Editing Talk:Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Wii)

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==Game Logo?==
OK, I'm not quite sure if this is real or not, but it greatly follows the design of the former games' logos. [http://imagenes.blogocio.net/post/20110414_00098.jpg]
This was taken from a brasilian source (with a miserable posible box cover showing only this picture) but all was shortly removed. {{User:Coincollector/sig}} PD: I'm getting sick of all those new long games for Mario-related games. They don't have any talent to make a nice name for their games ×_×
:What should redirect here as a shortened version of the title; MASATLOG? {{User:Marioguy1/sig}}

Well, It was [http://www.tssznews.com/2011/04/13/rumor-box-art-for-upcoming-sega-games-leaked/ leaked] along the Sonic Generations art which it and title turn out to be true. I suppose it real or should we wait until SEGA release more detail soon?
{{User:Lindsay151/sig}}

riding!? riding what!? horses? in the Mario-verse? seriously though, has this been confirmed to be horse riding? [[User:Lu-igi board|Lu-igi board]]

:@ Marioguy, That was just an opinion from me, actually ^^
:@ Lindsay: That's fake, the box says is unlikely to be official box cover.
:@ Luigi-board: Think like Nintendo, man. Riding objects or creatures other than real-world horses, for example riding yoshis or some other thing from the sonic series. What it really makes me wonder is that will include soccer - err... a "lite" less chaotic version of Mario Strikers? {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

::@ Coinclooector: very true I suppose ur right about that. I'm curious now... [[User:Lu-igi board|Lu-igi board]]

Oh, otro juego?? yo crei que tan solo era un broma, hmm creo que ya aburrio tanto juego de deportes, especialmente por que no han puesto ni a Birdo o a Toadette en ellos, creo que van como 3 años sin saber de ellas. =( {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

I don't know about the horses. In the Sonic riders games sonic characters ride on boards with extreme gear but that wouldn't be in this game would it?--[[File:Yoshi4.jpeg|35px]][[User:Yoshidude99|Yoshidude99]]  16:46, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

@Yoshidude: I don't think so.
{{User:Superfiremario/Sig}} 18:49, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

== Reference ==

I found a website that lists more info on the game, such as there will be dream events and they will be in different Mario and Sonic locations, just like the Olympic Winter Games. Here is the [http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/04/21/mario-sonic-at-the-london-olympic-games-announced/ link]

[[File:DaisyMP8Official.png|50px]][[File:YoshiMP8art.png|50px]]The Awesome Yoshi Fan [[User:Tails777|Tails777]][[File:Tails Sticker.png|50px]][[File:Toadsmall.jpg|50px]]

== Characters ==

Since there will be 20 playable characters, do you think all of the characters from the Winter Games will return? {{User:SKmarioman/sig}}

@SKmarioman Yes! There will be twenty. They will return. {{User:Reddragon19k/sig}}
:It's not confirmed, we cannot add any more characters than [[Mario]] and [[Sonic]] to the article. {{User:Marioguy1/sig}}
::Exactly why I removed the information about "possibly all from Winter Games" {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
:::I think there's gonna be more than 20, all of the playable characters from Winter Games, plus all the bosses and four newbies. [[User:DK Fan|DK Fan]]

==Rating==
I've looked at the official site of the game and found this:<br>http://i.imgur.com/0XNEq.png<br>I've looked at the peg.info, and there's no such rating. It's possibly for the site only. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

No, that's the most recent 3 Logo of Pegi, which has been used on recent games since 2010 or so. {{user:Arend/Sig}}
:[http://www.pegi.info/en/index/global_id/505/?searchString=sonic+at+the] {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

Yeah my copy of SMG2 has it on the cover.{{User:Yoshidude99/sig}}

@SWFlash: You've just shown what I've meant: pics of the new Pegi icon. Why? {{User:Arend/Sig}}

Figure out why did I give the link to the '''SEARCH''' page.{{multiframe|http://i.imgur.com/BFaCX.png|size=133|align=none}}{{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
:Ohhhh, did you mean THAT. I thought you meant the pegi Icon. *Facepalm because of own stupidity* {{User:Arend/Sig}}
==That artwork…==
(''more speculation ahead'')<br>{{multiframe|http://i.imgur.com/cgf5w.png|size=250|align=center}}On [[:File:MASATLOG Stadium.png|this image]], along with Mario flags that held by audience, there're also Waluigi flags. It's possible that Waluigi will be playable. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

I can't see the Waluigi flags.
{{User:Superfiremario/Sig}} 18:51, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

