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== Templates Needed? ==
== Templates Needed? ==
I was wondering if we could do with a television show template and a film/anime template?  The former would apply to many pages (Supercade, the DiC cartoons) and the later would apply to at the American film and the four Japanese animes.  Would anyone else find them useful?  And, more importantly, would anyone be willing and able to made them? {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 17:08, 10 February 2009 (EST)
I was wondering if we could do with a television show template and a film/anime template?  The former would apply to many pages (Supercade, the DiC cartoons) and the later would apply to at the American film and the four Japanese animes.  Would anyone else find them useful?  And, more importantly, would anyone be willing and able to made them? {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 17:08, 10 February 2009 (EST)


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::You rang? ...Wow, that is ''a lot'' of parameters to put in an infobox. I think I can manage doing that, though. It might take a few hours to actually make it though. Lemme see what I can do. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 21:54, 12 February 2009 (EST)
::You rang? ...Wow, that is ''a lot'' of parameters to put in an infobox. I think I can manage doing that, though. It might take a few hours to actually make it though. Lemme see what I can do. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 21:54, 12 February 2009 (EST)


Those look a bit ''too'' detailed. Most readers probably don't care about a lot of the finicky things, like the number of cameras or the music composer. Take the general {{tem|infobox}} we use for games, it only has eleven headers (not including the Image stuff):
Those look a bit ''too'' detailed. Most readers probably don't care about a lot of the finicky things, like the number of cameras or the music composer. Take the general {{tem|game infobox}} we use for games, it only has eleven headers (not including the Image stuff):


*Name
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Short and Sweet. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 22:30, 12 February 2009 (EST)
Short and Sweet. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 22:30, 12 February 2009 (EST)
:I made [[Template:TV-infobox|the television infobox]]. I designed it so that if there is any information we do not have, we don't have to put it in the template. (Thus, that header will not appear unless used.) Image sizes are judged by adding "|250px" in an image link; image captions are added by added a <nowiki><br></nowiki> and then the caption. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 22:38, 12 February 2009 (EST)
:I made [[Template:TV series infobox|the television infobox]]. I designed it so that if there is any information we do not have, we don't have to put it in the template. (Thus, that header will not appear unless used.) Image sizes are judged by adding "|250px" in an image link; image captions are added by added a <nowiki><br></nowiki> and then the caption. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 22:38, 12 February 2009 (EST)
::Thanks, Rooben!  You're the best!! {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 00:04, 13 February 2009 (EST)
::Thanks, Rooben!  You're the best!! {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 00:04, 13 February 2009 (EST)


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== Separate Articles for Walkthroughs ==
== Separate Articles for Walkthroughs ==
 
Are we allowed to have Seperate Articles for Walkthroughs? (e.g. I could create an article, "Super Mario Sunshine Walkthrough"). <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[File:Yoshi Mario Hat SM64DS.png|30px]]
Are we allowed to have Seperate Articles for Walkthroughs? (e.g. I could create an article, "Super Mario Sunshine Walkthrough"). <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
:I beleive the wiki is not meant for walkthroughs, but rather information only. --{{User|Shiancoe}}
:I beleive the wiki is not meant for walkthroughs, but rather information only. --{{User|Shiancoe}}


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== Foreign Names Problem ==
== Foreign Names Problem ==
I noticed that users sometimes add names under "Foreign Names" that are ''exactly'' the same as the English one. For example, in Bowser's article [[Bowser#Foreign Names|we learn]] that Bowser is also known as Bowser in German. Going by that, every "western" language could be added where Bowser is named Bowser. I think this template's purpose is to show in which languages names are different from the English ones and not where they are the same, isn't it? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 13:29, 2 March 2009 (EST)
I noticed that users sometimes add names under "Foreign Names" that are ''exactly'' the same as the English one. For example, in Bowser's article [[Bowser#Foreign Names|we learn]] that Bowser is also known as Bowser in German. Going by that, every "western" language could be added where Bowser is named Bowser. I think this template's purpose is to show in which languages names are different from the English ones and not where they are the same, isn't it? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 13:29, 2 March 2009 (EST)


