Editing User talk:Partier

== MLover ==

Are you the same user as {{user|MLover}}? If you still have access to it, please continue to use it. Note that this is the third instance you've created an account, so please remember to stick with one; any more accounts created from here on out will be blocked. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:33, 12 June 2018 (EDT)
:Okay. Next time you forget your password, contact an admin before you create a new account. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:21, 13 June 2018 (EDT)

== "Sequels" ==

Regarding your edits to ''[[Mario Party 9]]'', it's not confirmed that ''[[Mario Party 10]]'' nor ''[[Super Mario Party]]'' are sequels. Please don't add them back without a source proving that they are indeed sequels.

Also, please don't forget to use italics for game titles, i.e. <code><nowiki>''[[Super Mario Party]]''</nowiki></code> Thanks! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 12:14, 13 June 2018 (EDT)
:This information isn't important to ''Mario Party 9'', as [[Mario Party (series)]] keeps track of the chronology between all of them. Also, ''Super Mario Party'' isn't called "Mario Party 11". {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:24, 13 June 2018 (EDT)
I know It's not called Mario Party 11. People can call it that if they want to. And, Plus, It is the ELEVENTH Home game in the Mario Party series. The Home Games are pretty much the main games. I don't count the handhelds. Because a couple of them are released on the same year as other Mario Parties. Most of those don't even follow the same rules as the home games. People like me were waiting for a Mario Party 11 returning the old gameplay style. Originally onto Wii U. When the Switch was announced they hoped for the Switch. Nintendo gave everyone the Mario Party 11 they wanted, as Super Mario Party. {{User:Partier/sig}} 9:49, 13 June 2018 (EDT)

You can call it MP11 if you want to, but this wiki is an encyclopedia, so we only call them by their official names. {{User:YoshiEgg1990/sig}} 12:45, 13 June 2018 (EDT)
:That doesn't mean you can call it "Mario Party 11" on articles, since that isn't the official name. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:45, 13 June 2018 (EDT)
All right, All right, All right calm down guys. All I wanted to do is to have Super Mario Party redirected from Mario Party 11. Wikipedia redirects Mario Party 11 to Super Mario Party. Don't Believe me? go to this link. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_11 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_11] {{User:Partier/sig}}

:What Wikipedia does is irrelevant. These "in-between" games have happened previously with ''Advance'', ''Star Rush'' etc. so making a numbered redirect is unnecessary and also misleading; it's not the eleventh installment, and it's possible a numbered installment could release in the future. No one is being loud here, they're just telling you it's not a good idea. If you want a shortcut to this page, just search "SMP". {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:38, 16 June 2018 (EDT)

I don't care. I did not say it was the 11th installment. I said it is the 11th MAIN GAME (aka the home games)!!! And people who wanted it will call it that. Take Sonic Adventure 3/ Sonic Unleashed for example. Maybe Nintendo decided to use a new title instead of using the 11. But the 11th Game with a number is Mario Party: The top 100. Redirected from Mario Party 100. And Island Tour is redirected from Mario Party 3DS. You don't even call THIS the LEAST Bit of irrelevant!!! (Sorry, I could just get a little crazy sometimes, But still, I want a redirect.) {{User:Partier/sig}}
:[[Mario Party 3DS]] could probably be deleted, now that there [[Mario Party: Star Rush|are]] [[Mario Party: Island Tour|three]] [[Mario Party: The Top 100|titles]] it could refer to. The [[Mario Party 100]] redirect makes perfect sense. There's no number associated with ''[[Super Mario Party]]'', and again, calling it the eleventh title would be misleading, so I see no legitimate reason to make this redirect. Also, you're perfectly capable of restraining yourself through text, you have the time to think. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:30, 22 June 2018 (EDT)

Never mind this. I figured out how to redirect to a page. Check this out!!! [[Bad_Luck_Space]] {{User:Partier/sig}}
:Anyways, it's not a sequel. According to the description, it's a reimagining of the series. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:38, 22 June 2018 (EDT)

Forget it, you'll NEVER stop me from calling it Mario Party 11. I once got blocked from a fandom wiki page that ''I'' created once. [[User:Partier/sig]]
:All this does is tell you that it's not a bright idea. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:46, 22 June 2018 (EDT)
:What about if an actual ''Mario Party 11'' is released? What then? And your ''Sonic Unleashed'' comparison doesn't work at all, because it actually ''is'' connected to the Dreamcast ''Adventure'' games through the title by its Japanese name, ''Sonic World Adventure''. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:48, 22 June 2018 (EDT)

Also, undo our edits or recreate the page again and [[MarioWiki:Warning_policy#Level_two_offenses|you'll be in grounds for a warning.]] If your edits are disputed, ''do not participate in an edit war'' with other users about it. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:51, 22 June 2018 (EDT)
:Alongside that, is [[Bad Luck Space]] actually a name for [[Unlucky Space]] that we've seen so far? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:14, 22 June 2018 (EDT)
::Well it is translated to that in other languages I guess. I don't know how often it is searched for instead of "Unlucky" though. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:21, 22 June 2018 (EDT)

