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 == Make a List of Unused Species/Variants/Characters ==
-{{TPP}}
+{{SettledTPP}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-4|Don't make page}}
+Should we make a page for the list for Unused Species/Variants/Characters?
-Should we make a page for the list for Unused Species/Variants?Characters?
+'''Proposer''': {{User|MontyMoleLoreMaster}} (blocked)<br>
-'''Proposer''': {{User|MontyMoleLoreMaster}}<br>
 '''Deadline''': November 21, 2021, 23:59 GMT
 ===Support===
-#{{User|MontyMoleLoreMaster}} I think we should make a page for Unused species/variants/characters due to many of them being original, yet never getting a page because of them being unused (like Moto). Some species also have various characters or variants that went unused as well (like King Choropu) that do deserve to be mentioned more then just a tiny other appearances mention. If these characters did later return, we could give them their own pages. Should we also list unused characters into species templates as well or no? Anyways, I 100% believe that these unused species/characters/variants should get a page talking about a list of them.
+<del>#{{User|MontyMoleLoreMaster}} I think we should make a page for Unused species/variants/characters due to many of them being original, yet never getting a page because of them being unused (like Moto). Some species also have various characters or variants that went unused as well (like King Choropu) that do deserve to be mentioned more then just a tiny other appearances mention. If these characters did later return, we could give them their own pages. Should we also list unused characters into species templates as well or no? Anyways, I 100% believe that these unused species/characters/variants should get a page talking about a list of them.</del>
 #{{User|OhoJeeOnFire}} Absolutely. Per proposal.
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 #{{User|Swallow}} Per Waluigi Time.
 #{{User|Sdman213}} Per all.
+#{{User|BBQ Turtle}} Per all. Unless a very strong criteria was established for what could go on this page, it would become bloated very quickly with insignificant information.
 ===Comments===
 Personally I think mentioning unused stuff is just fine, even if a lot of it is conjectural names. This stuff was part of development at one point or another, so I think it is fair to have unused characters having a page like implied characters (most implied characters also don’t even have a physical appearance, like how most unused characters don’t have a confirmed name). [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 12:55, November 8, 2021 (EST)
+== Mischievous Mole ==
+Should Mischievous Mole be here since they have some character behind the descriptions for the levels they made? Should they also be considered a Monty Mole since Monty Moles and Rocky Wrenches are the only mole enemies in the Super Mario Maker games? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 18:38, December 6, 2021 (EST)
+Also should some course creators from the Super Mario Maker 2 story mode be considered implied characters as well? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 18:41, December 9, 2021 (EST)
+This question still needs some closure. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 12:46, December 11, 2021 (EST)
+== Split Blumiere's father and Scarlette ==
+{{SettledTPP}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0-0-0|split both}}
+Time for the Paper Mario series to yet again shake up this page. Thanks to Mariuigi Khed's continuing efforts to expand our Super Mario-kun coverage (much appreciated, by the way), we now know that both Blumiere's father and Scarlette appear in the adaptations of their respective games. [[:File:Blumiere's father SMKun.png|Blumiere's father]] just physically appears outright, albeit silhouetted (and sports a magnificent mustache). By definition, he's not implied anymore, so there really shouldn't be much contention here. [[:File:Scarlette SMKun.png|Scarlette]], on the other hand, only appears in a photo, though there is precedent for splitting characters on that basis as well (i.e. the Croacus rulers). Because of this I've included options to split only one or the other.
+There are a few other characters who will need their placement reconsidered after this proposal (i.e. K. Rool's wife), but for simplicity, I'm just focusing on these two for now. Further proposals may not be necessary as this could be used as precedent.
+'''Proposer''': {{User|Waluigi Time}}<br>
+'''Deadline''': March 17, 2022, 23:59 GMT
+====Split both====
+#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per proposal.
+#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Visual appearance in other media, per proposal.
+#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per proposal.
+#{{User|Hewer}} Per proposal.
+#{{User|Tails777}} Per proposal.
+#{{User|RHG1951}} Per proposal.
+#{{User|Niiue}} Per all.
+====Split Blumiere's father only====
+====Split Scarlette only====
+====Do nothing====
+====Comments====
+== Wario's Mother ==
+The page lists Wario's mother as believing Wario to be too goofy to warrant birthday parties as a child, and that this was stated in Wario's Warehouse. The Wario's Warehouse Talk page supposedly has all of the articles posted, but none of them include that detail. Does anyone have a source on that?
+--[[User:Tokiro7|Tokiro7]] ([[User talk:Tokiro7|talk]]) 20:32, September 5, 2022 (EDT)
+==Split a few more?==
+{{talk}}
+Following up on the Blumiere's father and Scarlette proposal above, shouldn't King K. Rool's wife be split too at least? Perhaps also do something about Mogura Kong and X-Naut Johnson (who does seem to be present as one of the random members of the group, but we just don't know which one)? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:53, January 8, 2023 (EST)
+== Monty Mole king ==
+@RipBlue_hime on Twitter says that the [[List of implied characters#Monty Mole king|Monty Mole king]] does not exist. The「大王さま」("great king") in the quote refers to Bowser instead. --[[User:Dine2017|Dine2017]] ([[User talk:Dine2017|talk]]) 22:57, March 28, 2023 (EDT)
+:I have removed the entry after finding the post in question. For whatever reason my null edits for the edit reason are not displaying so pretend it says "https://twitter.com/RipBlue_hime/status/1638890059373096960 a native japanese speaker indicates there's no such character in the text and it's a generic reference to bowser" --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 23:43, March 28, 2023 (EDT)
+:[[User_talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster#RE:_Manga_Translations|...That is my bad]], for some reason it didn't occur to me that the king would be Bowser (even though I literally said another minion called him "King" before this). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 09:34, March 29, 2023 (EDT)
+== Merging Grandma Mia with Grandma Mario ==
+{{Talk}}
+I recently restored the Grandma Mia entry the list because it's deletion caused many links to go nowhere. However, I do agree with the editor that deleted it that it should not belong. The fact that it was gone for three years but no one missed it despite breaking a lot of links is telling. This time, all links would be redirected.--[[User:Platform|Platform]] ([[User talk:Platform|talk]]) 07:53, April 6, 2023 (EDT)