Editing Talk:Flipbug

I am going to move "Red Insect" to "Flying Mandibug" for a couple of reasons. Flying Mandibug sounds "more official", per say. The article states that they look similar to Mandibugs, they are both insects, they both appear in the same galaxy (or galaxies, if I'm correct). If I am wrong, please post it on the talk page before moving it again. Thank you. {{User:Super Mario Bros./sig}} 18:54, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:Also, the Big Bugaboom can fly, unlike most other Mandibugs. This could be another reason why the "Red Insect" may possibly be related to Mandibugs. {{User:Super Mario Bros./sig}} 18:58, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

== Merge ==

Well, discuss the merge here. I think that these two creatures don't look alike at all to be honest. I think that a Flying Mandibug is a totally different species than a Mandibug and that they are in no way related to eachother more than Goombas are to Koopa Troopas. {{User:Marioguy1/sig}}

:Either way, we have seperate articles for Koopa Troopas and Paratroopas, so if this merges, so do those articles. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
::Don't exaggerate points - this does not mean all of the articles must be merged. He's talking about this one specifically. {{User:Marioguy1/sig}}
:::I'm not. A Flying Mandibug is a Mandibug with wings. A Paratroopa is a Koopa Troopa with wings. It's the same thing. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
::::Well, I can't really see what the bug looks like. It appears to be red, but there's red-shelled and green-shelled Koopas, so not much rationale there... Are there official names that differentiate between the two? Is there a suggestion besides a name that differentiates them? The normal Mandibug looks like it does have wings, so just because one version is seen flying more often doesn't mean it's different. Koopa Troopas and Koopa Paratroopas are different because one has wings, the other doesn't. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 13:43, 4 December 2009 (EST)
We are ''not'' talking about merging Koopa Troopa and Koopa Paratroopa! Reversinator, whether they are the same or not, you cannot go around blowing things out of proportion like that! If anyone here wishes to have Koopa Troopa and Koopa Paratroopa merged then go right ahead and put {{tem|Mergeto}} on [[Koopa Paratroopa|this page]] and {{tem|merge from}} on [[Koopa Troopa|this one]] but until then, don't bring it up on this page! {{User|Marioguy1}}
:You fail to see the point I'm trying to make. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
::That's because you're making no point unless the point is "Whether the difference is small or not, they are totally different creatures" in which case, per. {{User|Marioguy1}}
:::That's the point I'm trying to prove! {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
OK, then per {{User|Marioguy1}}
::::They're collectively referred to as the "Mandibug Clan" in Galaxy, so they're both Mandibugs. Seems like they're varieties, rather than outright different species, but the difference is strong enough I feel they should be kept apart as long as they're both grouped under "Mandibug Clan". {{User|Redstar}}
I don't think we should go creating articles on every species/subspecies group; "Mandibug Clan", "Koopa Tribe"? There is a section in the {{tem|species infobox}} called "sub_species" and one called "species_origin" and those two sections can display the links between the species {{User|Marioguy1}}
:No, I didn't mean going so far as doing that. Just mentioning it in the initial sentence. "Mandibugs are members of the Mandibug Clan". [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:03, 4 December 2009 (EST)
::Well, that could work I guess (It may have to be re-worded but I guess it could) {{User|Marioguy1}}

People, this is exactly the same as Koopa and Paratroopa, what is the latter? a koopa with wings. Same here, then, no merge needed :) --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 14:05, 4 December 2009 (EST)
:None of us are supporting a merge. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:08, 4 December 2009 (EST)

Just reread the article and I didn't realize that they weren't proven to be related. At the very least, we should move this to another title, "Flying Mandibugs" strongly suggests that they are literally flying Mandibugs.<br>
@Tucayo: Your scenario doesn't work since this is unofficially named.
--{{User:Knife/sig}} 14:13, 4 December 2009 (EST)
:I reread the article and came to a conclusion: Manibugs and Flying Mandibugs are nothing alike. They look different, their attack styles are different (one goes towards Mario and one runs away) and Mandibugs can't go out of a certain line unlike Flying Mandibugs who are free roaming. BTW, though one is conjecture and one isn't I cannot see how that affects the subject of the articles in any way. {{User|Marioguy1}}

Conjecture makes a huge impact when creating an article. For instance, we could make a separate article on the jumping attack used by Cheep-Cheeps if it was officially named. I suggest we move the article to another name that doesn't suggest that this is a Mandibug. If somebody can find an official name for this, that would be better.-{{User:Knife/sig}} 14:29, 4 December 2009 (EST)
:Red Insect was good :P {{User|Marioguy1}}

== Attraction? ==

{{quote2|However, if approached by Bee Mario, they unfold their wings and slowly hover after him. This could possibly be because they are '''insects and are therefore attracted to Mario in his bee (another insect) form.'''|Flipbug article}}
However, the Mandibug article says that Mandibugs took over the tower in Honeyhive Galaxy, and probably have a certain rivalry to Bees. I don't think Flipbugs follow Bee Mario because they feel attracted to him, but because they think Mario's an ''actual'' bee, and thus an "enemy". After all, Flipbugs are related to Mandibugs, so it makes sense too. However, Mandibugs attack anyone, Also Mario without a bee suit from a Bee Mushroom. But then we've the theories, that either Mandibugs are a lot smarter than Flipbugs, or that Flipbugs are just wimps. {{User:Arend/Sig}}

== Inaccurate Image Description ==

The image in question (captioned "Flipbugs chase Bee Mario.") actually features the enemies fleeing from Mario and Mario is not even in his Bee form. If I could find an image of the described behavior (as it is somewhat important to the article) would that be preferable or would it be better to simply correct the incorrect caption? {{unsigned|HarryGCollections}}
:This seems to be a case where an image was replaced and the caption simply was not updated to reflect the change, though I do not think it would hurt to have an image of their interaction with Bee Mario, since it is a separate behavior from the ones currently depicted on the article. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 19:29, June 10, 2020 (EDT)

I see. I'll eventually find such an image and add it to the article, and then subsequently correct the caption with one edit to avoid confusion.
[[User:HarryGCollections|HarryGCollections]] ([[User talk:HarryGCollections|talk]]) 20:24, June 10, 2020 (EDT)