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| ====Comments==== | | ===[[King Boo]]=== |
| Hmmm... this is great! I was just about to start a HUGE edit on him.{{User:Knife/sig}}
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| Kind of obvious, right? {{User:Monty Mole/sig}}
| | ==== Support ==== |
| | #[[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] |
| | #[[User:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:green">Yoshi</span></b>]][[User talk:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:black">626</span></b>]][[Image:Egg.PNG|20px]] |
| | #[[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]][[User:Parayoshi|<span style="color: green">Para Yoshi</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Parayoshi|<tt>Wahoo!</tt>]]</sup>[[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]] - Strong Support. Big article, now lots of pictures, all high quality pictures, worded accedingly. Looks like a winner! |
| | #STRONG SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!! King Boo's article is amazing, as said above not too many pics, and great Quality! {{User:WarioLoaf/sig}} |
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| '''Objections''': Most of this article is just lists and images without much real content. Here are some places to improve upon: 1) Facts: What is the evidence that ''Mario Bros.'' takes place in Brooklyn? 2) Expansion: Overall, the Biography section could be expanded. Not every adventure has to be chronicled (although they could for absolute completeness), but major life events should be explained (such as the time Mario almost turned into a Bean!). A personality section could be added, as well as an occupation and hobbies section. A relationship section may also help, giving us insight into Mario’s relationships with other characters. 3) Organization of Sections: To follow the precedent made by other in-universe articles, all information about out-of-universe conception and creation by Shigeru Miyamoto should be placed in a separate section. A lot of the introduction could go into this section. Also information from the other media should be separated into different sections, as they present different representations of Mario (such as Mario’s full name being Mario Mario, which can only be inferred in the games and is only canonical in the Super Mario Bros. movie). -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
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| Huh, I think I took care of all your comments. The last one I COULD work on, but I'm not an expert on media. I did chronicle every one of Mario's adventures and even included sections where he was a damsel. I also added a relationship section with all other B8 characters. Any more suggestions?{{User:Knife/sig}}
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| It's cool! It's long! And he's the one who this wiki's about! His biography section is 90% complete if not, complete...why not him being FA? <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span>
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| I have to ask: '''what's wrong with an "obvious" article being an FA?''' Having a well-known topic thoroughly explained on the wiki is a great thing, not a bad thing. There may well be some strange fact about the topic that someone didn't know about at first. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 18:51, 29 December 2006 (EST)
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| *Who said that Mario Bros. took place in Brooklyn? All of Mario’s games may have taken place in the Mushroom Kingdom and other places in the Mushroom World.
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| *Bowser did not necessarily die in all of Mario’s adventures. He was simply defeated (except with the Luigi’s Mansion controversy).
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| *There is also a lot of speculation in the biography section that needs to be removed.
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| *Grammar issues in the biography section. It is not quality prose.
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| *All the information in the introduction should be moved to different sections about out of universe character and name development. The intro should instead talk about Mario’s heroism in the Mushroom Kingdom.
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| *Mario’s early life as Baby Mario should be mentioned before other parts of his life. Not everything about Baby Mario should be mentioned, only a brief summary. A “Main Article: Baby Mario” link should be added in this section.
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| *Wrecking Crew information should be placed after Super Mario Bros., as the game was released after Super Mario Bros.
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| *More info could be added to the spin-offs, such as Mario Party and Mario Sports info.
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| *The physical description and traits section is more like an appearance development section and should be renamed and reformatted as such. Of course, a physical description and traits section needs to be added.
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| *The abilities section should be written in paragraph form.
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| -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
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| *The instruction manual of the game. Look it up.
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| *Wouldn't you die If you fell into a pit full of Lava?
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| *Other than in the Humble Beginings and Where's Mario? sub-sections, I see no specuation.
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| *What type of grammar are you talking about? There are '''NO''' spelling mistakes and the whole section is written in past tense. I do admit it is a bit confusing with the parenthesis but I have no idea how to overcome that.
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| *I AGREE, but I left that part alone for now.
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| *Okay, I will add that info.
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| *Isn't Wrecking Crew canonically before SMB?
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| *This really isn't my department.
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| *Makes sense...
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| *Gotta work on other sections too.
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| **I agree full Heartly, but cut a few pics, too many. {{User:WarioLoaf/sig}}
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| Agreed. You mainly mean the screenshot pics huh?{{User:Knife/sig}}
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| *WRONG, Actually I mean the official Artwork. More Screenshots less artwork. Artwork gives it no flavor. Screenshots look more authentic {{User:WarioLoaf/sig}}
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| *Actually. You should look it up. I've tried and I've never found a source that said Mario Bros. takes place in Brooklyn.
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| *Not necesarrily. He has a tough hide. He did die in New Super Mario Bros. though, but saying he died is too strong. Defeated would be much better.
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| *Stuff about Mario's House turning into Mario's Castle, etc. There is no proof that they are the same.
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| *Spelling is different than grammar. There are plenty of run-on sentences. The writing, overall, is sub-par.
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| *Not necessarily. The timeline is difficult, so it's better to place games in order of release unless it canonically makes sense to do so. You metioned that in the DK part. While Donkey Kong is not necesarliy Mario's first adventure, it is the first one we learned about. Likewise, we learned about Wrecking Crew after Super Mario Bros.
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| *blank (p.s. don't forget about the other sections mentioned in my orginal oppositions)
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| -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
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| *Hmm.. well basically, I imported the info from previous edits.
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| *He obviously did die. If he died in NSMB, it is likely he died in SMB. I agree that died is a strong word for it, but defeated at this point seems redundant.
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| *That was a confusing sentence huh? I meant that it probably was the inspiration for his house. You got me. But that wasn't speculation, just bad grammar.
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| *I tried to avoid making small sentences and overcomplicating it. Run-ons make things a little shorter. I purposely tried to cut down on length. Also, I tried not to put TOO much info about his game appearance, then it would be longer that the game description itself.
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| *No. Donkey Kong is canonically Mario's (not Baby Mario) first game. If it wasn't it would ruin the whole complexity of the Marioverse. The DK then was officially known as [[Cranky Kong]]. And Wrecking Crew (obviously happened afterwards)
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| And give me a little credit. This wasn't one easy edit, I actually had to work.{{User:Knife/sig}}
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| Don't get me wrong. You made a great expansion of the Mario article. It's just not enough to push it to featured article status. The Mario article will probably be the hardest article to get FA-worthy on this wiki. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
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| ===[[King Boo]]=== | | ===[[King Boo]]=== |
