Editing Talk:Kazooie

Uhh... I don't think we should make articles about  implied Banjo characters...{{User:Knife/sig}} 23:14, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

But it was in a Donkey Kong game manual, before Banjo even had a series. -- [[User: Sir Grodus|Sir Godus]]

Yeah, this is legit....barely. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

Sorry to bring this up again, but I still don't see how Kazooie is relevant enough to the ''Mario'' series for a separate article. Let's see, she was first ''"referenced briefly"'' in an instruction booklet. Definitely not article-worthy. Then she made a ''cameo'' appearance in a ''beta'' version of a game. Not article-worthy either. Finally, she appeared in a comic which was so distant from the ''Mario'' series [[Talk:N-Gang|we decided to not make articles about characters only appearing there]]. Thus, I see no reason to keep this article, even if we take all of Kazooie's pseudo-appearances and references together. So, uh, am I missing something, or is this not article-worthy? {{User:Time Q/sig}} 06:44, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Time Q, I see exactly what you're saying. Kazooie has barely anything to do with the Mario series, certainly not worthy of an article. Personally, I don't think Banjo Kazooie even deserves an article, but that's just my opinion. Do you think it will require a Proposal to confirm deleting this page? 

{{User:Dom/sig}} 06:53, 30 December 2008 (EST)

I don't really have an opinion on the whole Banjo/Conker issue, I'm just considering Kazooie's appearances and references in the ''Mario'' series, and I fail to see any relevant appearance. Uh, before taking a proposal into consideration, I think we should wait for more opinions here. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 06:59, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Yeah I guess we should wait a bit, but Talk pages of non-major articles hardly get any views, so it could be a very, very long wait. {{User:Dom/sig}} 07:03, 30 December 2008 (EST)
:I agree with Time Q. Outside of the ''Banjo-Kazooie'' series, she is only implied in the ''Mario'' universe. And we decided not to make articles on not directly related subjects from crossover media such as ''N-Gang'', ''Captain N'', ''Captain Rainbow'' and so on which are too distant from the ''Mario'' series for covering all contents of them, unlike ''Smash Bros.'' or ''Itadaki Street DS''. If the ''Banjo'' series article stays, this should be a redirect to it. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 07:57, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Based on the recent Important Policy proposal that will likely pass, information about Kazooie would be legitimate and indeed would be expanded to include her Banjo series appearances.  But given Kazooie's minor appearances in the main Mario series, it would be sensible to merge this info into the Banjo series article.  ([[Bottles]] should probably be merged as well.)  Also, the new policy would allow expanded coverage of cross-over series, including Captain N and others.  Whether everything gets an article is subject to debate, but the content for such articles would be protected (i.e. we could have an article about "Characters in the Captain N series" instead of an article for every character in the show).  And we don't need a proposal for this - talking about merges is exactly what talk pages are for. =) -- {{User|Son of Suns}}
:Don't think Bottles should be merged, he appeared in one of the ''Mario'' comics we fully cover. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 14:27, 30 December 2008 (EST)

::Oh okay.  So Bottles was in a Mario comic and Kazooie was in an N-Gang comic?  Am I getting that correct? -- {{User|Son of Suns}}  P.S.  The new policy will fully cover all these series, although that does not mean all the content will have articles.
:::Yes, they were. Do you mean with everything also ''Captain Rainbow'', ''SSX on Tour'' and ''NBA Street V3''? --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:30, 30 December 2008 (EST)

::::Thanks.  Captain Rainbow would be a crossover franchise (like Super Smash Bros., except with the nobodies of Nintendo), so content from the game would be allowed.  SSX and NBA Street were pre-established franchises, so the Mario references would be cameos, and only information about the Mario-subject cameos would be allowed. -- {{User|Son of Suns}}

== Redirect ==

I understand that we have a series article now - but Kazooie is much more notable than, say, Bottles, who had no connection with Mario besides the Mario --> Donkey Kong --> DKR --> Banjo connection, so I feel that Kazooie should be able to have an article.  Why not? {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 15:52, 6 January 2009 (EST)