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 ==Split into List of Stickers in Paper Mario: Sticker Star==
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+{{SettledTPP}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-3|Do not split}}
 In most cases on the wiki, things like this are split into separate articles, one for the concept and one that is listed. However this is not the case here as they are merged. The list clogs up the majority of the page and will look better off as part of a separate article.
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 Finally, are we just splitting Stickers, or are we going to to take Things and Scraps into account as well? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 19:09, 1 December 2015 (EST)
+== Things ==
+Hi, since things are back in ''Color Splash'', think we can make Things into a separate article again? [[User:Weedle McHairybug|Weedle McHairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle McHairybug|talk]]) 04:37, 9 October 2016 (EDT)
+:Yeah I suppose that could work, they actually should be split. {{User:The RPG Gamer/sig}} 04:40, 9 October 2016 (EDT)
+== Things, things, and more things. ==
+Not sure where I should put this, so I'm doing it here. Whether in the article, or creating a separate page for them, can we get a list of how to get each Thing? [[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 13:10, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+:That info might be better suited in each individual location article for the game. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 13:19, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+::Actually, why ''haven't'' Things been given their own articles yet? Each one has its own spot in the game's museum, which is enough to show that they're separate things. Different locations, animations, prices, uses, Action Commands, and some of them even return in ''Color Splash''. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 13:58, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+:::At that point we might as well split all the Stickers and Battle Cards too, obviously with the ones in both games sharing an article. After all, they're just as important as Badges and arguably more so than Key Items. I was originally thinking that we should at least have a Thing page to cover them all, but then realized they're still technically Stickers/Battle Cards, which would make not having them on those pages be awkward but also having them there and on a Thing page be a potential violation of once and only once. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:06, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+::::We have articles like [[List of badges in Paper Mario]], and all those badges have their own articles. I think the same could work with these Stickers/Battle Cards and Things. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 14:49, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+:::::That's a good point, I noticed that after I made the comment. I think we definitely could do it, but I'd like to see some more discussion or consensus first before pushing ahead with a proposal. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 15:02, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+::::::I agree, especially since this could also open up the incentive to split out every clothing item from the ''Mario & Luigi'' series. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:47, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+:::::::There's been a similar discussion on [[Talk:Battle Card (Paper Mario: Color Splash)#Split]]. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 18:06, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+:::::::: (Me thinking: What have I done?) So, what's the decision? Make an article for each Thing, or list where to find them in locations, or make every Stocker and Thing it's own article? [[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 19:45, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+:::::::::Consensus so far seems to be give an article to every Thing, and each type of Sticker and Battle Card (i.e. Hopslipper, Line Jump, Slaphammer etc.) gets its own article, and obviously anything in Color Splash that returned from Sticker Star would just be on the original's article. This is a pretty big change though, so it should probably be a proposal at some point. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:31, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+::::::::::I might be able to help with the Sticker Star stuff, but not Color Splash. I don't own that. [[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 20:51, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
+I'll make as many sticker pages as I can, if I get an OK from someone... [[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 21:26, May 27, 2020 (EDT)
+:Sure, go ahead. I'd like to get our SS/CS coverage improved in time for ''The Origami King''. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 21:30, May 27, 2020 (EDT)
+::OK, I may need a little help with a template and such... I'm not very good at editing. Should I model it after a stereotypical item page?[[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 21:31, May 27, 2020 (EDT)
+Like Waluigi Time said, a big change like this should require a proposal. Please consider that first before enacting the suggested changes. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 01:04, May 28, 2020 (EDT)
+:If you all don't mind, may I start the proposal? {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 01:17, May 28, 2020 (EDT)
+::Sure, go right ahead. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 02:05, May 28, 2020 (EDT)
+:::Sounds good to me. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:04, May 28, 2020 (EDT)
+Was a proposal started? Because I looked at the proposals page and didn't see anything. [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 11:06, May 29, 2020 (EDT)
+Guys, I can't find the proposal. Was one even started? [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 09:40, June 2, 2020 (EDT)
+:I don’t think it has been started. [[User:Duckfan77|Duckfan77]] ([[User talk:Duckfan77|talk]]) 13:04, June 9, 2020 (EDT)
+::I've finally started the proposal. I've been a bit busy lately, sorry for the wait. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 22:33, June 27, 2020 (EDT)
+== About that identifier ==
+I've always found it weird that this page has an identifier. The other sticker page is for ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', and since we prioritize ''Mario'' coverage over ''Super Smash Bros.'', shouldn't this be the primary sticker page? {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 17:12, July 28, 2020 (EDT)
+:Sounds about right. Something else that's weird, anytime I try to access this specific page from my email or a couple other links, it takes me to a page that's labeled as ''Sticker (Paper Mario: Sticker Star'' while the actual page is ''Sticker (Paper Mario: Sticker Star)''. This also happens with the talk page. I don't know if that's just me, but I'd like an explanation. {{unsigned|Magolor04726}}
+::That's just something that occasionally happens with links ending with parentheses, not something specific to this page. Anyway, I agree that this should be moved. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 18:38, July 28, 2020 (EDT)
+:::Definitely should be moved, I planned to do this eventually but haven't had time because, [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Sticker_(Paper_Mario:_Sticker_Star)&hidelinks=1 well]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 01:16, July 29, 2020 (EDT)
+::::Of course, we can always ask {{User|porplemontage}} to use text replacement. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 20:42, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
+== "Five Years Later" Proposal ==
+{{SettledTPP}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|cancelled}}
+I will start out by saying, yes, there has been a proposal earlier on, and as you can see, the outcome has passed. However, now that the modern games have chosen to adopt this format, this may have just become a relevant topic again.
+Since [[Paper Mario: Color Splash|two]] [[Paper Mario: The Origami King|games]] have passed since the release of ''Sticker Star'', this may have become more debatable. Although there are certain stickers appearing only in this game, [[Megaflash|including one-of-a-kind stickers]], there are certain stickers/Battle Cards/weapons which have appeared in all three recent games, as well as [[Thing]]s which made it two games over.
+Please note that I have no opinion on the matter, and as such do not support or oppose the results. I am simply interested in getting the opinions of the editors now that five years and two games have passed.
+However, I do feel that making a page for each of these stickers would be like making a page for every badge in ''[[Paper Mario]]'' ([[List of badges in Paper Mario|which has happened]]), and to some extent, the articles of clothing in the ''Mario & Luigi'' games. I believe so long as we have a location, price, use, durability rating for each and every sticker (most of which are supplied at the [[Sticker Museum]]), there is potential for splitting.
+('''NOTE:''' As this is my first official proposal, although the setup seems correct, there is probably something I forgot to do. If possible, please let me know. I simply ask you respect the topic and the opinions of the others.)
+'''Proposer''': {{User|The Mansion}}<br>
+'''Deadline''':  September 16, 2020, 13:13 GMT
+=== Split ===
+=== Don't Split ===
+=== Comments ===
+I've already proposed this, and it passed. [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_55#Split_the_Paper_Mario:_Sticker_Star_and_Paper_Mario:_Color_Splash_attacks]]. If you'd like to help me enact it, please feel free to. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 14:33, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
+:I will do so, I see a lot of people feel the same way, which is good. {{User:The Mansion/sig}} 14:39, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
+I'm confused: if there was already a passed proposal on this, then why is it being proposed again? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:50, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
+:Because they didn't see that because it wasn't on this page, obviously. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:32, September 2, 2020 (EDT)