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== Template question == | == Template question == | ||
Hello. Is it possible to code [[Template: | Hello. Is it possible to code [[Template:Play Nintendo quiz|this template]] so that the answer boxes only appear once you fill in their corresponding parameter? ("answer1", "answer2" etc.) For example, if I want the fourth box ''not'' to appear, I can simply not add anything to the "answer4" field. I'm asking because [[Trivia: Are you an expert Yoshi-ologist?|this quiz]] only has three answers for each question instead of the usual four, so it would be very handy to make use of the same template for this one. Otherwise I would have to create a separate template that only has three answer boxes and I don't want that... Thanks! {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 22:00, February 23, 2020 (EST) | ||
:Thank you porple ❤️ {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 04:54, February 24, 2020 (EST) | :Thank you porple ❤️ {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 04:54, February 24, 2020 (EST) | ||
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== Text replacement == | == Text replacement == | ||
Hi, would you mind running the text replacement script to change every transclusion of [[Template:Super Mario World TV]] to [[Template: | Hi, would you mind running the text replacement script to change every transclusion of [[Template:Super Mario World TV]] to [[Template:SMW TV]]? Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 10:25, August 24, 2020 (EDT) | ||
== Could I tag your help on something please? == | == Could I tag your help on something please? == | ||
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:Hey, I hope you're well too! That category is limited since it's solely based off the user-entered values for the <code>length</code> parameters of the {{tem|media table}} template. If the template isn't used or the parameter is missing for a file, that article won't be added to the category. Unfortunately I don't know of an easy way to just grab the length values directly from the files and use them for categorization, but I figured this was better than nothing for at least a place to start. Thanks for helping out! --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 14:27, May 19, 2021 (EDT) | :Hey, I hope you're well too! That category is limited since it's solely based off the user-entered values for the <code>length</code> parameters of the {{tem|media table}} template. If the template isn't used or the parameter is missing for a file, that article won't be added to the category. Unfortunately I don't know of an easy way to just grab the length values directly from the files and use them for categorization, but I figured this was better than nothing for at least a place to start. Thanks for helping out! --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 14:27, May 19, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::That makes a lot of sense. I saw that the category mentioned the <code>length</code> parameter may need to be updated, but didn't realize that the category itself was tied to it. Cool stuff! And no worries, it is definitely a huge help and a great start for reducing the file lengths. After the category is cleared, I'll probably just hit up [[:Category:Media by game|media by game]] or [[:Category:Media quality | ::That makes a lot of sense. I saw that the category mentioned the <code>length</code> parameter may need to be updated, but didn't realize that the category itself was tied to it. Cool stuff! And no worries, it is definitely a huge help and a great start for reducing the file lengths. After the category is cleared, I'll probably just hit up [[:Category:Media by game|media by game]] or [[:Category:Media files to be reuploaded with higher quality|quality requested]] to find the stragglers. I really appreciate the clarification. Thanks for all you do, man. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 14:51, May 19, 2021 (EDT) | ||
== YouTube images guideline == | == YouTube images guideline == | ||
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For a few months now, the staff members have had to block so many IP addresses for evading bans and making edits in names in other languages sections without leaving spaces after commas. Is there anything you can do to stop this from continuing? {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 09:21, June 1, 2021 (EDT) | For a few months now, the staff members have had to block so many IP addresses for evading bans and making edits in names in other languages sections without leaving spaces after commas. Is there anything you can do to stop this from continuing? {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 09:21, June 1, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:Sure, I've added an error message if an anon adds any commas to an article without succeeding spaces. Let's see what happens. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 12:25, June 1, 2021 (EDT) | :Sure, I've added an error message if an anon adds any commas to an article without succeeding spaces. Let's see what happens. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 12:25, June 1, 2021 (EDT) | ||
