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==Dear Lord (no offense to atheists :P)==
==Dear Lord (no offense to atheists :P)==
This article pretty much sucks and its like one of the main articles around here a group of pipe projecters need to get together and redo this or something...{{user:theused/sig}}
This article pretty much sucks and its like one of the main articles around here a group of pipe projecters need to get together and redo this or something...{{user:theused/sig}}
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Its not that they weren't allowed to be in the article, its just that this article needs some major updating.{{User:Knife/sig}} 17:56, 15 January 2008 (EST)
Its not that they weren't allowed to be in the article, its just that this article needs some major updating.{{User:Knife/sig}} 17:56, 15 January 2008 (EST)
==Possibility of a shooter?==
Please no! It would ruin the good Mario feeling! [[User:MarioMop]]
:[[Yoshi's Safari]] is a Mario shooter, released as early as 1993. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:03, 15 February 2008 (EST)
That's different. I meant a first-person 1 with lots of blood and gore.  [[User:MarioMop]]


==Beta SMG==
==Beta SMG==
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==DK==
==DK==
{{talk}}
Does anyone mind if I move the Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. games into the [[Donkey Kong (series)]] article, since the two games aren't really Mario games? I just want to make sure it's fine before I remove all that stuff. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
Does anyone mind if I move the Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. games into the [[Donkey Kong (series)]] article, since the two games aren't really Mario games? I just want to make sure it's fine before I remove all that stuff. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}


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== Prof. E. Gadd a main protagonist? ==
== Prof. E. Gadd a main protagonist? ==


I was thinking that maybe Prof. E. Gadd could be considered one of the main protagonists, I mean he has appeared in numerous games from ''[[Luigi's Mansion]]'', ''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]'', ''[[Mario Party 6]]'', ''[[Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time]]'', and now, ''[[Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon]]''. Not only that, but he also plays a relatively large part in most of these games. As well, he also invented many important inventions, such as the [[Poltergust 3000]], a staple of Luigi's abilities in spin-offs, [[F.L.U.D.D.]], and Bowser Jr.'s [[Magic Paintbrush]], which is among one of his signature abilities that he uses in nearly every one of his spin-off appearances. {{unsigned|MarioComix}}
I was thinking that maybe Prof. E. Gadd could be considered one of the main protagonists, I mean he has appeared in numerous games from ''[[Luigi's Mansion]]'', ''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]'', ''[[Mario Party 6]]'', ''[[Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time]]'', and now, ''[[Luigi's Mansion 2]]''. Not only that, but he also plays a relatively large part in most of these games. As well, he also invented many important inventions, such as the [[Poltergust 3000]], a staple of Luigi's abilities in spin-offs, [[F.L.U.D.D.]], and Bowser Jr.'s [[Magic Paintbrush]], which is among one of his signature abilities that he uses in nearly every one of his spin-off appearances. {{unsigned|MarioComix}}


:Now that you mention it, E. Gadd probably should be in there. He has had more game appearances and roles than Rosalina, and she is in the list. Also, remember to sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which automatically produces your signature. I had to add the unsigned template for you. [[User:ThirdMarioBro|ThirdMarioBro:]] [[User talk:ThirdMarioBro|<span style="color:red">Mario,</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/ThirdMarioBro|<span style="color:green">Luigi,</span>]] <span style="color:blue">and me!</span> 22:20, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
:Now that you mention it, E. Gadd probably should be in there. He has had more game appearances and roles than Rosalina, and she is in the list. Also, remember to sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which automatically produces your signature. I had to add the unsigned template for you. [[User:ThirdMarioBro|ThirdMarioBro:]] [[User talk:ThirdMarioBro|<span style="color:red">Mario,</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/ThirdMarioBro|<span style="color:green">Luigi,</span>]] <span style="color:blue">and me!</span> 22:20, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
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== Mario Spin-off Series ==
== Mario Spin-off Series ==


Shouldn't we add a [[Luigi's Mansion (series)|Luigi's Mansion series]] page? Because there is a [[Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon|sequel]] to the [[Luigi's Mansion|first game]]? {{User:Nintendo Wii and EA/sig}}
Shouldn't we add a [[Luigi's Mansion (series)|Luigi's Mansion series]] page? Because there is a [[Luigi's Mansion 2|sequel]] to the [[Luigi's Mansion|first game]]? {{User:Nintendo Wii and EA/sig}}
:Not until the game is released. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}} 16:55, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:Not until the game is released. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}} 16:55, 13 June 2011 (EDT)