Adding to everyone else (except Alex95's comment above), at the very least, wait until another ''Mario Party'' series installment releases before creating that redirect. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:16, 22 June 2018 (EDT)

[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Yoshi876&curid=212395&diff=2453198&oldid=2445879 Yelling at admins] is ''not'' going to help you. Also, Alex is trying to get the Wikipedia redirect deleted, and I'd help had I an account on that. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:25, 22 June 2018 (EDT)
:Anyways, if it's not an official name in any capacity or is entirely speculative, it has no right to exist on here. There's a reason "Fishy Boopkins" doesn't redirect to [[Spike]] despite being very widely used thanks to a machinimist. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:27, 22 June 2018 (EDT)

{{warning|2=acting discourteous towards other users, edit warring}}
:No, your behavior is not acceptable and taking this conversation to another administrator outside of here is the last straw. Please stop acting discourteous before you break more rules. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:03, 22 June 2018 (EDT)

== Bad Luck Space ==

May i ask, when did Alex95 said that he agrees that Bad Luck Space and the Unlucky Space are the same? Even if Unlucky means Bad Luck, you shouldn't create such a redirect without a source that they are the same thing. {{User:YoshiEgg1990/sig}} 17:26, 28 June 2018 (EDT)

== Writing ==

For future reference, please avoid making rushed and poorly written [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Boo_Space&diff=next&oldid=2456382 edits], like random capitalisations, and remember to use proper grammar and adhere to the wiki's writing guidelines, including ''italicising'' game titles (e.g. [[Mario Party]] should be formatted as ''[[Mario Party]]''), and writing in the third-person perspective, not [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=DK_Space&diff=prev&oldid=2456376 first-person] (e.g. "I", "we"), or second-person (e.g. "you"). (The term "''Mario Parties''" should also be avoided.) Bad writing can make it hard to read and understand for readers and other users, and may even lead to the information getting outright removed. For more information, please read the [[MarioWiki:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:18, 29 June 2018 (EDT)

== Categories ==

Thanks for helping out with category work. Per [[MarioWiki:Categories]], however, when adding game-specific categories to pages like [[:Category:Mario Party 2 Spaces]], remember to remove the corresponding, general game category ([[:Category:Mario Party 2]]) as well. Please also to remember to categorise categories (as Toadette the Achiever has [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Mario_Party_Spaces&diff=2457284&oldid=2457279 done] for you) and to write the category descriptions properly according to what I explained above. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:11, 1 July 2018 (EDT)

== Villain Song ==

What is a "Villain Song"? And it is something we need to note? It doesn't seem important. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:35, 11 July 2018 (EDT)

A Villain Song is a song sung by a Villain or about a Villain. {{User:Partier/sig}}
:Is that an official term? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:51, 11 July 2018 (EDT)

Yes. {{User:Partier/sig}}
:Ah, where is it used then? I've never heard it before. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:57, 11 July 2018 (EDT)

Okay, first Super Mario Party/Mario Party 11. and now this. But anyway, the term was used MANY times. I don't know if Nintendo used the term, but I heard DreamWorks Animation staff used this song type name to describe the unused Villain Song of the Movie Trolls. (And, No, I'm not a girl. But, I do like DreamWorks Animation movies. A pity that the Mario Movie won't be made by The Company.) I'm just surprised that you have never heard it before. {{User:Partier/sig}}
:Never seen ''Trolls'' (and you don't have to be a girl to like DreamWorks, don't know why you brought that up). But just because DreamWorks uses it doesn't mean we should. It doesn't seem relevant to Mario in any way. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:10, 11 July 2018 (EDT)

Okay, but, I don't really know much, It was just used many times. I brought it up because the movie was a bit more girl aimed. Pretty much everybody uses that term. Maybe not you, because you never heard of it before. I have always dreamed of the Mario franchise getting a Villain Song. It was one the things the Franchise has been missing. Plus, when Mario + Rabbids came out, I was excited to hear that it has a Villain Song. It was like a dream come true. {{User:Partier/sig}}
:That's good for you, but I've never heard that term be used at all in ''this'' community until now from you. Even if it was used, is it that important to note? There's only one song in ''Mario + Rabbids'', and the other song you marked was from an album with singing anyway. Marking songs to differentiate who sings them can be done in the opening paragraph if the song has a page, by saying who specifically sings the song. Doesn't need to be said if it's a "Hero" or "Villain" Song as that doesn't make much sense. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:29, 11 July 2018 (EDT)

