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**"空とぶ魔法" (Sky flying magic)
**"空とぶ魔法" (Sky flying magic)
***K: "なに空とぶ 魔法?" (You want to learn to fly through magic?)
***K: "なに空とぶ 魔法?" (You want to learn to fly through magic?)
**DR: "こ" (Yes.)
***DR: "こ" (Yes.)
***K: "あれは むずかし いん だよな…" (That will be difficult...)
***K: "あれは むずかし いん だよな…" (That will be difficult...)
***MM: "やめとけ やめとけ オレ この前 ブロックに かえられ たんだぜ…" (Don't cry: I was turn into a block, the other day.)
***MM: "やめとけ やめとけ オレ この前 ブロックに かえられ たんだぜ…" (Don't cry: I was turn into a block, the other day.)
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***DB: "なにも ミミズ なんかに かえること ないじゃ ないか!" (You really didn't have anyone else to turn into a worm?) "その次は ナメクジで…" (Next it's a slug...)
***DB: "なにも ミミズ なんかに かえること ないじゃ ないか!" (You really didn't have anyone else to turn into a worm?) "その次は ナメクジで…" (Next it's a slug...)
***MM: "お前の笑 い話より よっぽど 笑えたん だけどな…" (That would be funnier than your jokes...)
***MM: "お前の笑 い話より よっぽど 笑えたん だけどな…" (That would be funnier than your jokes...)
*Pag. 116
**"命をかけた芸" (Life-threatening art)
***DB: [The same joke in page 112]
***MM: "おまえなァ いいかげんに しねェと 命落とすぞ…" (You're going to die, one of these days...)
***DB: "ヒ〜ン" (either a "sigh" or a "Hey [I heard that]!")
**"しょうがねえ" (It can not be helped)
***MM: "なにィ? ブンブンに やられたァ?" (What? Boom Boom beated you up?) "そりゃおまえらが マヌケなせいだょ!" (That's because you're all idiots) "しょうが ねェなァ..." (I'm sorry.../It can't be helped, then...)
*Pag. 117
**"対決の時" (Time for a confrontation)
***BB: "仕返しだとオ?" (So you want to avenge your friends?) "オレはウデ まわしてるだけだぜ! 当たったら お前のせいだからな!" (We will fight by swining our arms! If you're hit, I'll take everything you have!) "なっ" (Get it?)
***MM: "オレは 石持ってる だけだぜ!" (I just jave a stone)
**"一発狙い" (One shot)
***BB: "くそオなかなか、やるなァ!" (Damn it! It's not over yet!) "や...やるなア" (D-Don't move!)
***MM: "ムダな動きの多いやつだな…" (This guy knows how to waste stamina...)
*Pag. 118: "舞いあがるカ口ン" (Soaring mosquitos)
**DB: "あ やア あ?" (Ah! Oh... Eh?) "大丈夫?笑い話聞く?" (Are you ok? Wanna hear a joke?)
*Final page: "とりあえず大団円" (For the time being)
**G: "こっちは準備ええで" (Are you ready?)
**K: "じやここに乗って" (The Dino is on the basket)
**MM: "よ〜し 出発!" (Alright! DEPARTURE!) "ったく…世話のかかるやっ…" (Just... take care...)
**End sentence: "ようこそワンダーランドへ……おわり" (Welcome to Wonderland...The End)
*Title: ようこそワンダーランドへ (Welcome to Wonderland) [Ok, I wanted to check if the ending quote was just like the opening one. It is.]
-{{User:Mariuigi Khed/sig}}


Ok (still translating the last pages to perfection, so I need less "NdT"s annotations, but I can answer the other questions).
Ok (still translating the last pages to perfection, so I need less "NdT"s annotations, but I can answer the other questions).
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*I want to check something for the title, so please wait for that
*I want to check something for the title, so please wait for that
-{{User:Mariuigi Khed/sig}}
-{{User:Mariuigi Khed/sig}}
*Nah: I would say both the camouflaging Monty Mole and the snarky Monty Mole are clearly two diffrent individuals, but a part mentioning them in the Monty Mole page, I wouldn't create a page for each (I think the camouflage is a nod to how the ground and the Mole in the hole on the wall can actually respawn under particular circumstances).