Can you do this to force English quotation marks "..." around Korean words, or if that's not possible, force spaces around Asian quotation marks「...」? The anon's ignoring messages again (and tbh I'm doubting it's even a real person, the behaviour seems very bot-like). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:54, March 24, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:Ok, I've added something to help enforce proper quotation marks for Korean ("") and Japanese (「」) phrases. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 02:00, March 25, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== Account Deletion / Purge Request: Josephine Lithius == | == Account Deletion / Purge Request: Josephine Lithius == | ||
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:Unfortunately that isn't a feature of the Cite extension, but I added a link to the search query [[MarioWiki:Maintenance#General article maintenance|here]] and fixed the existing articles. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 07:20, November 23, 2021 (EST) | :Unfortunately that isn't a feature of the Cite extension, but I added a link to the search query [[MarioWiki:Maintenance#General article maintenance|here]] and fixed the existing articles. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 07:20, November 23, 2021 (EST) | ||
== MediaWiki Category Enhancement Plug-Ins == | |||
It's been a while! Anyways, you wouldn't happen to know of any {{wp|MediaWiki}} [[Special:Version|extensions]] that can sort, filter, or preview things in the category namespace? Image categories on {{SITENAME}} in general aren't organized very well. It would be nice if there was a preview mode where a previous or next button existed in the Category namespace instead of clicking individually each image. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 21:48, December 15, 2021 (EST) | |||
:Hey, what up. I don't know of any extensions like that, but for the thing about not having to click each image, you could go [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering-files|here]] and check "Enable Media Viewer" for a way to cycle between images. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 23:56, December 15, 2021 (EST) | |||
::I see you have updated the software quite a bit since the last time I was here too. Anyways, I find it to be a double-edged sword. I like it for categories, but not so much articles. It's [[All or Nothing]]. Thanks for the help. Hopefully my extension suggestion gives some ideas for searching or keeping a lookout on the MediaWiki database to enhance the category namespace in the future. I mean, look at [[:Category:Super Mario Odyssey images]]! --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 00:48, December 16, 2021 (EST) | |||
:::I think if you wanted to organize those, then we're talking about creating subcategories (e.g. "Super Mario Odyssey sprites"). For a quick look, you can use [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=100&offset=0&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns100=1&ns101=1&ns102=1&ns103=1&ns104=1&ns105=1&ns274=1&ns275=1&ns828=1&ns829=1&ns2300=1&ns2301=1&ns2302=1&ns2303=1&search=incategory%3A%22Super+Mario+Odyssey+images%22+incategory%3A%22Game+sprites%22&advancedSearch-current={} search]. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 01:00, December 16, 2021 (EST) | |||
::::Nice. I am still learning things about the inner workings and advanced usage of MediaWiki. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 09:56, December 16, 2021 (EST) | |||
== Name Change == | |||
Hi, is it possible for you to delete File:SM3DW Super Bell Hill.oga for now? I'm trying to handle some messy name changes that I accidentally did. {{User:WildWario/sig}} 10:38, December 17, 2021 (EST) | |||
:Not until [[Special:WhatLinksHere/File:SM3DW Super Bell Hill.oga|these links]] are updated. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 10:41, December 17, 2021 (EST) | |||
::Thanks for helping me with the mess fix. I was confused by the two similar songs. {{User:WildWario/sig}} 10:52, December 17, 2021 (EST) | |||
:::In hindsight I see what you were doing, but for next time, you can simply ask an admin to "move it back" and overwrite the redirect. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 11:02, December 17, 2021 (EST) | |||
== Damage template == | |||
Due to the fact that the Damage template warns of possible file damage, I made it red to command more attention. I feel this is important due to file corruption. | |||
[[User:The Epicness9000|The Epicness9000]] ([[User talk:The Epicness9000|talk]]) 16:30, December 31, 2021 (EST) | |||