They're the purple and yellow flags. And, @ SWFlash, I think that all the characters will return. {{User:Nicke8/sig}}
:So do I. [[User:DK Fan|DK Fan]]
::We don't know yet! That's why I deleted the speculation regarding that stuff, even though it is extremely likely. We have to wait for confirmation. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}} 

It has not been comformed but Waluigi is on the cover artwork box of the game. [[User:Jjrapper100]]

==Confused==
In the article about what sports are revealed, do they mean by American Football or do they mean by European Football? {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
:The reference leads to the UK site, whitch means it's Soccer for Americans and Football for others. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
::European Football. Soccer. Foot = That thing you use to step, kick and that is after your knee. Ball = The thing you use to play the sport. It's on the UK site, so... Per SWFlash. --{{User:Mario Fan 123/sig}} 09:37, 9 May 2011 (EDT)

== Latest Nintendo Power displays new character artwork ==

*I'd like to point out that the newest Nintendo Power issue (it's going to be the issue that involves ''Sonic Generations'') talks about this game, and there are some new character artworks included in it.  The artworks that I saw include Peach, who is wearing a gymnastics outfit, along with Amy, who also is wearing a gymnastics outfit.  Sorry, but I don't have pictures of those artworks, but you'll get what I'm saying if you look at the newset Nintendo Power issue. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 14:21, 31 May 2011 (EDT)

Do You Mean This Artwork?<br>
[[File:M&SATLOG Amy Gymnastics artwork.png|frameless]]<br>
[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])

*Yup.  That's one of the two artworks that I've mentioned.  The other one is for Peach. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 14:58, 3 June 2011 (EDT)

I Also Have Luigi's Artwork<br>
[[File:Luigi2012.jpg|190px]]<br>
[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])

*Now that artwork, I didn't remember it, but thanks for bringing it up. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 18:54, 3 June 2011 (EDT)

Where is Peach's artwork? =( {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}
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Here This is the Peach one<br>
[[File:Mariosonicpeachluigi.png|310px]]<br>
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I Aslo have Tails<br>
[[File:Amytails.png|200px]]<br>
[[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])

*Thanks for covering all of this.  Though you should probably try to get the Peach and Tails artworks by themselves.  That is, if you have a camera. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 07:44, 4 June 2011 (EDT)

oh no thats not my camera im using i found the images from a site [[User:Marc|Marc]] ([[User talk:Marc|Talk]])

Thank you Marc! ^^ {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

== Dream Rowing ==

Hello Wiki

Plumber690 here.

[[File:I am fairly sure mario and sonic aren't in london now.jpg|thumb|300px|This Dream event that could be Dream Rowing looks like it is set at Wave Ocean from Sonic the Hedgehog (2006). Mario jc agrees with me. A stupid admin had to revert it and I am so certain that it is. Also, no one will want to play this game if there are no new characters. Everyone agrees. --[[User talk:Plumber690|Plumber690]] 11:22, June 6, 2011 (UTC)]]

:That's not a source that confirms anything all edits on unreleased games must be confirmed by an official source anything else is speculation and if you have a source than cite it also don't insult the admins thats flaming {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

Well, it looks like Wave Ocean. Ask Mario jc. He agrees with me. and he will say that it is. --[[User talk:Plumber690|Plumber690]] 13:25, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

:So what you must have an official source and with out one it becomes speculation {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

Where do you find a source. Mario jc will tell you that it is Wave Ocean. I asked him on his talk page. --[[User talk:Plumber690|Plumber690]] 13:32, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

::you would need an official annat wouncement from Nintendo or from a game trailer also so what if Mario jc thinks it's dream rowing that has no significance on this matter {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

:::Alright have him log on so i can ask him {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

I didn't agree with you. I never said anything after you posted that comment on my talk page. {{user:Mario jc/sig}}

Sorry. it's just that you always help me on here since I first logged in. --[[user talk:Plumber690|Plumber690]] 14:40, June 6, 2011 (UTC) PS, I must be around and not blocked on the day June 25th to say goodbye while I'm in the Northern hemisphere.

Im the one who removed it at first. That is not rowing it is discus at windy valley --[[User:New Super Yoshi|New Super Yoshi]] 10:58, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
==Gameplay==
[http://e3.nintendo.com/_ui/swf/player.swf?url=mp4:boothtour1.mp4&title=Nintendo%20Network%20E3%20Booth%20Tours:%20Ubisoft,%20EA,%20Sega&autoplay=true&loop=false&omniture=live&debug=false Starts at 1:24.] {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

==Birdo==
Oh my gosh! is this real? [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZBBAl89rpE&feature=youtube_gdata] {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

Am sorry to say it's not as seem to have taken from peach's art of this game as well as the art from Birdo's gallery.
{{User:Lindsay151/sig}}

