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I have watched the trailers a few times already, but where exactly do Chargin' Chucks appear? I had difficulty navigating the websites so I don't know if they're on there. [[User:Mario Sakuraba|Mario Sakuraba]] ([[User talk:Mario Sakuraba|talk]]) 17:10, June 12, 2020 (EDT)
I have watched the trailers a few times already, but where exactly do Chargin' Chucks appear? I had difficulty navigating the websites so I don't know if they're on there. [[User:Mario Sakuraba|Mario Sakuraba]] ([[User talk:Mario Sakuraba|talk]]) 17:10, June 12, 2020 (EDT)
:One can be seen in the corner of [[:File:PMTOK Group Artwork.png|this artwork]] that is found on the North American website for the game. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 17:17, June 12, 2020 (EDT)
:One can be seen in the corner of [[:File:PMTOK Group Art.jpg|this artwork]] that is found on the North American website for the game. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 17:17, June 12, 2020 (EDT)
:A few are found in the Spa of Purification in Shangri-Spa. I don't know any other places where Chargin' Chucks are seen. [[User:Chompers|Chompers]] 1:37, August 14, 2020 (EDT)
:A few are found in the Spa of Purification in Shangri-Spa. I don't know any other places where Chargin' Chucks are seen. [[User:Chompers|Chompers]] 1:37, August 14, 2020 (EDT)
::Not to be rude, but this discussion was from a month before the game came out. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
::Not to be rude, but this discussion was from a month before the game came out. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
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Is there any telling of when enemy stats of this game will be added on here? I know it may be a while, but how long does it normally take? [[User:Keyblade Master|Keyblade Master]] ([[User talk:Keyblade Master|talk]]) 19:58, July 19, 2020 (EDT)
Is there any telling of when enemy stats of this game will be added on here? I know it may be a while, but how long does it normally take? [[User:Keyblade Master|Keyblade Master]] ([[User talk:Keyblade Master|talk]]) 19:58, July 19, 2020 (EDT)
:The game just came out, but someone would have to dedicate themselves to diving into the game files and compiling everything in a way that is viewable on the wiki. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:02, July 19, 2020 (EDT)
:The game just came out, but someone would have to dedicate themselves to diving into the game files and compiling everything in a way that is viewable on the wiki. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:02, July 19, 2020 (EDT)
::Wow it's been awhile since I've been on, but with the release of Origami King, I may dedicate myself to organizing information for the bestiary. Maybe. I've got the time to do it, but motivation is another thing. I'll see how things go and start jotting down enemy types, where they appear, possible health range (until something more official is discovered), and other details that I can observe. Just started playing.{{User:Eldritchdraaks/sig}} 16:09, August 29, 2020 (EDT)
:::Hey, glad to see you back, man ^^ {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:40, August 29, 2020 (EDT)
::::Hey! I'm almost done with the red streamer and so far I'm getting some good ideas on the HP for enemies, narrowing it down through trial and error. So far I've got exact numbers on Swoop, Shy Guy, Paragoomba, and Koopa Troopa. Others I only have a range for. For example, Goomba's can be KO'd at 6 dmg, but so far that's the lowest amount of damage I've been able to deal. I'm also keeping a table on weapons durability, accessories, items, useful items, and all the stuff in the museum. Some of these are already represented in the PMOK related articles, but I feel some may not have all the neccessary info.{{User:Eldritchdraaks/sig}} 19:35, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
:::::Seems like weapon durability may be random, I'm getting too many conflicting numbers to accurately track it. Additionally I am now solely focused on the bestiary.{{User:Eldritchdraaks/sig}} 01:06, September 1, 2020 (EDT)


==Genre==
==Genre==
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I'm currently working on 100% the game, and I'd be more than willing to share some completed maps of all locations. I can't set them up so that people can click on a location and be sent to that location's page though, is there anyone who knows how to do that? --[[User:Modderkin64|Modderkin64]] ([[User talk:Modderkin64|talk]]) 13:24, July 28, 2020 (EDT)
I'm currently working on 100% the game, and I'd be more than willing to share some completed maps of all locations. I can't set them up so that people can click on a location and be sent to that location's page though, is there anyone who knows how to do that? --[[User:Modderkin64|Modderkin64]] ([[User talk:Modderkin64|talk]]) 13:24, July 28, 2020 (EDT)
:About a week ago I uploaded the maps and made them all into image maps (where you can click on the location and go to that page), although I'm not sure how they should be integrated. I'll just leave a link to them for someone else to add them. [[User:Eldritchdraaks/sandbox#PMTOK_Maps]].--{{User:Eldritchdraaks/sig}} 12:00, October 10, 2020 (EDT)
::I’m thinking to put them in for which streamer area they are in. For example, the yellow streamer map would go on area articles for Scorching Sandpaper Desert and its surrounding areas. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}


== Re-used designs and how to consider them ==
== Re-used designs and how to consider them ==
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*[[Tangerino Grill Chef]]:
*[[Tangerino Grill Chef]]:
**''CS'': Injured chef of the [[Tangerino Grill]]
**''CS'': Injured chef of the [[Tangerino Grill]]
**''TOK'': Chef of the Open-Air Cafe at [[Overlook Tower]]
**''TOK'': Chef of the Open-Air Cafe at [[Outlook Tower]]
*[[Princess]]
*[[Princess]]
**''CS'': Chain Chomp enchanted by Kamek to grow huge and monstrous. Owned by a yellow Toad. Appears in pictures as a normal Chain Chomp with a bow.