*So, SMKun's Magikoopa is definitly a proto-Kamek due to his "closeness" with Bowser, same for the one in Super Mario Adventures. I think though this one is just a normal Magikoopa, UNLESS previous or next pages confirms he's treated by Bowser as an adviser (or the fact that there are more Magikoopas in the same place). Also, let's not forget that, at the time, only Magikoopa existed.
**Also, little PS: I will call this Magikoopa individual "Kamek" since that is the species Japanese name, but I will specify, in the future, if there's questioning if the Magikoopa is or isn't THE Kamek (or a proto-Kamek).
-{{User:Mariuigi Khed/sig}}
Oh, just that of Volume 2? Ok, I can do it quickly, then:
*Pag. 21: "解体屋プー" (Dismantling Rocky Wrench)
**L: (hopping sounds) "ん?" (What?) "もう少し ここで ねばって みるか" (Should I stay to see how this is gonna end?)
**WR: "早く 和る物 よこせよ" (Give me something to trow, quickly!)
*Pag. 57: "トレーニング" (Training)
**MM: "おーいノコノコマラソンしょーぜ" (Hey, Koopa Troopa, wanna race?)
**KT: "よーし やるか" (Ok.)
**MM: "けけけっ ノコノコは 足が 遅ぇなァ" (Koopa Troopa's legs are slow) "しかたねえ 追いつくまで 待ってて やるか……" (I'll wait for him to catch up...)
**KT: "く 自分で言っといて サボって寝ちまう んだからな…" (He fell asleep, I'll carrying him)
*Pag. 101: "こんなんじゃあ~" (He's like this...)
**PP & MM: (Shrieks)
**Dialogue box: "その後彼は二度と地上に 出なかった…" (After that, he never went to the surface again)
*Pag. 104: "大男総身に知恵が回りかね" [NdT: I think it's a way of saying, anyway, it means "The bigger the man, the harder for the blood to get up to the brain.")
**MeM: "よおチョロプー" (Hey, Monty Mole.)
**MoM: "あっ インディのだんな!" (Oh, Mr. Mega Mole.)
**MeM: "何してるんだ?" (What are you doing)
**MoM: "マリオが 来るの 待ってん でやす (来たら飛び出すんでやす…)" (Waiting for Mario... (When he comes, I'll jump at him))
**MeM: "そうか.…まあ がんばれ" (I see. Well, good luck.)
**MoM: "いいなあ…あっしと同じ 種族なのに でっかくて 迫力あって…" (How Lucky... he's the same species as me, but he's more powerful and bigger.) "…その分、にぶいんでやすね…" (but unfortunately, that's also his weakness.)
-{{User:Mariuigi Khed/sig}}
Ok, I'll do the translations after lunch (I have the afternoon work turn, today), but I can already say of the page for the volumes: I would go like the SMKun pages: each 4-koma gets its own section in the volume page.
I would go with something like<br><nowiki>==Contents==</nowiki><br><nowiki>===Chapter 1===</nowiki><br>Title of the chapter (''translation'')<br><nowiki>====1: Title of the first 4-koma</nowiki> (''translation'')<nowiki>====</nowiki><br>description<br><nowiki>====2: Title of the second 4-koma</nowiki> (''translation'')<nowiki>====</nowiki><br>description<br>[...]<br><nowiki>====Gallery====</nowiki><br><nowiki><gallery></nowiki><br>4-koma 1 image|Translated title<br>4-koma 2 image|Translated title<br>[...]<br><nowiki></gallery></nowiki><br><nowiki>===Chapter 2===</nowiki><br>[repeat]
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-{{User:Mariuigi Khed/sig}}
Ok, I'll keep an eye open on the missing 4-komas. Also, nah: it's just one of Kamek's powers: if there is a section about Kamek/Magikoopa's powers, just add "In "Mario 4-koma theatre" and "Super Mario-kun" he's/they're capable of trasforming in other species, such as Monty Moles, Yoshis and Mushrooms..."