== "Show previews without reloading the page" is missing from [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|Preferences]] == | |||
I don't know when that happened, but I don't have that setting anymore. Previewing edits without reloading is a useful feature. -[[User:Vipz|Vipz]] ([[User talk:Vipz|talk]]) 08:47, February 2, 2022 (EST) | |||
:Live previews don't show warnings in this version of MediaWiki, so it's been disabled, since we don't want a subset of users not receiving that information. Fortunately, this has been fixed in future MediaWiki versions, and the feature will be re-enabled in about a year. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 09:14, February 2, 2022 (EST) | |||
::Which warnings don't display that are a priority over having this feature? -[[User:Vipz|Vipz]] ([[User talk:Vipz|talk]]) 16:04, February 3, 2022 (EST) | |||
:::Template warnings, Module warnings, TemplateStyle warnings, etc. Check [https://i.imgur.com/5Xa7eyz.png this] out: a very good user was doing some template work, previewing, saving the page... only to find that they weren't warned about duplicate template parameters due to using live preview. When some users aren't getting that info, it's an inconsistent experience. Live preview is a "nice to have" feature that's not exactly critical; if there's an issue with it, it's likely to be the one on the chopping block. The warnings are there for a reason, and we want to rest assured that they are making it to 100% of users. We can't expect users to follow warning that aren't being shown to them. But after we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.39 and turn that feature back on... should be fun --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 18:42, February 3, 2022 (EST) | |||
== ''Mario Kart'' course names == | |||
Yep, I think it's time we revisit this. Since the newly announced [[Booster Course Pass]] clunkily uses "Tour" as an abbreviation for courses debuting in ''Mario Kart Tour'', I think we should completely do away with console abbreviations in the titles for said articles, while merely acknowledging that the games use console abbreviations for [[classic course]]s. Plus, ''Mario Kart Tour'' is still in service, and probably still will be by the time the first two Booster Course Pass cups drop. | |||
So what I'm saying is, is it okay with you if I start a multi-option proposal for ''Mario Kart'' course naming conventions? I would suggest every naming convention we've cycled through over time, as well as my preferred option first and foremost. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 22:48, February 9, 2022 (EST) | |||
:Take a look at [https://i.imgur.com/t25emOI.png this]: Console abbreviations are alive and well when it comes to the older console courses. I love that those line up with exactly what we have, and it makes our pages super discoverable for players searching what they see in-game (with no old game identifiers needed for repeated course titles - games they may have never even played [using a game identifier for content that appears across multiple games is not ideal]). So that system continues to deliver for us; there's no way we're moving all those again. | |||
:Regarding Tour: I agree, both Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Mario Kart Tour are currently "live games" (and oddly, Tour was released more recently). Based on that, we have two options here: 1) Continue to prioritize Tour's normal course titles over the classic titles, not moving any Tour courses to a "Tour" prefix until Mario Kart Tour is basically abandoned or unplayable (and when the Tour service does shut down, it's likely that the only way any of those courses will be playable at all is with a [https://i.imgur.com/IERykTC.png clunky prefix] attached, so it might not seem so weird then). Or 2) Just moving Tour courses to the "Tour" prefix right away based on the fact that this DLC is the newer release and latest iteration of those courses. I think that both of these options are perfectly acceptable, and if the community feels more strongly about one over the other then that's what we should do. | |||
:I really don't see this DLC as cause for another grand reshuffling of those pages; if there was some more radical change to the convention then I'd be open to it. I hope you understand --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 08:33, February 10, 2022 (EST) | |||
::While I do still understand your cause for concern, is it still okay if I suggest my preferred options with your your suggested additions thrown in? I just think only a portion of our readers follow your theorized sense of logic, though that's probably just me. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 10:19, February 10, 2022 (EST) | |||
:::No, because the existing classic titles are perfect where they are. The only thing we have to determine is if we should move the Mario Kart Tour courses as the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC releases or after Mario Kart Tour leaves service. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 10:40, February 10, 2022 (EST) | |||