The Villain Song term is used more than "Hero song". Ignorance is Bliss is sung by Bowser, the main villain of the game franchise, While Phantom of the Bwahperah is sung by The Phantom. It may be worth noting (Not Nothing). You disagreed with me on the Mario Party 11 issue, Agreed with me on the Green Space revolution. And now, This. I would be glad if you agreed with me on this situation. If not, I'd be upset. I dislike disagreements. {{User:Partier/sig]]

::Okay, so I actually bothered to look it up, and [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VillainSong this from TV Tropes] is what I found. I understand what you're trying to say now, but it's more of a fan-term than anything (like with "Mario Party 11"). {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:37, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
:::I'm only disagreeing because the term appears to be fan made, like with the "Mario Party 11" name. For Green Space, the information you gave matched between games. And disagreements in general are going to happen in life, best learn that now. If you feel like gaining community approval for this term, perhaps something can be said on Phantom of the Bwahpera's talk page. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:55, 11 July 2018 (EDT)

I get it. But, I think this is important. Because, Villain Songs don't come to the Mario franchise often. And the Mario Party Home Games all were numbered until Super Mario Party, That's Why I refer it as Mario Party 11. That's Why Nintendo should officially Nickname it as Mario Party 11. Maybe, they were gonna call it that, but then, they might've decided to call it something else either as a joke, or the numbering is boring. Option 3: They Might've done this as one of the things to get Mario Party back on track, because the series is losing it's "Hoorays". And the Green Space, well, you can call me the Mario Historian. Did you know that the Game and Watch Mario Bros. Predated the arcade game. The date is BOTH on this wiki and Wikipedia. But Villain Songs, are pretty rare for the Mario Franchise. {{User:Partier/sig}}
:Pirate's Scorn? K. Rool's Finest Hour? Cheatsy's Life? Anyways, please stop the "Mario Party 11" thing, there is nothing indicating it to be true. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:11, 12 July 2018 (EDT)
::This isn't about Mario Party 11. If I wanted to confirm this, I just had to ask Nintendo about this. I tried to do this, but My computer has problems. Despite this, I love being on my computer. But, It can't click the Chat Tab. But, the real point, Is the Villain Songs thing. {{User:Partier/sig}}
:::And my point is that there's actually quite a few from the cartoons, so your point about them being uncommon is invalidated. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:22, 13 July 2018 (EDT)

== Reminder ==

{{reminder|2=forgoing the use of proper grammar and editing guidelines}}
Please remember to use proper grammar (namely periods/full stops at the end of sentences and ''correct'' capitalisation) and ''italicise'' game titles, as I've already explained above. Since you're editing for an encyclopedia, it's important that your information should at least follow basic grammatical conventions and wiki writing guidelines. I'd also like to echo what Alex95 said and tell you that TV Tropes jargon like "Villain Song" are fan terms, which shouldn't be used on articles. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:33, 11 July 2018 (EDT)

[[MarioWiki:Manual of Style#Italicizing titles|Recall the explanation regarding ''italics'' please.]] Titles for games, TV shows etc. like ''[[Mario Party]]'' must be formatted like this. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:52, July 17, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: Super Mario Party ==

Sorry for the delay in the response, but the official name for the game is Super Mario Party. Birdo may refer to it as the 11th Mario Party, but at the same time that is technically incorrect due to Advance and the like. In this case, I think it's best to let sleeping lions lie. {{User|Yoshi876}}

She's only talking about the home games. The handhelds didn't count (mostly because most of them did not follow the same rules). --[[User:Partier|Partier]] ([[User talk:Partier|talk]]) 02:35, 9 January 2019 (EST)

== Oy ==

[[MarioWiki:Proposals#Create a Mario Party 11 redirect|Take a look.]]
:-[[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:15, July 16, 2019 (EDT)

==Tables and commas==
When adding images to tables they do not need to be thumbnailed. Also, the first word after a comma is not capitalized. Thanks! {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 15:34, July 16, 2019 (EDT)

==SMW:Chapter 0==
According to the [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smwc0/super-mario-world-chapter-0 Kickstarter page] - "'''Super Mario World : Chapter 0 (Canceled) is the subject of an intellectual property dispute and is currently unavailable.'''" Therefore, I don't think it's wise to take their [http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/smwc0/super-mario-world-chapter-0/ Kicktraq link] at its word. If it can't be proven that they actually obtained real permission from Nintendo, the information should be moved to the [[list of Mario knockoffs acknowledged by Nintendo|list of ''Mario'' knockoffs acknowledged by Nintendo]]. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:29, August 13, 2019 (EDT)