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== Image Tags for People ==
== Image Tags for People ==
Over the last few days I've worked on [[Leslie Swan]] and couldn't find an image of her anywhere - I can only think that is a personal choice and I'd like to respect it.  I removed the image tag for that reason, but I was hoping someone else might have been able to get an image of her, maybe from an e3 event or something where we can say, "Okay - this person doesn't mind her picture being on the internet." {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 16:51, 5 March 2009 (EST)
Over the last few days I've worked on [[Leslie Swan]] and couldn't find an image of her anywhere - I can only think that is a personal choice and I'd like to respect it.  I removed the image tag for that reason, but I was hoping someone else might have been able to get an image of her, maybe from an e3 event or something where we can say, "Okay - this person doesn't mind her picture being on the internet." {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 16:51, 5 March 2009 (EST)


== Comments on New Policies ==
== Comments on New Policies ==
Now that we've had some experience with the new article organization and inclusion policies (namely, the sorting by series and the inclusion of Banjo and Conker), I just wanted to see what people think of how it's working.  Everyone happy?  I've only got a couple of minor things myself.
Now that we've had some experience with the new article organization and inclusion policies (namely, the sorting by series and the inclusion of Banjo and Conker), I just wanted to see what people think of how it's working.  Everyone happy?  I've only got a couple of minor things myself.


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:Right now, I would wait to break up the big series articles until they are relatively complete (which they are not close to).  But perhaps in the future it would be a good idea to take those larger sections and break them away from the main series article.  Also, I would consider the couple future titles to be at least "mainstream cameo" appearances of the series as covered by [[MarioWiki: Canonicity]] and thus important for the articles.  Especially since Rare has worked with Nintendo on developing the series further past its acquisition by Microsoft, it would be sensible to include non-Nintendo games for the sake of coherency.  While the Microsoft content is not protected by the Coverage policy, I would say its significant enough for inclusion in the wiki.  Walkazo said it best during the proposal discussion...something about a fish... basically, she said Banjo and Conker, in the end, still originated with Rare, and thus it makes sense to continue covering the series, ultimately allowing users to choose to read what they think is "true" for them. -- {{User|Son of Suns}}
:Right now, I would wait to break up the big series articles until they are relatively complete (which they are not close to).  But perhaps in the future it would be a good idea to take those larger sections and break them away from the main series article.  Also, I would consider the couple future titles to be at least "mainstream cameo" appearances of the series as covered by [[MarioWiki: Canonicity]] and thus important for the articles.  Especially since Rare has worked with Nintendo on developing the series further past its acquisition by Microsoft, it would be sensible to include non-Nintendo games for the sake of coherency.  While the Microsoft content is not protected by the Coverage policy, I would say its significant enough for inclusion in the wiki.  Walkazo said it best during the proposal discussion...something about a fish... basically, she said Banjo and Conker, in the end, still originated with Rare, and thus it makes sense to continue covering the series, ultimately allowing users to choose to read what they think is "true" for them. -- {{User|Son of Suns}}


::For the first issue, I agree with Son of Suns and would like to add that developments in a character's personality/physical appearance/special abilities/etc. can also be included in the actual "Personality" (etc.) sections (as well as being highlighted in the History). For the second issue, I also agree with SoS in that we should wait before separating the list of characters/places/items/etc. from the ''[[Banjo (series)|Banjo]]'' and ''[[Conker (series)|Conker]]'' series articles. However, I don't think those articles should then be dedicated to ''just'' the games: they should be structured like the [[Mario (series)|''Mario'' series]] article, with the major characters/places/items lists still included with the games (i.e. [[Conker]] and [[Conker (series)#Berri|Berri]] would stay, whereas [[Conker (series)#Heinrich|Heinrich]] wouldn't). For the third issue, I still stand by what I said during the proposal (including my "It's still Rare's fish" metaphor, which, if anything, proves I watch too much ''House''...), and again, SoS summed it up quite nicely, so I'll leave it at that. The only other thing I have to add is that maybe we should consider adding seperate articles for the games themselves; they're significant additions to the ''Mario'' "superseries" and a dozen or so pages reflecting this fact won't open the floodgates to articles about every single character/item/place/etc. within those games - those aspects are a different kettle of fish all together. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:41, 13 March 2009 (EDT)
::For the first issue, I agree with Son of Suns and would like to add that developments in a character's personality/physical appearance/special abilities/etc. can also be included in the actual "Personality" (etc.) sections (as well as being highlighted in the History). For the second issue, I also agree with SoS in that we should wait before separating the list of characters/places/items/etc. from the ''Banjo'' and ''Conker'' series articles. However, I don't think those articles should then be dedicated to ''just'' the games: they should be structured like the [[Super Mario (franchise)|''Super Mario'' franchise]] article, with the major characters/places/items lists still included with the games (i.e. [[Conker]] and Berri would stay, whereas Heinrich wouldn't). For the third issue, I still stand by what I said during the proposal (including my "It's still Rare's fish" metaphor, which, if anything, proves I watch too much ''House''...), and again, SoS summed it up quite nicely, so I'll leave it at that. The only other thing I have to add is that maybe we should consider adding seperate articles for the games themselves; they're significant additions to the ''Mario'' "superseries" and a dozen or so pages reflecting this fact won't open the floodgates to articles about every single character/item/place/etc. within those games - those aspects are a different kettle of fish all together. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:41, 13 March 2009 (EDT)