-{{User:Mariuigi Khed/sig}}
*Wario does explicitly say this in volume 7, but I would go and say this is also implied in Volume 6, since it's part of the game plot (in volume 6, when Mario returns home, he friendly greets two Flying Goomba that says "we're on Wario's side now, scram", so it's definitly implied): "この国の住人も、草や木も花も、魔法をかけて み~~んな おれの手下にした!" (The inhabitants of this country, the grass, the trees, and the flowers have been magically made into my minions!).
*No Monty Moles appear between volume 37 and 40. Only Mole present is Major Burrows, whose design is just Super Mario-kun-esque. I would call it chibi, but it's definitly not "chibi", I don't know how to call this style... "Doraemon-esque" [They did make a paragon in volume 3]?
-{{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}}
Yeah, Mario does call it "Wario's subordinate" in Volume 6, but, as you say, the fact that a Ragumo is with Luigi, Heavy Zed and the de-hypnotized enemies in volume 10, it's definitly confirmed he was previously hypnotized. However, Volume 6 events of SML2, aren't canon in the manga, since those are anticipations, but are ignored in the next chapter. However, reflect: let's pretend that Bowser hypnotized the Toads into working for him, you would call them "Bowser's subordinates", even if they are obligated to fight on his side, like you can call the hypnotized Koopalings and the Elite Trio "Fawful's subordinates". Also, yeah, in the other Super Mario-kun the Ragumo isn't hypnotized, but that doesn't mean anything, it's another thing (at this point, let's point out how Captain Syrup has a Goom for assistant in SMKun but a Demon Bat in KC Deluxe: that will change ''everything'' for these two species). I say, in both occasion, Ragumo is hypnotized to work for Wario and stop Mario (again: it's the plot of the game, of the manga arc, he cheers for Mario in the final battle... Ragumo ''was'' hypnotized).
-{{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}}
Alrighty then: ok, I'll translate this stuff (Volume 3), then I'll do a check up of the (possible) missing Monty Mole komas:
*Pag. 11: 帰りたいけど (I want to go home)
**Nothing special, just Peach homesick, but then feels bad for hurting her captors' feelings.
*Pag. 13: 人助け (Helping)
**Just clanking sounds
*Pag. 14: "ハッピーバースデー・マリオ" (Happy birthday, Mario)
**L: "きょうは 誕生日だね兄さん" (Today is your birthday, brother!)
**M: "ルイージょ…" (Luigi...) "ピーチ姫を一 助け出すまで…俺たちに 誕生日など 滅う余裕は ないのだ.…" (Until we rescue Peach... we can't afford to die on our birthdays...) [NdT: I think he meant it as "we can't lower our guard by celebrating a birthday"]
**L: "に…兄さん" (But... Mario/Brother...) "…ところで きょうは敵が一 出ないね?" (By the way, have you noticed there are no enemies around?)
**M: "そう だな?" (Really?) "何よりの プレゼント だよ" (Well, seems I got a gift.) トットット (laugh)
**L: "よかったね兄さん!" (Good for you, brother)
*Pag. 55: ガーン (Shock SFX; like "BWOOM")
**Ninji wanted to give a flower to Peach as a Birthday gift, but Monty Mole beat him to it. Simple dialogues, such as "Happy Birthday, Peach", "Thank you", names.
*Pag. 78:
**だからチョロプー (So, Monty Mole...)
***M: GASP!
***MM: "ホントの これがチョロプー" (This is the real Monty Mole!) "な〜んちゃって!" (Naughty!) "わは…?" (Woah!)
**されどチョロプー (But Monty Mole...)
***MM: "ちくしようマり才の奴! コクッパ様に言いつけてやる~~っ!" (I'm a talented guy! I'll show it to Miss Koopa) "あつ ウェンデ様あ~つ。" (Miss Wendy!)
***W: "ん?" (Yes?) "何?" (What is it?)
***MM: "プ~ツ" (Pfff) [preparing the same "joke" he played on Mario]
***W: "念入りにね..." (Good riddance)
***MM: "これ がホントの..." (This is really...) "...くそ" (...sh*t)
*We can skip Pag. 84-85 (title is: "暗いのが好き - 新山たかし" (I like darkness - Takashi Ninji))
*Pag. 89: 人生いろいろ (Life variety)
**MM: "おッマリオがきたな…" (Oh, Mario is here...) "土の中で 待つこと3年" (I'm waiting in the dirt for 3 year [what?]) "ようやくこの暗闇とも おさらばだ" (Finally I can say goodbye to this darkness) "いくぞマリオ! あれ?" (I got you, Mario! WHAT!?) "オレの 人性つて一体..." (What is my life...)