**''CS'': Chain Chomp enchanted by Kamek to grow huge and monstrous. Owned by a yellow Toad. Appears in pictures as a normal Chain Chomp with a bow.
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The glitch was fixed as of [https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/50130/~/how-to-update-paper-mario%3A-the-origami-king#v101 this recent patch]. Could someone add a note of that in the article itself? It's semiprotected and I'm not autoconfirmed in this wiki yet, so I can't add it myself. Thanks in advance. [[User:Gigi|Gigi]] ([[User talk:Gigi|talk]]) 09:35, August 6, 2020 (EDT)
The glitch was fixed as of [https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/50130/~/how-to-update-paper-mario%3A-the-origami-king#v101 this recent patch]. Could someone add a note of that in the article itself? It's semiprotected and I'm not autoconfirmed in this wiki yet, so I can't add it myself. Thanks in advance. [[User:Gigi|Gigi]] ([[User talk:Gigi|talk]]) 09:35, August 6, 2020 (EDT)
:Hi, I noted that it was patched out. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 17:27, August 6, 2020 (EDT)
:Hi, I noted that it was patched out. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 17:27, August 6, 2020 (EDT)
== Parakarry reference ==
As you already know, enemies have names For their attacks which already reference certain things  like Goombas having “headbonk”s but I notice that Paratroopa’s have a dive kick attack, different from a shell shot, which to my knowledge was only ever done by Parakarry in Paper Mario 64, every other time was a dive inside their shells.
Should update the “references to other games” in the Paper Mario 64 section if you guys agree.
[[User:Maniaclady|Maniaclady]]
== Partner table ==
I'm thinking of working on a table for the partners to put under the "characters" section and replace the mini gallery there, and I have these parameters planned (besides the usual "image" and "name" of course):
*Attack name
*Attack power (normally/with the Ally Tambourine equipped)
*Attack range (which formation they can attack, e.g for Bob-omb this would be "one enemy")
*Availability (describe when the partner joins and departs, and note other significant times the partner is unavailable e.g Bob-omb doesn't go into the Vellumental areas)
There are a few things to discuss about this, like if the "primary" and "temporary" sections should be merged together, or if partners that don't help in battle at all like Luigi should be excluded. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
:I have completed the table in a "notes" app on my iPad, and I have previewed it here and it is ready to go in. It is like how I described it. I should mention I have kind of merged the "primary" and "temporary" sections together, and I have not included partners who don't fight at all. However, I would like someone to help me decide how this should be implemented. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
::Include them in a separate table, I'd say. I'm kind of unsure, but it seems more efficient to split them. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 21:27, October 13, 2020 (EDT)
== Possible GBA Reference ==
While I was watching a video in Spanish about trivia related to the Super Mario series, I realized a possible reference to [[Mario Party Advance]]: in the video, they mentioned that the reference is about the name of Shroom City (or if you prefer, Snif City) and how to get there. In the GBA game, the Story Mode gets you to travel to a city, called Shroom City via a boot-like automobile, just like in Paper Mario for Switch. Is that enough to add that into the "References to other games" section? If it is, can it be added?
