATE 5-12</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|5-12|keep template}}
 
Well, I'm am removing my other proposal and replacing it with this. Although I don't think we should get rid of the F.I. completely, I think that we should instead put it on the 'Shroom, which I would be glad to put it under my section ([[The 'Shroom:Music & Artwork Team|The Music & Artwork Team]]). We could still have the voting, and we could possibly link to the voting page on the sidebar, but it should go off of the Main Page (it will reduce loading time as well as get rid of some of the clutter on the Main Page). A link to what the page would look like after can be found [[User:Super Mario Bros./Main Page|here]].
Well, I'm am removing my other proposal and replacing it with this. Although I don't think we should get rid of the F.I. completely, I think that we should instead put it on the 'Shroom, which I would be glad to put it under my section ([[The 'Shroom:Music & Artwork Team|The Music & Artwork Team]]). We could still have the voting, and we could possibly link to the voting page on the sidebar, but it should go off of the Main Page (it will reduce loading time as well as get rid of some of the clutter on the Main Page). A link to what the page would look like after can be found [[User:Super Mario Bros./Main Page|here]].


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===Regularly Update News Page===
===Regularly Update News Page===
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">ALLOW MORE "MINOR" NEWS ON THE TEMPLATE 25-0</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|25-0|add more "minor" news on the template}}
 
Every time I log onto the wiki, one of the first things I do is check the News section of the Main Page, along with the rest of the page. As I write this, on the 14th of August, the top headline is '''''[[Mario Clock]]'' and ''[[Mario Calculator (DSiWare)|Mario Calculator]]'' were released for [[DSiWare]] in Europe and Australia on July 3 and in North America on June 15, 2009.''' Wow, that sure was helpful, forty days ago! On other wikis, even minor news such as tidbits of info about upcoming games/shows/movies etc. is placed in the News template, yet we're stuck with information about a DSi feature released in July. I propose that minor news, such as information relating to an event in ''Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games'' or another trailer for ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' being released, for example, be placed in the News template before it becomes a joke.
Every time I log onto the wiki, one of the first things I do is check the News section of the Main Page, along with the rest of the page. As I write this, on the 14th of August, the top headline is '''''[[Mario Clock]]'' and ''[[Mario Calculator (DSiWare)|Mario Calculator]]'' were released for [[DSiWare]] in Europe and Australia on July 3 and in North America on June 15, 2009.''' Wow, that sure was helpful, forty days ago! On other wikis, even minor news such as tidbits of info about upcoming games/shows/movies etc. is placed in the News template, yet we're stuck with information about a DSi feature released in July. I propose that minor news, such as information relating to an event in ''Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games'' or another trailer for ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' being released, for example, be placed in the News template before it becomes a joke.


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===Make a to- do list on the main page===
===Make a to- do list on the main page===
<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%;text-transform:uppercase;">proposal removed</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|canceled}}
 
Over on Bulbapedia, they have a specific box on their main page that tells users what needs to be done, what are some featured stubs, and articles that need to be created. I think we should have something like this that everyone can use. I am proposing this because I am noticing lots of articles that have big pieces of information missing or needed, and some of their talk pages haven't been used for so long, it would be silly to put something there when nobody checks them regularly. The to-do list would tell everyone that visits the main page what we need and I think it would be a big help finding everyone something to do. (For those of you that are reading this, please check out SMB's proposal below mine.)
Over on Bulbapedia, they have a specific box on their main page that tells users what needs to be done, what are some featured stubs, and articles that need to be created. I think we should have something like this that everyone can use. I am proposing this because I am noticing lots of articles that have big pieces of information missing or needed, and some of their talk pages haven't been used for so long, it would be silly to put something there when nobody checks them regularly. The to-do list would tell everyone that visits the main page what we need and I think it would be a big help finding everyone something to do. (For those of you that are reading this, please check out SMB's proposal below mine.)


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===Remove Some Templates From the Main Page===
===Remove Some Templates From the Main Page===
<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%;text-transform:uppercase;">proposal removed</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|canceled}}
 
Ok, I finally thought this through. I think we should remove the tourney template and the poll template. The tourney thing is more of something we should find in the [[MarioWiki:Pipe Plaza|Pipe Plaza]], and we already have a poll section in the Fake News of [[The 'Shroom:Main Page|The 'Shroom]] managed by, *gasp* [[User:Stooben Rooben|Stooben Rooben]], the same person who is supposed to update the polls on the Main Page! The only thing is that the polls would come out once a month, but I don't see that as much of a difference as the weekly polls aren't really even updated once a week, and usually sit for a long time. So, what I'm initially saying is: Move the tourneys to the Pipe Plaza (NOT in template form), and get rid of the Main Page polls because we have polls on the 'Shroom. This proposal will work in conjunction with FunkyK38's proposal above (she now only wants to add a link on the Main Page that leads to the Pipe Plaza), and an example of how it would look after all of the changes can be found [[User:Super Mario Bros./Main Page 2|here]].<br>
Ok, I finally thought this through. I think we should remove the tourney template and the poll template. The tourney thing is more of something we should find in the [[MarioWiki:Pipe Plaza|Pipe Plaza]], and we already have a poll section in the Fake News of [[The 'Shroom:Main Page|The 'Shroom]] managed by, *gasp* [[User:Stooben Rooben|Stooben Rooben]], the same person who is supposed to update the polls on the Main Page! The only thing is that the polls would come out once a month, but I don't see that as much of a difference as the weekly polls aren't really even updated once a week, and usually sit for a long time. So, what I'm initially saying is: Move the tourneys to the Pipe Plaza (NOT in template form), and get rid of the Main Page polls because we have polls on the 'Shroom. This proposal will work in conjunction with FunkyK38's proposal above (she now only wants to add a link on the Main Page that leads to the Pipe Plaza), and an example of how it would look after all of the changes can be found [[User:Super Mario Bros./Main Page 2|here]].<br>


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===Create poll to determine North American vs. PAL names===
===Create poll to determine North American vs. PAL names===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DO NOT CREATE POLL 7-12</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|7-12|do not create poll}}
 
It seems that people are regularly debating over if North American or PAL names should be used when discussing games.  I think we should make a final, permanent decision by advertising a poll in the Main Page info bar and leave the poll up for a month.  This way, we could find the demographics of the users and determine this annoying question.
It seems that people are regularly debating over if North American or PAL names should be used when discussing games.  I think we should make a final, permanent decision by advertising a poll in the Main Page info bar and leave the poll up for a month.  This way, we could find the demographics of the users and determine this annoying question.


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===Revert First English Title proposal===
===Revert First English Title proposal===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DO NOT REVERT 5-12</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|5-12|do not revert}}
 
Some good time ago, we had [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_12#Use_First_Official_English_Title_for_Articles|this]] proposal that made us use many Europen names, which mariowikians are not used to, so I propose we use American titles for all the pages, indiferent of their first name
Some good time ago, we had [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_12#Use_First_Official_English_Title_for_Articles|this]] proposal that made us use many Europen names, which mariowikians are not used to, so I propose we use American titles for all the pages, indiferent of their first name


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===Merge all the game and watch games===
===Merge all the game and watch games===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DO NOT MERGE 1-10</span>
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-10|do not merge}}
 
I was looking at the game and watch articles, when I realized something, they SUCK. Seriously. They are all undescriptive stubs that don't even deserve their own articles. I propose we merge them all.
I was looking at the game and watch articles, when I realized something, they SUCK. Seriously. They are all undescriptive stubs that don't even deserve their own articles. I propose we merge them all.