[Ok, I'll translate Fawful express and the Hide and Seek match later]
-{{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}}
Ok, let's continue with volume 3
*Pag. 92:
**一発屋 (One hit attack)
***I really don't understand what Mario is saying. I think it's another way of saying/moral.
**にこ2 (Smile 2)
***Dialogue boxes: "肉類" (Meat) "生野菜" (Raw vegetables) "魚類" (Fish)
***M: "みんなも ヨッシーをみならって好ききらいをなくそう!" (Let's all imitate Yoshi and let's eat even what we dislike!)
***L: "約束だぞ" (Very well)
*Pag. 104 ワンダーランドふたたび (Wonderland again)
**MM: "ヒマだァ" (Free time) "なんか 面白いこと ねェかなァ" (I wonder if there's something interesting going on)
**DB: "チョロプー" (Monty Mole)
**MM: "なんでェ カロンか" (What's up Dry Bones?)
**DB: "ケッサク なんだ今カメックが" (Have you heard of Kamek? He...) [BONK] "...なんだっけ? 今のショックで 忘れた…" (...what was it, again? I think I forgot it from the shock/bonk...)
**MM: "思い出せェ" (REMEMBER IT!) "オレはヒマなん" (I have too much free time/I'm bored from this free time)
**DB: "ゆらさないで 記憶が とんじゃうよー" (Stop shaking me! This won't help me gaining back my memory!)
*Pag. 105
**見守る4人 (4 people watching over)
***FG: "カメック WAND なくしたん やて?" (Kamek, did you lost your wand?)
***K: "そう 困ってんだ" (Yes, and this is bad.)
***MM: "カロンに 聞いたけど つえなくしたん だって?" (Dry Bones told me you lost your wand, Kamek.)
***K: "そーなんだチョロプー" (That's right, Monty Mole)
***FG: "大変 やなァ…" (That's a problem...)
***MM: "かわい そォに" (Poor guy...) "見てても つまんねェな" (How boring, tho)
***FG: "あっちで遊ぼ" (Let's play over there)
***K: "一緒に さがして くれんじゃ ないの かよ!" (SHOULDN'T YOU HELP ME FIND IT!?)
**正座オニゴッコとは (What is Seiza*) *kneeling with the tops of the feet flat on the floor, and sitting on the soles
***MM: "そろそろ いいんやねエか?" (Almost there... Are you ok?)
***FG: "そ... そやな" (Y-yes...)
***DB: "チビライアは せいさ 正座 しないの?" (Why Dino Torch is sitting straight?)
***MM: "そいつはトロいからいいんだよ" (He's quadrupedal, it's fine.)
***Dialogue box: "正座30分後のオニごっこ…" (After playing Seiza for 30 minutes...) "チョロプーの 考えた一 アソビである" (Monty Mole agreed this was a bad idea)
***FG: "す足が" (My feet)
***MM: "カか 入らん" (Never again)
*Pag. 106: 吹く (Squirt)