::::Just a heads-up, I searched up a few ''Mario Kart'' tracks with and without the console abbreviations. There were ''far'' less results with the console abbreviations than there were without. This even applies to Kalimari Desert 2, which had the abbreviation upon being introduced. | |||
::::And, with all due respect, I don't think "perfect" is a good descriptor for the status quo at all. I think we should at least try soliciting discussion on the options I've suggested, and if they're not supported by a majority of users, then that's fine. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 12:34, February 10, 2022 (EST) | |||
:::::What is your ideal system? Is it normal names ("Wario Shipyard") and game identifiers where needed like "Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 7)"? --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 12:45, February 10, 2022 (EST) | |||
::::::More or less, yeah. Though, of course, console abbreviation titles would be used as redirects. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 12:53, February 10, 2022 (EST) | |||
The only thing is, we can't use the first game names as the identifiers. | |||
*'''The courses have appeared in more than one game'''. When a subject has appeared in more than one game, we use something else for the identifier. It's not acceptable to use a game name for something that has appeared in multiple games because it implies that if you're playing a different game, that's not the thing you're looking for. | |||
**If you are looking for "3DS Rainbow Road" that you read while playing Mario Kart Tour, and you search that and see "3DS Rainbow Road" in the Google results, you know you're in business. "Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 7)" is misleading since you're not currently playing Mario Kart 7, you're playing Mario Kart Tour, and game names should only be used when something appears in one game. | |||
***So it should use some other identifier. In an identifier system, "(3DS)" is an option since it directly incorporates a piece of info that the player sees in-game, which is why we used to do that. That was the compromise, but it brought a bunch of inconsistencies and a weird thing of guessing the identifier for the current game. | |||
Going full retro solves those issues while incorporating the prefix commonly used by Nintendo in and outside of the games. And it has us using the latest iteration of each name. It's sort of like a pre-identifier, it doesn't have to be taken literally as part of the title, but it's there and it's helpful (part of why it's small). | |||
So as you continue to think about your ideal system, you need to address that. Can't use old game names for subjects that appear in multiple games. Ideally, the system would incorporate the console abbreviation in some way as well, since that's what Nintendo themselves use as their own "identifiers." Using ''just'' the console abbreviation as an identifier makes it misleading for the [[Donut Plains 1]] level versus the "Donut Plains 1 (SNES)" course, but putting the prefix first like how they appear in game makes them more of a unique title than at the end, so there is no parenthesis identifier needed. Having to use a console identifier versus a non-course was strange. But [[SNES Donut Plains 1]] has appeared in multiple Kart games, so we can't do "Donut Plains 1 (Super Mario Kart)" either. Same with like [[DS Luigi's Mansion]], we can't do "Luigi's Mansion (Mario Kart DS)" since it appears in multiple games, and "Luigi's Mansion (DS)" is a little weird since it implies it's like a DS game, but [[DS Luigi's Mansion]] just works while matching its modern usage in the latest games. Luckily, a lot of things sort of fall into place with the retro prefixes, since they all have unique article titles. | |||
Regarding your search results thing: That's because adding the prefix makes the search more specific, so it narrows down the results when you add the prefix. But number of results is not even the metric that I'm talking about here, what matters is the number of people searching each term, and more specifically what terms are on their mind for the titles that would need identifiers (e.g. Rainbow Road). Because for a course with a unique name, they are going to find that regardless (so you could make a case to only use retro prefixes where an identifier would otherwise be needed [which is basically what we used to do except we used console abbreviation identifiers when needed], but as we learned that has its own issues, it would make things wildly inconsistent, and we don't base everything 100% militantly on search, but it is a part of the equation). But when users are inserting their own "identifiers" in the search box, they are [https://i.imgur.com/TwWoMqu.png more] [https://i.imgur.com/foW0CO4.png often] [https://i.imgur.com/v5l2Dar.png inserting] a console abbreviation than an old game name. Console abbreviations are what's on their mind, and that's what they're scanning for as they read the results, so those are what should be incorporated into any system. I predict that the older these original games get, the less and less they'll come up in search queries, since a lot of people will simply know them as "SNES whatever" (cementing them as the common name). | |||