--[[User:LEGOGames1000|LEGOGames1000]] ([[User talk:LEGOGames1000|talk]]) 12:48, March 15, 2021 (EDT)
:Two things can unintentionally share the same name, especially a name like "Shroom City". It's most likely just a coincidence. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:51, March 15, 2021 (EDT)
== Media list ==
{{talk}}
Is it okay to just link to [[Musee Champignon]] for the media list? Or should we give the game its own media list? There are some tracks I want to upload, such as the "item collected" jingle and the Ring Trainer battle theme, that aren't in the museum sound gallery. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 22:42, May 11, 2021 (EDT)
== Notable mistakes and errors ==
{{Talk}}
Would it be okay to create such a section on this game page, or is it kind of an antiquated practice (I'm afraid it could attract complaining)? It's on articles such as ''[[Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]'', and ''[[Mario's Early Years! Fun with Letters]]''. I've found a few typos, such as Olivia referring to the Sea Chart as a "See Chart", an improperly capitalized instance of "it", numerous spelling errors in the museum descriptions, Luigi's hat being mirrored at one point, and the claim that [[Nipper Plant]]s can spit fire when they actually can't in this game. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 16:16, May 29, 2021 (EDT)
:The See Chart one might have been intentional considering Olivia's personality, and immediately follows up with her saying "it was hard to understand anything he (Captain T. Ode) said". If the section does get created, there should probably be some kind of disclaimer saying that this is the sort of thing the section is for. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 16:41, May 29, 2021 (EDT)
::The exact line is "Oh. OK. So...do we think he's going to give us the See Chart, or... It was hard for me to understand anything he was saying. I guess that's ancient language for you!" Considering that she isn't corrected and does separately refer to it as the "sea chart" multiple times ("But I do want to ask you about something called a sea chart!"; "Mainly we just need the sea chart!"), it feels a bit ambiguous. I guess I could lean into it being a joke rather than an error. Still, the rest stands. Also, I noticed that the [[Paper Macho Buzzy Beetle]] description thinks it's the Paper Mistake but without the armor, which isn't accurate since it appears as a species, individually from Paper Mistake, on Scuffle Island. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 17:06, May 29, 2021 (EDT)
:::Most of the descriptions for Paper Macho enemies do seem to be based on a specific one (such as the [[Paper Macho Koopa Troopa]]'s description only talking about the one sleeping in Shogun Studios). However, the main problem with the Paper Macho Buzzy Beetle one is that it can be obtained way before fighting the Paper Mistake (and is right in the middle of a mandatory path), effectively spoiling what happens at the end of the green streamer before clearing the purple streamer. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 17:27, May 29, 2021 (EDT)
== The fishing spots ==
So, those fishing spots where you can catch Cheep Cheeps and Bloopers... I can't seem to find an article on them, and when I finally managed to, it said "Page does not exist". They have enough features to deserve an article, so who's with me that we need to make one? {{unsigned|Broque}}
:Good page idea, go ahead and make a list of fishing spots article. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 14:40, June 11, 2021 (EDT)
::I've been wondering about this, and yeah, they can have a page. I don't think it needs to be a list, since there's only three: something like [[Prisma Café]] would work. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 15:04, June 11, 2021 (EDT)
:::Yeah, we could just call it "Fishing spot". {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 15:25, June 11, 2021 (EDT)
== Item descriptions ==
{{talk}}
I want to make a table for the weapons, but I think descriptions such as "a strong hammer", "a stronger hammer", "the strongest hammer" would get repetitive. Should we go with the in-game descriptions? This wouldn't be consistent with the Useful Items section, though. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 16:08, July 16, 2021 (EDT)
== Sun Incense ==
can someone added sun Incense too the Useful Items?{{unsigned|37.8.230.184}}
:Just did so, and read the messages you have had about signing your comments. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 10:20, October 18, 2021 (EDT)
== Unused Battle Lab Rematches ==
Recent research into the links between areas in Paper Mario: The Origami King revealed that the Battle Lab has unused rematches against minor Paper Macho events. Specifically:<br>
"W1G1_BattleLab" > "HarikoBattleTHEATER_1F" > "W3G2_SamboArea"
"W1G1_BattleLab" > "HarikoBattleTHEATER_2F" > "W3G2_SamboArea"
"W1G1_BattleLab" > "HarikoBattleTHEATER_3F" > "W3G2_SamboArea"
"W1G1_BattleLab" > "HarikoBattleKURB" > "W3C4_MummyKuriboArea"
"W1G1_BattleLab" > "HarikoBattleHEI_BUCKET" > "W3C3_FireBucketB"
These links would transition from the Battle Lab to rematch against the '''Paper Macho Outlaws''', '''Shady Paper Macho Koopas''', '''Paper Macho Shy Guy Ballerinas''', pair of '''Paper Macho Mummy Goombas''', and 2nd group of the '''Paper Macho Shy Guys with buckets''' in the Fire Vellumental Cave, respectively.
<br>Will all of that said, would this be worth putting in the [[Paper_Mario:_The_Origami_King#Pre-release_and_unused_content|Pre-release and unused content]] section of this page? Or is it more appropriate put this in just the main page of unused content? {{User:Zaku/sig}} 13:44, July 1, 2022 (EDT)
:This would be suitable for the former, not sure what page you mean by the latter though. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 13:46, July 1, 2022 (EDT)
:: Okay. And the main page of unused content I mentioned is the [[List of Paper Mario: The Origami King pre-release and unused content]]. {{User:Zaku/sig}} 14:02, July 1, 2022 (EDT)

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