*Pag. 107
**冒険野郎 (Adventurers)
***MM: "ヒマに まァたなっちまった フ" (Finally some free time)
***DB: "そーっとそーっと" (Careful... careful...)
***FG: "のんきな奴っちやで" (What a carefree guy)
**カづく (apparently is "covering")
***FG: "ヒマやからかくれんばするてか?" (So you wanna have fun in your free time?)
***MM: "ああ" (Yep)
***FG: "それやったら人集めな" (And to do that you want to gather people)
***MM: "ああ" (Yep) "かくれんぼやるから仲間に入れ" (I'm gonna play hide and seek, wanna join?)
***DB: "ヒ〜ン" (Ok)
*Pag. 108
**ルール (Rules)
***MM: "これから 超ウルトラ かくれんぼ大会を 始める" (We're about to start a mega hide-and-seek match)
***Everyone: "ンな大げさな" (Agreement)
***MM: "そこの カメック魔法で消えんなよ" (Kamek, you can't use magic to disappear)
***K: "ははは" (Eh, eh, eh)
***NP: "ダメだそオ" (basically a "yeah it would be OP/unfair")
***FG: "そーやそーや" (Fair, fair)
***MM: "そこの 二人空に隠れんな。" (You two, you can't hide in the sky)
***FG: "なんで あかんのや" (Yeah, that seems fair)
***K: "とーぜん 地面の下も ダメだよな" (And of course, you can't hide underground)
***MM: "エ?" (Eh?)
**達人 (Smart)
***MM: [countdown] "よーし見つけ… ン?" (Ready or not, here I... Hmm?) "おォ?" (Oh?) "まさかな..." (I wonder...)
*Pag. 109
**スリル満点 (Thrilling)
***MM: "オ" (Oh.) "バ〜カ. 水の中に 隠れて やがるな…。" (You fool. You shouldn't have hidden in the water) "なんだ違うのか" (I got it wrong...)
***KT: "やらなくてよかったア" (Thank godness I didn't hid in there)
**さもありなん (What wrong?)
***MM: "よォ カロン" (Found you, Dry Bones.)
***DB: "やア見つかっ ちゃった。" (Damn, I've been found)
***MM: "危ねェトコ 隠れ てんなァ" (That's a dangeroud hiding spot)
***DB: "これくらい やんなくちゃ" (It wasn't easy to reach/Was it easy to find?)
***MM: "本当は 落ちたん だろ" (I think you actually fell)
***DB: "うんはや 早く たす 助けて" (Yeah, please help me quickly.)
*Pag. 110
**私はだれ? (Who are you?/Who am I?)
***K: "姿消すのは、ダメだって いうし… どうしよう。" (If I can't disappear... what should I do?) "よーし! これに 変身しよう" (Right! I can transform into this!) "オニ役 ごくろうさん" (Ehi bro [he say oni-san, but he say it in a way that is basically the "hey bro [as best friend]"])
***MM: "よォ" (Yo) "だれに 化けてるつもりだカメック!?" (What's with that masquerade, Kamek!?)
***DB: "ま?ま?" (Woah, woah)
***K: "オ オレ チョロプー だよ" (Oh, it's [that] Monty Mole)
**やる気充分 (Enough motivation)
***MM: "八ナちゃん見つけた" (Found you, Wiggler) "なめてんのか チビライタ" (That's it, Dino Torch?)
*Pag. 111: それでは皆さんお別れしましょ (Well then everyone, let's say goodbye)
