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| ===Preserve April Fools' Proposals in BJAODN===
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| First of all, no, this isn't a delayed April Fool's joke--we are being 100% sincere about this proposal! You know it because we waited until after we had squared away the April Fool's proposals to actually bring this up formally.
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| Secondly, this has been discussed before, not [[MarioWiki talk:BJAODN#Allow section(s) for certain April Fools' proposals|once]] but [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/65#Reserve April Fools' joke proposals to a new section|twice]], and the consensus at the time was basically "it's pointless and not that funny, so why bother?" ...As you can imagine, we're not a fan of either of these stances, so we have a brief overview of our counter-arguments to these statements.
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| * '''On pointlessness:''' Yes, archiving these in BJAODN ''is'' pointless! ...But so is the rest of BJAODN, and, paradoxically, that's kind of the point of it--that it's basically useless and for amusement only. The only "practical" thing it has are archives for the big April Fool's pages we create. The one and only time it was ever gearing up to have a "point" was to store [[Wario's Warehouse]] back when people still didn't believe it existed--then the author stepped up and said "yep, that's my work", and that entire thing was rendered moot, and BJAODN remains a mere archive for April Fool's things and, well, other deleted nonsense.
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| * '''On the humor:''' On the "not that funny once April Fool's is done" thing--we feel like it's kinda weird to dismiss a proposal on something that is inherently, a subjective take. Humor is notoriously fickle between different people; one person's complete snorefest is another person's knee-slapper. Sure, not all April Fool's proposals are these complete gut-busters, but neither is everything else in BJAODN. And heck, even if they aren't ''that'' funny, it's kind of in the name; it's not "Deleted Nonsense", it's "'''Bad Jokes and Other''' Deleted Nonsense".
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| Especially in the wake of the effective renaissance of April Fool's proposals we had this year (no doubt due in part to a rather-timely proposal ''about'' April Fool's proposals, albeit moreso about denoting them as such pre-emptively), we feel it pertinent to possibly figure something out for this sooner, rather than later, while the concept's still fresh in everyone's mind. To this end, we've come up with three ideas:
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| * '''Give it its own subpage per year:''' Whenever there's an arbitrary amount of April Fool's proposals for that year (let's say "3" for the time being, if this number needs to be adjusted we can do so later), we create a subpage alongside our main April Fool's archive page for proposals. If there aren't enough, they just go in the standard Proposals subpage for BJAODN--if memory serves, this means that 2021 and 2024 will get a subpage so far, though we may be wrong.
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| * '''All of them go to the Proposals subpage:''' Roughly the same as above, but in ''every'' case we send them to the standard Proposals subpage with no potential for splits. We do worry about this year in particular clogging the heck out of the page, but whatever works.
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| * '''Do nothing:''' We simply don't formally track these whatsoever in BJAODN, simple-as.
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| '''Proposer''': {{User|Camwoodstock}}<br>
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| '''Deadline''': April 8, 2024, 23:59 GMT
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| ====Support, with additional subpages====
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| #{{User|Camwoodstock}} Our preferred option--keep the silliness alive, and keep it nice and tidy for the future.
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| #{{User|Sparks}} Having tidiness makes for easier navigation.
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| #{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} {{color|Pink Donkey Kong Sr. approves!|hotpink}} (Per proposal.)
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| #{{User|Tails777}} It's completely understandable that humor is subjective, but let's remember to look at it from another angle; it's not always about if the joke proposal is funny, it's also about how we as users interact with each other and the jokes that adds to the humor. That was my initial support reason back during [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/65#Reserve April Fools' joke proposals to a new section|back during this proposal]] (which, I do realize, wasn't ''exactly'' the point of the proposal, but let's not worry about that). My main point is, I one hundred percent support archiving our April Fool's joke proposals for the sake of celebrating our fun interactions with each other as people! Per proposal!
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| #{{User|Power Flotzo}} This is an excellent option and probably why we haven't archived as many of these joke proposals in the past. Per everyone else.
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| #{{User|BMfan08}} There's no fooling about this one. Per all.
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| #{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Yoshi Yoshi! (Per all. Also, i always wanted this to happen)
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| #{{User|Arend}} We preserve April Fool's Day archives, we preserve funnily bad proposals, why not April Fool's Day proposals? It's a lot better than scouring through ''countless'' pages of the Proposal page's revision history (and that's with 500 revisions per page in mind too).
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| #{{User|OmegaRuby}} We haven't done this already? Per all.
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| #{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} YES PLEASE!
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| #{{User|Hewer}} Per all [[File:HamburgerSSBB.PNG|25px|link=Hamburger|A Hamburger in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''.]]
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| #{{User|PnnyCrygr}} Yeah, now the joke proposals will have a repo place to stay! (why is the vote #1?)
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| #{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Humorous remark goes here. Per all.
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| #[[User:Waddle D33|Waddle D33]] ([[User talk:Waddle D33|talk]]) I just spent the last half hour or so reading and appreciating the articles in the BJAODN section. Anyway, I agree that BJAODN would be a good home for those types of jokes.
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| #{{User|SeanWheeler}} Might as well archive these April Fools' proposals for someone who is interested.
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| #{{User|FanOfRosalina2007}} Oh, yes please!! I liked the last ones! Even though it took me a minute to figure out that they were joke proposals, I still like them! (I still want my ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' cheeseburger....)
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| #{{User|JanMisali}} Per all.
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| ====Support, all to the same subpage====
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| #{{User|Camwoodstock}} Secondary option--we do worry about the page growing too long for this, but it'd make sense for the time being.
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| ====Do nothing====
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| ====Comments====
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| Is there any chance that the April Fools' proposals be merged with the April Fools' prank of that year? For example, all of the 2024 April Fools' proposals can be merged with [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2024]]. {{User:Sparks/sig}} 19:47, April 2, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Usually, when the main prank is moved to BJAODN, its corresponding pages are stored as their own subpage--[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/April Fool's 2024/Mushroom Kingdom Hearts|for example, Mushroom Kingdom Hearts is kept on its own page]], rather than being melded to the Main Page archive. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 19:53, April 2, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::Okay. That makes sense. Subpages could work for the proposals then. {{User:Sparks/sig}} 19:55, April 2, 2024 (EDT)
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| For reference, after looking at page history, the years that had at least three joke proposals were 2018 with exactly three (or [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/51#Pie for Everyone. Pie for EVERYONE. Pie. For. ALL.|four]]?), 2019 with five, 2020 with nine, 2021 with five (including [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Proposals#Remove removals|one]] that already got archived which we'd have to move), and 2024 with ten, so they'd all get their own subpages, and there was also one April Fools' proposal each in 2010 and 2023 (the former got immediately deleted though). Three of the four pie proposals in the main archive were technically April Fools' as well, unsure whether those should count. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 13:07, April 3, 2024 (EDT)
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| : ''You are the unsung hero of this proposal''. We'd say if this passes in its current state, the Pie proposals that weren't tied to the aforementioned years should probably remain on the standard BJAODN Proposals section. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 14:57, April 5, 2024 (EDT)
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