Too bad =(  {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}} I'll send a message to that person, she has to know something about the picture. 
{{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

Oh Lindsay I don't have an account, could you ask her? {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

Did I just goof up with my article edits regarding this?  If so, I apologize.  When this issue gets resolved, you can undo my errors.<br>Sometimes those fake artworks can be quite deceptive. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 08:05, 13 June 2011 (EDT)

I could see directly that it was fake (too curvy arm without any elbow, shading and lighting doesn't fit with other arts, parts not smoothly connected, why is Birdo wearing a suit?) {{User:Arend/Sig}}

I think her arm is okay, she's just has a girly pose, and Birdo is wearing a suit because all of rhytmic gymnasts should wear that kind of clothes. {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

During the development of the last Olympic games, there was also a fake Birdo picture of her in a winter outfit. Not to mention that Sega said that 20 characters would be in this game, the same number of roster from the Winter Games and we've already seen them from the screenshots and trailer. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 22:27, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

Well that's right, but the info of the video says she will be a '''Supporting character''' .{{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

Where? [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 22:33, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

here: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZBBAl89rpE&feature=youtube_gdata]  {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

Aaagh I'm gonna ask her where she got this artwork, I can't stop thinking about this, if it's real I 'll be so happy!  {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

I just' ve created an account, she told me she has a friend who apparently works for Sega Co. and I say (OMG! =0) then she told me her friend has stolen some artworks like this one: [http://www.flickr.com/photos/64088470@N06/5835639870/in/photostream/]
and she say her friend has the art of Rogue the bat but sadly he have not been online, Oh! and she gave me a link to the Birdo's art in high definition. I'll upload it. ^_^   {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

How is Flickr a reliable source for this? Anyone could upload anything. Why isn't this picture on major gaming sites like IGN or GameSpot? I'm calling it dubious. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 12:00, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

Well, I'm gonna ask her why she put it on Flickr. {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}
: none of both pages you said, have artworks of this game :P
:: Yet a site like a TSSZ does. Just remember what happened the last time with the Winter Olympics.  [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 20:23, 16 June 2011 (EDT)
:::Indeed, I knew it was fake. I think she was trying to get many views on her video. [[User:DK Fan]]

Just put the final nail in the coffin, Sega said there would be no new characters, [http://www.sonicstadium.org/2011/06/e3-mario-and-sonic-london-2012-preview-and-qa/ Source]. [[User:Luigifan95|Luigifan95]] 00:41, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

oH well, maybe she's a boss :P {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

== New Dream event locations ==

Does this mean that the Battlerock Galaxy and Grand Metropolis are confirmed to be dream event locations? Should we add that in the actual article? {{User:Tails777/sig}}

Wait, when were they confirmed? Where is the source? [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] 21:10, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

The images that were recently uploaded showed the Battlerock Galaxy and Grand Metropolis. They were already added to the main article though. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== Controls ==

I have a gamesmaster Sonic special which has info from the game and the conrols for some of the events. Can we make a Controls section?--[[File:Yoshi MP4.png|35px]][[User:Yoshidude99|Yoshidude99]]  14:34, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:Sure, you can do it. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

== Character Statistics Section ==

No offense, but does anyone have any idea of when we can activate the respective <i>Mario & Sonic</i> statistic templates on the article, especially when the Wii game gets released and the 3DS statistics get revealed? Once again, nothing personal, but those site image snapshots are making that part of the article look <i>very</i> ugly. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 16:22, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

No one appreciates nothing on this wiki, do it when its released(both versions)
[[User:Donaldthescotishtwin|Donaldthescotishtwin]]

==Events==
Couldn't we say events in the character description pictures are confirmed? I see rings in the doctor eggman discription. What do you think about it? {{User:zwartwitje}}


== All Dream events + Synchro Battle Galaxy ==

This Video shows all the Dream events: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN7K4MwQBa8

It also confirms that Dream Space wolk takes place on a place called "Synchro Battle Galaxy" instead of "Sky Station Galaxy". PLEASE NOTICE AND REPLY (And change the article. Magikoopas will also appear). [[User:MarioMaster720]]


== Orbot and Cubot ARE IN THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!! ==

Why do you remove Orbot and Cubot form the character list? This video proves that they appear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L2oB1ABTHU

They appear when stickers get copied. 14:13 is an example. and This video shows A LOT of new stuff to add. I'm surprised that this wiki is so lazy. EDIT THE PAGE PEOPLE ;) [[User:MarioMaster720]]

== Birdo! ==
I heard that Birdo will appear in the game as a boss, if that is right, then where is the source? {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}} =0