**MM: "ょ〜し これでみんな見つけたな" (Yeah, I found everyone)
**K: "だれか一人忘れてないか?" (Aren't we forgetting someone?)
**DB: "うまく 隠れ てるなァ" (He's hiding very well)
**KT: "もオ出てもいいかな" (May I come out, now?)
**MM: "ノコノコか" (Koopa Troopa)
**DB: "これで全員だね" (That's everyone)
**FG: "ホナ帰ろうか" (Let's go home)
**K: "あ〜あ泣いちゃった" (Aw, he's crying)
**MM: "ジョーダン だよテレサウルス" (It's Eerie)
**Group 1: "じゃーな一" (See you, guys)
**Group 2: "また、遊ぼォなー" (Let's play again, sometimes)
*ワンダーランドふたたび..…おわり (Wonderland again - End)
[Fawful express later]
{{User:Mariuigi Khed/sig}}
So, I made my researches and... the case are two: either Sawada's "pre-SMKun" had just three volumes (all based off SMB:TLL) and never realized the SMB3 part, or the SMB3 part is simply UNFOUNDABLE. The only stuff I can find is about the SMBTLL's three volumes. There's also a third option that could be that maybe the manga is called "Super Mario Bros. 2 (the Lost Levels)" but does contain a SMB3 part, but I can only find covers, the three volume stack and NOTHING ELSE. I can't even buy it, 'cause it's sold out. {{User:Mariuigi Khed/sig}}


== Re: Spanish Dialogue ==
== Re: Spanish Dialogue ==
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==Mega Monty==
==Mega Monty==
In regards to [[Special:Diff/3513392|this]]: like I mentioned [[Talk:Undergrunt#Comments|before]], proposals aren't "polls" exactly, but also, I've noticed that the lines between Mega Moles and big Monty Moles are [[Talk:Choropūko|blurred]] when it comes to manga. It seems [[Special:Diff/3500174|more]] [[Special:Diff/2996648|and]] [[Special:Diff/3506971|more]] like Mega Moles were supposed to ''be'' big Monty Moles at the time. I'm probably going to make a discussion or proposal on it sometime next month, so keep an eye out for it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:40, December 4, 2021 (EST)
In regards to [[Special:Diff/3513392|this]]: like I mentioned [[Talk:Undergrunt#Comments|before]], proposals aren't "polls" exactly, but also, I've noticed that the lines between Mega Moles and big Monty Moles are [[Talk:Choropūko|blurred]] when it comes to manga. It seems [[Special:Diff/3500174|more]] [[Special:Diff/2996648|and]] [[Special:Diff/3506971|more]] like Mega Moles were supposed to ''be'' big Monty Moles at the time. I'm probably going to make a discussion or proposal on it sometime next month, so keep an eye out for it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:40, December 4, 2021 (EST)
==Usage of <nowiki>{{talk}}</nowiki>==
Hello, I've been noticing that you've been using <nowiki>{{talk}}</nowiki> throughout multiple talk pages. The questions you are asking do not require the template; the template is saved for more pressing concerns that require attention, not regarding niche material or edits that concern about minor trivia points. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 02:26, December 7, 2021 (EST)
== Ban Appeal ==
I am so sorry, I just wanted to make my sister have a Mario Wiki account. I did ask her about the proposal and she did agree. I did not know that it was bad to do so and would result in a ban. Hopefully I can be unblocked cause I was not trying to cause any harm since 3 months is way to extreme. Please just give me one more chance because I regret my actions. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 09:03, December 15, 2021 (EST)
How do I ban appeal anyways since I feel like being banned for 3 months for giving my sister an account is pretty harsh? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 17:54, December 16, 2021 (EST)
:At best you were fishing for votes if you are telling the truth, at worst you made a sockpuppet account to try and affect the outcome of a proposal. Whether you're telling the truth about this or not, you broke rules, after already being blocked previously for other violations. I can tell you right now that any appeal you would make wouldn't be successful. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 18:16, December 16, 2021 (EST)
==Indefnite block==
Hello, your account has been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppeting as {{User|TheSniveLife}} while you were banned. If you feel you were unfairly blocked, then please explain the situation to us via [[Special:EmailUser/MarioWiki_Admins|email]]. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 13:05, December 30, 2021 (EST)
:That wasn’t my sock puppet, I believe that was just an entirely different user. I do not think being blocked forever is a fair punishment so is there anything I can do to get unbanned? I am a good user and great at editing so I still want to help improve the wiki. Also I am sorry for responding so late. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 23:39, January 10, 2022 (EST)
I think it's worth mentioning that this user appears to have [https://tcrf.net/Talk:Paper_Mario:_The_Origami_King created an account on TCRF under the same name to ask questions]. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 22:37, January 10, 2022 (EST)
::I think they are the same, since the TCRF questions is very similar to the one asked here: https://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Paper_Mistake_Buzzy_Beetle [[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 23:33, January 10, 2022 (EST)
:::I don’t think that user should automatically be considered my sock puppet just because they were curious about a question I asked. Other people might be interested in the subject so I don’t think it is the best idea to falsely accuse people like this. Also no offense to you Sdman213, but you removed a ton of vital info from the manga sections on the Monty Mole species pages. I would recommend undoing what you did and only remove minor puzzle cameos or useless info. I hope you understand and can improve. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 23:39, January 10, 2022 (EST)