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==Luigi series?==
==Luigi series?==
Should there be a new section in Partner Series focused on Luigi?  Luigi is the only playable character in [[Mario is Missing]], [[Luigi's Mansion]], and [[Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon]].--[[User:Platform|Platform]] 13:14, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
Should there be a new section in Partner Series focused on Luigi?  Luigi is the only playable character in [[Mario is Missing]], [[Luigi's Mansion]], and [[Luigi's Mansion 2]].--[[User:Platform|Platform]] 13:14, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
:No. ''Mario is Missing!'' has NOTHING to do with the ''Luigi's Mansion'' games and they should NOT be grouped together at all. The ''Luigi's Mansion'' games can have their own sub-series if people ''insist'' (I personally feel like series should have three or more titles before we start singling them out here, but I know others disagree and there's no rule against two-title series...), but it's definitely not enough to make an independent ''Luigi'' Partner Series. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 22:45, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
:No. ''Mario is Missing!'' has NOTHING to do with the ''Luigi's Mansion'' games and they should NOT be grouped together at all. The ''Luigi's Mansion'' games can have their own sub-series if people ''insist'' (I personally feel like series should have three or more titles before we start singling them out here, but I know others disagree and there's no rule against two-title series...), but it's definitely not enough to make an independent ''Luigi'' Partner Series. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 22:45, 16 September 2011 (EDT)
::Lots of Yoshi, Wario, and DK games have nothing to do with each other internally as well.  Luigi's Mansion can be a sub-series within a Luigi series.  Of course there are not many games with Luigi as sole protagonist so it might appear awkward for a three game series with two of them in one sub-series and with one dangling alone, but it's still within the rules.--[[User:Platform|Platform]] 05:37, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
::Lots of Yoshi, Wario, and DK games have nothing to do with each other internally as well.  Luigi's Mansion can be a sub-series within a Luigi series.  Of course there are not many games with Luigi as sole protagonist so it might appear awkward for a three game series with two of them in one sub-series and with one dangling alone, but it's still within the rules.--[[User:Platform|Platform]] 05:37, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
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:I agree with M&L. Just because it doesn't have every little detail of the game doesn't mean it cant be an FA. Its 63 pages!--[[User:Toadshroom|Toadshroom]] 23:05, 18 February 2012 (EST)
:I agree with M&L. Just because it doesn't have every little detail of the game doesn't mean it cant be an FA. Its 63 pages!--[[User:Toadshroom|Toadshroom]] 23:05, 18 February 2012 (EST)
::Hey do me a favor and actually read the requirements and article has to meet to be a FA {{User|Raven Effect}}
::Hey do me a favor and actually read the requirements and article has to meet to be a FA {{User|Raven Effect}}
==I have an idea!==
I searched around Mario Wiki and I didn't see what I was thinking of, A article on all Power-Up's in the Mario series!If there is one, I need to search more!but if there isn't, I would like create a page with all power-Up's & see if other's can help! [[File:Petey Pirahna Ground Idle.gif]] [[User:Peteyking64|Peteyking]] [[File:KingBooMKW.png]]
[[List of Power-Ups]].
{{User:Lindsay151/sig}}
Thank's! Iv'e been looking all over to find this!{{unsigned|Peteyking64}}
==Addition of other main characters / species / items==
Soon, after many things reprising their roles in the new ''Mario'' games in 2011, 2012 and next year, soon it'll be time to add a few more main characters and items after the release of ''[[Paper Mario: Sticker Star]]'' and ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U]]''. I think characters like [[Gooper Blooper]], [[Metal Mario (character)|Metal Mario]] and the [[Star Coin]] deserve to be among the main characters and items.
And we don't care if we use miscellaneous or game arts in this article. It's because they look great.--[[User:Prince Ludwig|Prince Ludwig]] ([[User talk:Prince Ludwig|talk]]) 23:16, 4 November 2012 (EST)
:Also [[Spike (enemy)|Spike]] and [[Swooper]] (but don't use ''Galaxy'' artwork, I'd prefer to see the ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' sprite). --[[Special:Contributions/94.101.50.230|94.101.50.230]]
::Yeah, but recently, I've noticed the addition of minor characters in the article. And I don't know who did it for sure yet. And Spikes and Swoopers can be added in the article's species section.--[[User:Prince Ludwig|Prince Ludwig]] ([[User talk:Prince Ludwig|talk]]) 18:53, 17 December 2012 (EST)
== Cancelled Games ==