== Sidebar ==
== Sidebar ==
Any objections to adding this page, (the community portal), to the sidebar? {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
Any objections to adding this page, (the community portal), to the sidebar? {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
:Nope; that's a good idea. Will it be under "Navigation" like on Userpedia or "Community"? - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 01:39, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
:Nope; that's a good idea. Will it be under "Navigation" like on Userpedia or "Community"? - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 01:39, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
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Wait, if the actual name of this page is "Community Portal," would using <nowiki>{{DISPLAYTITLE:Community Portal}}</nowiki> be appropriate? {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig|}} 17:22, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
Wait, if the actual name of this page is "Community Portal," would using <nowiki>{{DISPLAYTITLE:Community Portal}}</nowiki> be appropriate? {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig|}} 17:22, 17 March 2009 (EDT)


We have [[MarioWiki:PipePlaza]], though as our community portal. I guess we could abandon it, since no one uses it :P <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[Image:Yoshi_wearing_mario's hat.jpg|30px]]
We have [[MarioWiki:PipePlaza]], though as our community portal. I guess we could abandon it, since no one uses it :P <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[File:Yoshi Mario Hat SM64DS.png|30px]]


LETS REVIVE PIPE PLAZA {{User:Tucayo/sig|YES!!!!!!!!!!}}
LETS REVIVE PIPE PLAZA {{User:Tucayo/sig|YES!!!!!!!!!!}}
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:Oh, I see! That seems to be pretty good. =) {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 00:13, 19 March 2009 (EDT)
:Oh, I see! That seems to be pretty good. =) {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 00:13, 19 March 2009 (EDT)
== Mudkipz ==
== Mudkipz ==
Are ,liek, mudkip images allowed here?(Or other meme images?){{User:Goldguy/sig}}
Are ,liek, mudkip images allowed here?(Or other meme images?){{User:Goldguy/sig}}
:Only for userspace pages. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 20:45, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
:Only for userspace pages. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 20:45, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
::And only four [[MarioWiki:Personal Images|Personal Images]] per person. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 02:12, 18 March 2009 (EDT)
::And only four [[MarioWiki:Personal images|Personal Images]] per person. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 02:12, 18 March 2009 (EDT)


==Main Page Typo==
==Main Page Typo==
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== Luigi's Mansion ==
== Luigi's Mansion ==
Well I tried merging all of the Luigi's Mansion articles (see previous proposal). I've started but I really see a big problem happening. The page itself is Outragously long and with it appearing in 4+ games, there is a lot of pictures, cateogries, templates and trivia. I'm not sure if it can be done. And there are headdings, then sub headings, then sub-sub headings and even deeper ones than that. I know we've had major discussions over this subject before but I just think that this really needs to be looked at again.  
Well I tried merging all of the Luigi's Mansion articles (see previous proposal). I've started but I really see a big problem happening. The page itself is Outragously long and with it appearing in 4+ games, there is a lot of pictures, cateogries, templates and trivia. I'm not sure if it can be done. And there are headdings, then sub headings, then sub-sub headings and even deeper ones than that. I know we've had major discussions over this subject before but I just think that this really needs to be looked at again.  