::::There was too much in common between the two accounts for it to be a coincidence. The wiki staff recieved a claim that you blackmailed TheSniveLife to edit the wiki in your place, which I struggle to believe. Even if that is true, it's proof the accounts were connected in some way and the indefinite block is deserved. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 05:25, January 11, 2022 (EST)
:::::So your basically saying that I deserve to be indefinitely blocked just because another account asked for some sprites? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 17:51, January 11, 2022 (EST)
::::::Read beyond the second sentence of my previous comment. The e-mail recieved to the staff from the user TheSniveLife stated you (written as "the guy who was banned") kept annoying and blackmailing them to make edits for you. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 18:34, January 11, 2022 (EST)
:::::::Well I never tried to annoy or blackmail them and if I did I probably did it without knowing. I am actually sorry for what I did and I do want to correct my mistakes. Is there anyway I can improve my actions and become a better user, or will I have to be banned forever? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 19:09, January 11, 2022 (EST)
::::::::If you can demonstrate improvement in the future, you can send an appeal at the link Ray Trace gave you. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:36, January 11, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::Keep in mind that "indefinite" does not mean "permanent", it simply means that there is no set date for you to get automatically unbanned. You can try to send an appeal through the email I linked you and we'll discuss in the staff channel. If you feel like a mistake has been made, make sure you thoroughly explain everything to us. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 20:50, January 11, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::Oh, I thought it meant forever, sorry for thinking that and getting angry. I will send a ban appeal soon explaining why I did the things I did and hopefully I can get unbanned and not sock puppet anymore cause I like editing on the wiki and I want to make the wiki the best it can be. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 02:00, January 12, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::Also I wrote my ban appeal now so if you want to respond just leave the message here. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 01:14, January 13, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::::Sorry for being impatient but I am still waiting for a response to my ban appeal. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 17:00, January 14, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::::This has been brought up between the staff and discussion is still ongoing. You will recieve an email once a consensus is reached. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 17:02, January 14, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::::::Oh ok, makes sense that it would take time. I will just be patient for now. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 17:20, January 14, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::::::Also, I prefer if the consensus is on my talk page as well but if it is only on email then I can be flexible. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 15:47, January 16, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::::::::We primarily discuss the ban on the staff forums on Marioboards. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 15:50, January 16, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::::::::Oh ok, so I will get the email after you guys finish discussing it? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 16:32, January 16, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::::::::::We'll email to you once discussion has been finished. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 16:34, January 16, 2022 (EST)
== A Message for Sdman213 and Mariugi Khed ==
Although I am banned, I do have some things to tell you guys. First of all, for Sdman213, I saw what you did for the manga sections in the Monty Mole species pages and they looked terrible. You removed vital info and entire volumes for no reason (like volumes 10 and 13 of Super Mario-kun and removing the gattai monster info), as well as dumbing down stuff for no reason (like referring to Super Choropū as a generic enlarged Monty Mole when their name was fully confirmed. And considering a Monty Mole in volume 6 that was helping Donkey Kong Jr. win a race as two different Monty Moles when they return to sabotage the race), and finally, you removed anything about design changes for no reason despite mentioning design changes in manga being important. There are many other problems I have with what you did so I do suggest that you revert the all of the manga section edits back to what they were originally (before I got the being banned forever thing) and I hope you understand my problems and I hope you can improve and not do stuff like this again so that the page isn’t messy and bad. For Mariugi Khed, since I am banned, I would like you to help add info for the 4koma manga (starting with 4koma Manga Theater and then 4koma Manga Kingdom) since your really good at helping get info. You can always look at the scans to see any thing you missed. If you do something wrong or anything I can always help tell you what to improve. I hope your down with helping me and both of you can understand and help. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 18:04, January 25, 2022 (EST)
:I just want to tell you that the MarioWiki policy says to not cover every little thing story-wise(because it often makes [[Eggo-Dil|flowery]] and/or grimdark writing), Sdman was just summarizing. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 18:17, January 25, 2022 (EST)