She's a rival in London party mode yes, specifically in the 100m Freestyle event. Source: I own this game, and have played against her. [[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 14:34, 18 November 2011 (EST)

Oh thank you! ^_^ could you tell me if she wear an outfit? 'o' {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

She doesn't wear an outfit, no. She has her usual non-clothed look throughout. Although to be honest, I'd be a little freaked if she did wear an outfit... [[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 00:39, 20 November 2011 (EST)

== Suits and Stuff ==

I've managed to collect all the suits in the game, but I'm not sure how I'd go about putting them in the article. A little guidance?{{unsigned|Kat-rin koopa}}

Take a picture to each suit, then upload them and add a gallery!~ ^_^ {{User:Birdo beauties/sig}}

Done. They can be found under the accompanying gallery page for the article. [[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 14:49, 21 November 2011 (EST)


Derp, someone added the unlock methods to the article, but in a faulty manner. If you're going to add a section that will speedily be deleted, at least do it completely. I've altered it so it looks good when it goes. [[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 15:41, 21 November 2011 (EST)

== Weightlifting? ==

Artwork of Vector shows weightlifting. But the event doesn't even appear in the game. Is it a beta event? {{User:Tails777/sig}}

That's art to show off one of the 3DS events, since it has some exclusive events. [[User:Kat-rin koopa|Kat-rin koopa]] 00:00, 12 February 2012 (EST)

== New sports articles ==

Since we have articles on the sports from the previous two Olympic Games, should we have articles on the new events from this game? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 18:18, 21 January 2012 (EST)

== This article is a mess ==
The 3DS one is nothing like the Wii one, the only thing that is the same is the name.
I can't find anything about the 3DS game in this cluttered mess of an article.
Why don't we just create a separate article for the 3DS one?

{{User|yoshiyoshiyoshi}}

:Because it would go against the standard set by keeping the last 2 merged with their handheld counter parts {{User|Raven Effect}}

Well, maybe they could change those too?
there's really insignificant data on the handheld games.
the 2 Mario Power Tennises are split.

{User|yoshiyoshiyoshi}}

I agree with {{User|yoshiyoshiyoshi}} this article should be split into two. Could someone with authority give a go ahead to do so? {{User|JORDAN DEBONO}}

It does need more organizing, but I don't think the article needs to be split. However, I do have an issue -- we need to see about using that character statistics template that someone created months ago for this game article; seeing those screenshots from the official site showing those statistics really make this article's page look ugly. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 22:13, 2 March 2012 (EST)

== Article Protection ==
I think the article should be protected due to information not finished. {{User:Marioisawesome118/sig}}


== Nintendo Network ==
The other day, I was walking through an electronics store when I found a Japanese copy of the 3DS game on display. The boxart had the Nintendo Network logo on it. Can somebody tell me what's going on? Is it updated or what? {{User:Akfamilyhome/sig}} 04:44, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

:Maybe it was Beta? {{User:YoshiKong/sig}}

==Split Article in 2 !!!!==

I have just purchased M&S for the 3DS and when comparing it to my friends Wii version, they have BARELY ANYTHING in common with each other (obviously the name, characters and a ''few'' events remain. I am willing to separate the two on a weekend, but I am in need of someone with ''power'' to give me a go ahead as I really don't want to get a warning for this. Please, I sincerely enforce it as this article is in a mess.

{{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 06:37, 25 March 2012 (EDT)

Ok, since no-one answered I couldn't help myself from doing something so I split the article into 3 pieces. It's better than nothing.

{{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 04:57, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

==Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games Virtual Card Album==
The above is a game that currently lacks an article on this wiki. I am only aware of it being released in the United Kingdom, which would make sense, with it being about the London Summer Olympic Games. It was released there on July 5th. I may end up making this article myself, but as I mainly work on ''Mario Tennis: Power Tour'' articles, I cannot be relied upon to do so. So if anyone else wants to make this article, the premise is that the game works in similar fashion to ''Pokédex 3D'', where the player receives virtual cards depicting characters and situations from ''MASATL2012OG'' through SpotPass and StreetPass. Distribution of the cards will discontinue on the same day as the end of the Paralympic Games. The software was a free downlod on the Nintendo eShop. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 19:53, 14 August 2012 (EDT)

: I really don't think an article of it is necessary per se (because I consider this mainly a "promotion" of <i>Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games</i>; however, I do think that once we get all information about what this is all about, it should be added to the main game article itself (under a "Promotion & Advertising" section) in my opinion. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 21:26, 14 August 2012 (EDT)

==Stats==
Do you think we should change the stats so they're in text form and easy to read? I'd be up for it. [[User:MolotovMan|MolotovMan]] ([[User talk:MolotovMan|talk]])