I noticed that a lot of the games [[List of cancelled games and vaporware|here]] are not listed [[Mario (series)#Cancelled Games and Tech Demos|here]]. We should add them, right ? I'm just asking, because I don't want to do things I shouldn't do. {{User:Banon/sig}} 16:06, 24 December 2012 (EST)
:We really need one of those [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold "be bold"] page.
(that's yes). --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 16:10, 24 December 2012 (EST)
::Ok, I will do it when I have time :) Thanks ! {{User:Banon/sig}} 16:22, 26 December 2012 (EST)
:By Luck, I was just about to do that.. but I'll leave that for you and check another thing.. Let's Click [Alt + X]!--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 10:54, 8 April 2013 (EDT)
==Fawful==
Shouldn't Fawful be in the antagonists section? [[User:Rpg gamer|RPG Gamer. I HAVE RPG!!]] ([[User talk:Rpg gamer|talk]]) 07:59, 3 April 2013 (EDT)
:Maybe, but the only thing those sections cover is from the non-RPG games, so if you're going to add Fawful, you might as well add other major recurring RPG characters. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 12:11, 3 April 2013 (EDT)
::Aren't most rpg characters like one and done style characters because besides fawful and the shroobs I can't think of a singe other reoccurring RPG villain. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}
:::Hm, me neither. And it doesn't make any sense that only mainstream Mario games are thoroughly covered here. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 12:17, 3 April 2013 (EDT)
::::I don't think it was intentionally set up like that it's just that there aren't very many reoccurring villains in rpg games so nobody ever added them (personally i'm not even sure if Fawful should be on the list or not). {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}
== The Podoboo picture needs improvement ==
Don't you think the Podoboo pic is too pixelated? Someone please post a new one [[User:Splouge|Splouge]] ([[User talk:Splouge|talk]]) 11:21, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
:There aren't many big single Lava Bubble (Podoboo) artwork, but it's possible to get a model of it and upload it.<br>{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 20:00, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
== Some characters and species are missing ==
I think Biddybuds , Para-Biddybuds, and Peepas should be in the species section. And what about Boom Boom and Pom Pom? [[User:Splouge|Splouge]] ([[User talk:Splouge|talk]]) 12:01, 14 August 2013 (EDT)
:They have not appeared in enough games to be significant enough, considering they are generic enemies. I'm not sure about the other two though. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:49, 14 August 2013 (EDT)
== Metal Mario? Seriously? ==
Sorry I keep posting too much. But Metal Mario hasn't been in many games. Why is he on the list? And I think that Fire Snakes should be on the list. I'll add Fire Snakes, but I should get permission to remove Metal Mario. [[User:Splouge|Splouge]] ([[User talk:Splouge|talk]]) 11:05, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
== Nabbit? ==
Should we add Nabbit to the antagonist list even though he only has two games his popularity is growing rapidly and he even has a plush form.
{{unsigned|‎DolphinYoshi}}
:Likely not. No other sidescrolling games have been released since NSMBU and he hasn't appeared since NSLU so it can't be for certain if this will be a trend or if he is just confined to technically NSMBU. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:56, 14 February 2014 (EST)
== Boom Boom ==
I think Boom Boom should really be added to the bad guy list as he has appeared in lots of games. [[User:DolphinYoshi/sig]]
== Mario Franchise ==
I don't understand why this page is labelled "Mario Series" when it describes a franchise. The side-scrolling Mario games, Mario Kart, the Mario RPGs, etc. are each clearly different series, even though they share many characters. Aside from the fact that the games are drastically different, they use different numbering systems (the 7 in Mario Kart 7 does not count any games other than Mario Kart games). Changing this would also solve a lot of the problem people mention above about series/sub-series/sub-sub-series distinctions. [[Special:Contributions/50.81.150.190|50.81.150.190]] 17:10, 20 June 2014 (EDT)
:This page isn't one of our better articles in the wiki so excuse that. It labels series that shouldn't be covered here but in their respective series articles. The page itself is a mess and I think needs a gigantic overhaul. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:13, 20 June 2014 (EDT)
==Rosalina a main character?==
Um, isn't calling Rosalina one of the main characters a bit much. A main character would be a character who has been around since the Super Nintendo games and be in every game since his/her debut. Rosalina is as new as the Wii ages and only in 3 mainstreem games, not in any 2D side-scrolling games
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== Amp ==
The [[Amp]]'s picture shows it from SMG, but I think it should show a pic from NSMBU. [[User:DREAMYDARKBOWSER777|DREAMYDARKBOWSER777]] ([[User talk:DREAMYDARKBOWSER777|talk]]) 21:15, 1 February 2015 (EST) GWAHAHA!