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== Waluigi Article - HELP!!! ==
== Waluigi Article - HELP!!! ==
Red alert to the sysops - when checking the Waluigi article, I saw an <b>extremely</b> disgusting ASCII art at the beginning of the [[Waluigi]] article; is anyone getting to the bottom of removing this from the article? I also was trying to check through the history to see who was responsible for posting that mess to give them the permaban from here, but I haven't run into finding any breakthroughs yet. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 21:50, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
Red alert to the sysops - when checking the Waluigi article, I saw an <b>extremely</b> disgusting ASCII art at the beginning of the [[Waluigi]] article; is anyone getting to the bottom of removing this from the article? I also was trying to check through the history to see who was responsible for posting that mess to give them the permaban from here, but I haven't run into finding any breakthroughs yet. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 21:50, 29 March 2009 (EDT)


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==Chat==
==Chat==
Who can add #mw-shroom to the access list, Neu already created it, now just that is missing {{User:Tucayo/sig|He he}}
Who can add #mw-shroom to the access list, Neu already created it, now just that is missing {{User:Tucayo/sig|He he}}
It should be working now, but I can't actually get on chat, so I don't know. {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig}} 19:46, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
:Yes it worked Thanks {{User:Tucayo/sig|:D}}
== WarioWare Microgames ==
On the [[microgame]]s in the game ''[[WarioWare, Inc.: Minigame Mania]] / Mega Microgame$!'' (the only ''WarioWare'' where a notable amount of microgames is covered so far), there are currently [[WarioWare, Inc.: Minigame Mania#Microgames|nine separate articles]] with lists of the games, one per microgame set, rather than one full list. What do you think, should it stay as it is or should there be an article titled "[[List of microgames in WarioWare, Inc.: Minigame Mania]]" instead? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 07:23, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
I agree [[User:Lu-igi board|Lu-igi board]] 16:22, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
:On what? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 16:34, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
::I think you should create the "List of Microgames in WarioWare, Inc.: Minigame Mania" article. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 16:42, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
what stooben said. [[User:Lu-igi board|Lu-igi board]] 16:45, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
==So, I just figured out how to fix [[Special:Disambiguations]]==
<span {{#if:{{{nostyle|}}}|| style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:11pt;padding:0 10px 0 10px;"}}>''&ldquo;Showing below up to 1,569 results starting with #1.&rdquo;''<br>
&mdash;'''[[Special:Disambiguations|{{#switch:{{{4}}}|{{{4}}}|#default=Special:Disambiguations}}]]'''{{#if:{{{3|}}}|, ''[[{{{3}}}]]''}}</span>
O_o {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig}} 18:32, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
==Poll==
How long hasthat poll been there? {{User:Tucayo/sig|???}}
:Steve bestowed the task of taking care of the Weekly Polls upon me. He told me to wait a week to continue; so, starting tomorrow, I will take care of the Weekly Poll every Saturday until further notice. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 15:06, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
== Before he gets me here too... ==
Stooben has convinced himself that some troll(Maria?)'s word is incredibly trustworthy, and this troll told Stooben that s/he was ME. He's gone on a rampage banning me... he's already got me on his forum(Xephyr), the MarioWiki chat, and Userpedia. I know I have a terrible reputation here, but '''I AM NOT THE PERSON HE THINKS I AM'''. Before he said this he said that I said something sexual on the #mariowiki chat, but would not give any evidence... He gave me a 30 day ban for something I don't remember, and if it did happen it was probably one tiny line or something. Could someone  help me out here? I will gladly take a short ban if it turns out I did anything ban worthy, but he's banning me all over using these terrible excuses and not citing any evidence.<br>BTW, if this comes out wrong, I apologize, this window is glitching up... But seriously, Stooben refuses to actually talk to me about these bans, could someone else talk to him for me or something?
{{User:Uniju :D/sig}}
I believe that Stooben has gone off his rocker. He can't ban you without any evidence. It just isn't plain right. I don't believe that you are Maria. I'll back you up 100% on that one. {{User:McCloud/sig}}