So it's only a question of moving the Tour courses as the DLC drops or after Tour support ends. I guess the default based on current policy would be to move them on release, but if we want to delay Tour course moves while both games are in service, that could be a proposal. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 14:33, February 10, 2022 (EST) | |||
:Regarding the "more-than-one-game" argument, there's also the [[Warp Space (Mario Party 4)|Warp Space]]s from ''[[Mario Party 4]]''; despite also appearing in ''[[Mario Party: Island Tour]]'', they still need a game identifier because there's the [[Warp Space (Mario Party 10)|Warp Space]]s from ''[[Mario Party 10]]''. Also, we can switch to type identifiers for things like [[DS Luigi's Mansion|Luigi's Mansion]] or [[SNES Donut Plains 1|Donut Plains 1]], specifically "race course" or "battle course". Tell you what, how about I draft this up extensively and then contact you once I'm done? {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 16:04, February 10, 2022 (EST) | |||
::Using game identifiers for more than one game is bad and discouraged for the reasons I laid out. Yes, there are cases where it happens. If possible, a better identifier should be used. If not, then it's a one-off less-than-ideal scenario. When something is bad, pointing out that the bad thing happens in other areas of the wiki does not make that thing good, and it's certainly not an argument for implementing the bad thing on a more pronounced scale wiki-wide. And using those identifiers for Luigi's Mansion and Donut Plains 1, you lose the console abbreviation, which is a [https://i.imgur.com/nJSErd1.png huge boon] to the way folks are commonly thinking about these course titles. Ok, if you can present me with your full presentation, I may have a counter/some ideas. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 18:00, February 10, 2022 (EST) | |||
== Recent ban due to CappyThrow Account == | |||
Hello, | |||
I sent an email about this ban a few weeks ago and have not been responded too. I contacted Mario jc, the person who dealt the ban and also have not been responded too. | |||
Some years ago my older sibling created an account here. He has completely left the house at this point. When I tried to create an account, I was blocked saying that I was a double account of CappyThrow. I am not him. Nobody seems to be responding and I was hoping you might. Everyone is just ignoring me. | |||
Mario jc also blocked CappyThrow saying that he used offensive language over email - right after I sent my email. Considering everyone thinks I am him, I am concerned I may have gotten him in trouble. I assure you, my email was not intended to be offensive if this is my fault. Here is the contents of the email: | |||
Hello, | |||
''I am sorry but I believe we have entered a misunderstanding. CappyCapture is not me but my sibling. To be quite honest, the person behind CappyCapture has moved out entirely. I completely understand where the ban came from and have no hard feelings, as I see how easy and obvious of a mistake this is to make. Especially with how rude he was - I didn't realize until I was fumbling around for a contact address and spotted his comments on Mario JC's page. However I and CappyCapture are not one. I request unbannishment? It would be much appreciated. Sincerest apologies for the mixup. | |||
CaptainCappy'' | |||
So as you can see, I don't believe I was actually offensive in this. I am very confused right now and appear to be being ignored. | |||
Please help out, | |||
CaptainCappy | |||
== Responsive tables == | |||
Hi. Is there any way/plan to make tables on the wiki responsive? For example, can tables like [[Chuck Quizmo#List of questions and answers|this]] use a vertical format on narrow screens? --[[User:Dine2017|Dine2017]] ([[User talk:Dine2017|talk]]) 01:44, April 9, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:I made [[TEC-XX#Quiz|this]] table responsive. Check out the [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=TEC-XX&diff=prev&oldid=3596326 diff] and it can be applied elsewhere. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 09:17, April 9, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== Scarlette == | |||
Can you change all instances of <nowiki>[[List of implied characters#Scarlette|Scarlette]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>[[Scarlette]]</nowiki> please? --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 16:43, April 10, 2022 (EDT) | |||