It was the only other source I could find the information. If you are reading Alex95, that was NOT fan material. It was allowed by Nintendo. The creator wanted to get Nintendo's blessing. --[[User:Partier|Partier]] ([[User talk:Partier|talk]]) 13:36, August 13, 2019 (EDT)
:The only "proof" was him saying he'd get Nintendo's approval, but showed nothing on actually receiving it. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:40, August 13, 2019 (EDT)
::Adding to this, the game never even existed in the first place. The guy stole screenshots of an SMW beta recreation hack. {{User:Niiue/sig}} 13:42, August 13, 2019 (EDT)
::I found that Nintendo [https://i.imgur.com/fiPtMx0.png submitted a cease and desist] and never formally approved it according to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYn_Jqf3lKM YouTube] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MopjdZ8RlGY videos], so it does at least belong on that list of acknowledged knockoffs. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:45, August 13, 2019 (EDT)

== [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Toadette_the_Achiever&curid=298555&diff=2877717&oldid=2877267 This edit] ==

Don't do this. Nothing gives you the right to leave unwarranted, self-entitled, slightly belligerent messages. Do something like that again and you could have discipline for courtesy violations. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:00, February 10, 2020 (EST)

{{warning|2=acting discourteous and confrontation}}
Actually, I hadn't seen the rude proposal header in which you called anyone who disagreed with you "stupid idiots" ''or'' the courtesy-based warning above. This is definitely bad behavior and needs to stop. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:14, February 10, 2020 (EST)

Sorry, It was only meant to be a joke. Forgive me.--[[User:Partier|Partier]] ([[User talk:Partier|talk]]) 23:41, February 10, 2020 (EST)
:Please accept and tolerate the fact that people have different opinions than you, and that people's opinions change. While [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:FanOfYoshi&curid=258892&diff=2878218&oldid=2877820 this] isn't bad enough to get you a last warning, you are really, really, close to crossing that line. If you find yourself so mad at people having different opinions than what you have, you should step away from the computer. Your work isn't being "ruined". People have different opinions, and it was agreed to split the spaces. And the excuse of it being a joke doesn't work, simply because just because you think something is funny doesn't mean that others do. Plus, would you like someone to call you an idiot just because they wanted articles to be split? {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 17:39, February 11, 2020 (EST)

{{lastwarn}}
Yes, please calm yourself. There is no need for these outbursts. People will disagree with you, that happens, as I have [[##.22Sequels.22|said before]]. Also, do not drastically alter a proposal, even your own, just because you disagree with people. If you think a new proposal needs to happen, cancel the current one. Don't start attacking users just because they don't agree with you. That will result in a block if it keeps up. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:49, February 11, 2020 (EST)
::All I'm saying is that Just because it has a different name/design/function (slightly) does not mean it is a different space--[[User:Partier|Partier]] ([[User talk:Partier|talk]]) 19:51, February 11, 2020 (EST)
:::That is exactly what that means. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:45, February 11, 2020 (EST)
::::So are you. Don't use autism as an excuse. You are able to control yourself through text a lot easier than you can in reality. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:48, February 11, 2020 (EST)
:::::So, you are saying that The Miracle Space is a different space from the Chance Space. Right?--[[User:Partier|Partier]] ([[User talk:Partier|talk]]) 19:51, February 11, 2020 (EST)
::::::There's nothing different between them, aside from design and name. The function is exactly the same, and they are obviously meant to be the same thing. The Unlucky Space and Bad Luck Space may share the same role, but their functions are different due to them appearing in two different types of ''Mario Parties''. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:30, February 11, 2020 (EST)
:::::::The difference in function is how the system works. How the Bad Luck Space works is just a different way on how the system works. The only REAL difference is that they become more extreme spaces in the Homestretch. To me, The Extra Bad Luck Spaces are the REAL Bowser Space replacements. Do you get what I mean? --[[User:Partier|Partier]] ([[User talk:Partier|talk]]) 01:12, February 12, 2020 (EST)

== Files ==

Please keep in mind that files need to be categorised and licensed. After the description, there should be a license (see [[Help:License]]) based on what the image is (a screenshot, artwork, sprite etc.) and an image category found in [[:Category:MarioWiki images]]. So for a ''Super Mario Party'' sprite, you'd go from Category:MarioWiki images to "Images by game" and find "Super Mario Party Images", then add that category along with the license and description:

<pre>
==Summary==
The [[Blue Space]] from ''[[Super Mario Party]]''

==Licensing==
{{game-sprite}}

[[Category:Super Mario Party Images]]
</pre>

I strongly suggest using the [[Special:Upload]] function (the "Upload file" link under "tools" on the sidebar) to upload next time as this will make more sense and be easier when done from there. On Special:Upload, you only need to fill in the details in the "Summary" box and pick a license from a drop-down menu. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:56, May 12, 2020 (EDT)

== Proposals ==

Please read through the [[MarioWiki:Proposals|proposals rules]] before starting a proposal next time. You need to mark ongoing proposals with {{tem|TPP}}, and the deadline was incorrect again; it needs to be two weeks after the starting date for talk page proposals. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:43, September 24, 2021 (EDT)