Talk:Bull's-Eye Banzai: Difference between revisions

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::The thing is that there are dozens of examples of Mario Portal unifying the most recent name/spelling with older material: you have basically the entire ''Super Mario Bros.''/''The Lost Levels'' section (including Lava Bubble), Shoe Goomba, Flame Chomp, Fire Piranha Plant and Mini Goomba appearing as early as the ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' section, Galoomba and its variants in ''Super Mario World'', Maw-Ray and Cheep Chomp in ''Super Mario 64'', <s>Frost Piranha in ''New Super Mario Bros. U''</s> etc. Just about the only inconsistency between sections is the occasional resized enemies and Ground/Hot Urchin for some reason. So if Nintendo is using the name "Bull's-Eye Bill" before its creation, I wouldn't necessarily take that to mean Missile Bill is separate, just that its use has depreciated like everything else before it, and that runs contrary to our general goal of honoring the older names where applicable. I do wonder if Banzai Bill (and Parabomb) has been renamed and that "Boomer Bill" was a sign of things to come, but we can take that as it comes. As it stands, I don't see the point of calling Bull's-Eye Banzais "Bull's-Eye Bomber Bills" unless we're also using "Bomber Bills" for Banzai Bills. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:46, August 14, 2022 (EDT)
::The thing is that there are dozens of examples of Mario Portal unifying the most recent name/spelling with older material: you have basically the entire ''Super Mario Bros.''/''The Lost Levels'' section (including Lava Bubble), Shoe Goomba, Flame Chomp, Fire Piranha Plant and Mini Goomba appearing as early as the ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' section, Galoomba and its variants in ''Super Mario World'', Maw-Ray and Cheep Chomp in ''Super Mario 64'', <s>Frost Piranha in ''New Super Mario Bros. U''</s> etc. Just about the only inconsistency between sections is the occasional resized enemies and Ground/Hot Urchin for some reason. So if Nintendo is using the name "Bull's-Eye Bill" before its creation, I wouldn't necessarily take that to mean Missile Bill is separate, just that its use has depreciated like everything else before it, and that runs contrary to our general goal of honoring the older names where applicable. I do wonder if Banzai Bill (and Parabomb) has been renamed and that "Boomer Bill" was a sign of things to come, but we can take that as it comes. As it stands, I don't see the point of calling Bull's-Eye Banzais "Bull's-Eye Bomber Bills" unless we're also using "Bomber Bills" for Banzai Bills. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:46, August 14, 2022 (EDT)
Something that just came to mind: one of the original arguments against using "Bulls-Eye Banzai" for its ''NSMBWii'' appearance was that it was derived from "Bulls-Eye Bill", a name which did not (or at least was not known to) exist at the time. However, the same thing applies to [[Jumping Fire Piranha Plant]], a ''Super Mario World''-exclusive enemy whose name is derived from [[Fire Piranha Plant]], which was known as "Venus Fire Trap" at the time. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 19:54, August 27, 2022 (EDT)
Something that just came to mind: one of the original arguments against using "Bulls-Eye Banzai" for its ''NSMBWii'' appearance was that it was derived from "Bulls-Eye Bill", a name which did not (or at least was not known to) exist at the time. However, the same thing applies to [[Jumping Fire Piranha Plant]], a ''Super Mario World''-exclusive enemy whose name is derived from [[Fire Piranha Plant]], which was known as "Venus Fire Trap" at the time. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 19:54, August 27, 2022 (EDT)
:In fairness, Jumping Fire Piranha Plant apparently didn't even get its Japanese name until ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'', which was well beyond the point Nintendo stopped using Venus Fire Trap in English. Their approach to legacy names isn't the same as ours. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:30, August 30, 2022 (EDT)
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