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== Adding rules on the proper regional difference terminology ==
== Adding rules on the proper regional difference terminology ==
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I made some of the minor changes over on the Glossary, but I honestly think that there should be mention of what terminology to use here on the Manual of Style. Recently, some users used the "PAL" terminology on both [[List of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U quotes]] and [[Boo's Favorite Haunt]], to name a few examples...'''which contained content related to either or both a 3DS and/or Wii U game''', which don't use any analog connections. It might be obvious that these users didn't know about that extra rule in mind as they made those edits, but still. What do you guys think? Should there be a section on any of the official rules stating what terminology to use or should it just be relegated to the glossary like it is now? – [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 00:10, July 7, 2019 (EDT)
I made some of the minor changes over on the Glossary, but I honestly think that there should be mention of what terminology to use here on the Manual of Style. Recently, some users used the "PAL" terminology on both [[List of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U quotes]] and [[Boo's Favorite Haunt]], to name a few examples...'''which contained content related to either or both a 3DS and/or Wii U game''', which don't use any analog connections. It might be obvious that these users didn't know about that extra rule in mind as they made those edits, but still. What do you guys think? Should there be a section on any of the official rules stating what terminology to use or should it just be relegated to the glossary like it is now? – [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 00:10, July 7, 2019 (EDT)
:Still waiting for a response... – [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 15:08, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
:Still waiting for a response... – [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 15:08, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
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==Stubs==
==Stubs==
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I know we delete new stubs automatically, but what about stubs that have been that way for a long time? Those should be just as acceptable for deletion, in my opinion. If they’ve been that way for years, they should be deleted if it’s clear that nobody has expanded it yet, despite the massive timeframe. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 13:15, August 5, 2019 (EDT)
I know we delete new stubs automatically, but what about stubs that have been that way for a long time? Those should be just as acceptable for deletion, in my opinion. If they’ve been that way for years, they should be deleted if it’s clear that nobody has expanded it yet, despite the massive timeframe. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 13:15, August 5, 2019 (EDT)
:Can you give an example? --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 13:33, August 5, 2019 (EDT)
:Can you give an example? --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 13:33, August 5, 2019 (EDT)
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==On NTSC/PAL==
==On NTSC/PAL==
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Now this may get me flamed into oblivion, but I personally think that they shouldn't have been changed. "British English" is outright misleading, because other regions in Europe speak English (and probably get English game dubs) as well. Besides, "NTSC" and "PAL" are more than just terms for encoding technologies now; they're used as common terminology for America and Europe. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 12:53, October 9, 2019 (EDT)
Now this may get me flamed into oblivion, but I personally think that they shouldn't have been changed. "British English" is outright misleading, because other regions in Europe speak English (and probably get English game dubs) as well. Besides, "NTSC" and "PAL" are more than just terms for encoding technologies now; they're used as common terminology for America and Europe. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 12:53, October 9, 2019 (EDT)
:Agreed a thousand times over. The most accurate term would be something along the lines of "Nintendo of Europe's localisation". <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 18:42, February 24, 2020 (EST)
:Agreed a thousand times over. The most accurate term would be something along the lines of "Nintendo of Europe's localisation". <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 18:42, February 24, 2020 (EST)
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== "Captain Obvious" debut ==
== "Captain Obvious" debut ==


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This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I've been removing it when I see it, but I feel starting a proposal is going overboard so I wanted to have a discussion here. Often times in history sections, it will state that a particular game is a subject's debut in that series. I feel this is unnecessary since it's already made fairly obvious by the fact that we don't mention any earlier games in that series in their history sections anyway, and that it should be discouraged (along with "after a long/X year absence", but that's probably a separate discussion). --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:08, August 26, 2020 (EDT)
This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I've been removing it when I see it, but I feel starting a proposal is going overboard so I wanted to have a discussion here. Often times in history sections, it will state that a particular game is a subject's debut in that series. I feel this is unnecessary since it's already made fairly obvious by the fact that we don't mention any earlier games in that series in their history sections anyway, and that it should be discouraged (along with "after a long/X year absence", but that's probably a separate discussion). --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:08, August 26, 2020 (EDT)
:It also bothers me, though worth noting is that generally writing acts independently from headers (hence why we mention titles in the game sections' writing instead of just linking through the header). That being said, the "previous games not mentioned" thing is still valid, though I feel it's simply a way to quickly link to the series page, if a little forced. Granted, I also dislike "forced"-looking links, like linking the words "character/enemy/item/etc" to a respective list thereof, though that is yet another discussion. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:45, August 26, 2020 (EDT)
:It also bothers me, though worth noting is that generally writing acts independently from headers (hence why we mention titles in the game sections' writing instead of just linking through the header). That being said, the "previous games not mentioned" thing is still valid, though I feel it's simply a way to quickly link to the series page, if a little forced. Granted, I also dislike "forced"-looking links, like linking the words "character/enemy/item/etc" to a respective list thereof, though that is yet another discussion. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:45, August 26, 2020 (EDT)
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== "When doing..." vs. "When so-and-so does..." ==
== "When doing..." vs. "When so-and-so does..." ==


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I've noticed a lot of edits (such as [[Special:Diff/3544455|this one]] and [[Special:Diff/3545220|this one]]) that change "When doing such-and-such" wording to "When so-and-so does such-and-such". However, I was not under the impression that "When doing..." is wrong in any way. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 19:30, January 22, 2022 (EST)
I've noticed a lot of edits (such as [[Special:Diff/3544455|this one]] and [[Special:Diff/3545220|this one]]) that change "When doing such-and-such" wording to "When so-and-so does such-and-such". However, I was not under the impression that "When doing..." is wrong in any way. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 19:30, January 22, 2022 (EST)
:I think you should ask the user who made these edits. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 19:39, January 22, 2022 (EST)
== Courier New font ==
Should we avoid using the Courier New font for wikicode on this page? That font looks too thin on today's hi-res screens. --[[User:Dine2017|Dine2017]] ([[User talk:Dine2017|talk]]) 10:27, July 23, 2022 (EDT)
:It does look thin but I think it's still legible. I can change it to the <nowiki><tt></tt></nowiki> code to match it with the editor text font if that's more preferable. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 07:29, July 25, 2022 (EDT)