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:*I can see the argument for merging Preying Mantas, I just thought it was a relevant example (and wasn't expecting people to want to merge it). So sure, I'll drop that particular example. | :*I can see the argument for merging Preying Mantas, I just thought it was a relevant example (and wasn't expecting people to want to merge it). So sure, I'll drop that particular example. | ||
:*Regarding Swoop, I'm not sure what to make of your counterargument. Yes, "onomatopoeia of wings flapping" isn't exclusive to bats in the way "onomatopoeia of croaking" <s>isn't</s> '''is''' exclusive to frogs, but so what? Why is that where you draw the line? | :*Regarding Swoop, I'm not sure what to make of your counterargument. Yes, "onomatopoeia of wings flapping" isn't exclusive to bats in the way "onomatopoeia of croaking" <s>isn't</s> '''is''' exclusive to frogs, but so what? Why is that where you draw the line? | ||
:*Finally, regarding the point about other enemies having creative names in multiple languages. We only have one other name for the Yoshi's Story frog. It's the German name "Börki". It's derived from an onomatopoeia, sure, but it's still a name. Unless your argument is that the names aren't as creative or clever as those of Scaredy Rat, in which case, again, why is that where you draw the line? | :*Finally, regarding the point about other enemies having creative names in multiple languages. We only have one other name for the Yoshi's Story frog. It's the German name "Börki". It's derived from an onomatopoeia, sure, but it's still a name. Unless your argument is that the names aren't as creative or clever as those of Scaredy Rat, in which case, again, why is that where you draw the line? {{Unsigned|Blinker}} | ||
::<s>"'Onomatopoeia of croaking' isn't exclusive to frogs": it is, actually, both in [https://www.google.com/search?q=ribbit+meaning English] and [https://www.tanoshiijapanese.com/dictionary/entry_details.cfm?entry_id=4482&element_id=195109 Japanese]. "Caw" (EN) or "Kaa" (JA) is what's used for a crow's croak if that's what you were getting at.</s> (Retracting because what I'm addressing was confirmed to be just a typo.)<br>"why is that where you draw the line": To reiterate what I've been repeating in the comments, I'm not drawing the line at one singular aspect or another. It's a multitude of traits that, combined, give a Mario species a "generic" or "specific" quality. Scaredy Rats, Goonies, Frogoons, Chain Chomps etc. have things going for them that warrant their current treatment; Yoshi's Story frogs are by all accounts just basic frogs that are being split from the catch-all frog article solely because of a Japanese name that is simply the sound a frog makes and originates from a third-party source. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 14:10, May 24, 2024 (EDT) | ::<s>"'Onomatopoeia of croaking' isn't exclusive to frogs": it is, actually, both in [https://www.google.com/search?q=ribbit+meaning English] and [https://www.tanoshiijapanese.com/dictionary/entry_details.cfm?entry_id=4482&element_id=195109 Japanese]. "Caw" (EN) or "Kaa" (JA) is what's used for a crow's croak if that's what you were getting at.</s> (Retracting because what I'm addressing was confirmed to be just a typo.)<br>"why is that where you draw the line": To reiterate what I've been repeating in the comments, I'm not drawing the line at one singular aspect or another. It's a multitude of traits that, combined, give a Mario species a "generic" or "specific" quality. Scaredy Rats, Goonies, Frogoons, Chain Chomps etc. have things going for them that warrant their current treatment; Yoshi's Story frogs are by all accounts just basic frogs that are being split from the catch-all frog article solely because of a Japanese name that is simply the sound a frog makes and originates from a third-party source. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 14:10, May 24, 2024 (EDT) | ||
:::Ugh, I made a typo, "is", not "isn't"... [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 14:15, May 24, 2024 (EDT) | :::Ugh, I made a typo, "is", not "isn't"... [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 14:15, May 24, 2024 (EDT) | ||