I'll back you up, Uni. There's no way you're Maria. Stooby was just being stupid, and abusing his powers. I support you 100%. {{User:Master Lucario/sig}}
Me too. Seriously, from what I've seen, Maria is ''Rudnicki'', not you. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 21:15, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
I heard that St00by was hacked by Rudnicki. :/  {{User:Grapes/sig}} 06:14, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
<Neurario> First of all, Stooben had a different IP. Uniju claims he would have moved again, but he would have told us first.
*<Brayds2006> well, for one, St00by changed his nick to Rudnicki and went shac fu on us
*<Brayds2006> and he wasn't talking right
*<Neurario> Secondly, who else says 'pervert' every other line?
*<Grapes> inorite
*<Brayds2006> he kept calling Uli a pervert
*<Neurario> Yeah, he wasn't using proper grammar, punctuation
*<Grapes> :/
*<Neurario> Hmm, what else
*<Neurario> Oh, he was so set on me resigning as an Op
Just to clarify &ndash; Steve reverted the entire server by 24 hours (nice tool!), so we lost all our edits on here from yesterday. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 06:51, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
:Oh good, thank <INSERT DEITY HERE> for that tool. Now, I think that since Stooben is still having some trouble outside this wiki (to do with his email account) it would be a good idea to temp-demote him (No offense Stoob, you're a good man but we can't risk this) until he can get his email situation under control. [[User:Neurario|Neu]] <sub>([[Special:Contributions/Neurario|edits]]|[[User talk:Neurario|talk]]|'''[[MarioWiki:Chat|irc]]''')</sub> 07:06, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
::What exactly did... whoever it was do? {{User:Twentytwofiftyseven/sig}} 09:12, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
@Neurario: All my accounts are secure once again. (Including my Gmail. Kudos to the Google team for helping me with that.)
@2257: The person who hacked my accounts almost wiped out the forums.
Everything is back to normal. But we definitely need to keep an eye out on this troll. My passwords were extremely off the wall; there's no possible way s/he guessed them, so s/he successfully hacked my account by other means. Now my passwords are at least twice their original length, and even more vague. All should be well. I'm sorry for anyone who was scared or hurt during this whole crisis. ...I still don't get why so many people assumed I had gone insane after all the dedication I've put into this site (and it's affiliates). {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 10:28, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
==Authorization Required?==
I try to enter teh forum, and i cant because a message appears that i need authorization, what happens? is it on mainteinance? {{User:Tucayo/sig|Want pizza?}}
:I believe Steve is upgrading the forum. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 21:24, 3 May 2009 (EDT)
== IMPORTANT: TEMPLATE WARNING!!! ==
Shiki Misaki has done lots of horrible things to some popular templates such as "character Infobox". I tried to fix them but I can't! Help me!!!
[[User:Yoshi Koshi Moshi|Yoshi Koshi Moshi]] 08:29, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
== vandle ==
Theres be someone vandlelising Super Mario Wiki.I'm geting really angry because it dosen't appere in 'Edit this page'.
[[User:Bowser-omb|Bowser-omb]] 08:53, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
Huh????[[User:Bowser-omb|Bowser-omb]] 08:53, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
:It's a troll named Smoke, he normaly puts ASCII art of a middle finger and a um... "ding-dong on templates, so it effects many pages at once, it's nothing to worry about since he's easy to catch on the Recent Changes page, making it easy to revert. {{User:Nerdy Guy/sig|The art must of messed up when you copied it, good thing, I don't like looking at that thing}}
==Main page==
This may not have anything to do with anything, but since we've added the featured image I am completely satisfied with the main page. [[File:M&LBIS Sergeant Guy.png|50px]]{{User|Hyper Guy}}[[File:M&LBIS Sergeant Guy.png|50px]]
==kirby==
the [[Kirby]] article has passed the featured article nomination. can I add the template? [[User:Lu-igi board|Lu-igi board]] 15:08, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
:Of course. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 15:19, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
:Uh, no, it still needs to pass one week without any opposers before it gets featured. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 15:44, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
::Ah, my bad. I should have actually looked to see if it had passed. =P Sorry 'bout that. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 16:29, 8 May 2009 (EDT)