Editing MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Bowser

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==== Support ====
#{{User|Jose17796}} Please let this article be a featured article!
#{{User|Catboy41}} Now, I'm new, so maybe I'm not reading the rules correctly, But I am pretty sure I did, so with that in mind, I think that this article Is AWESOME. I was actually suprised It wasn't featured when I joined. I didn't spot any bad templates, and I believe It should be featured. It's written in correct verb tense, as far as I know. It has a lot of info, and I believe It is indeed, one of the best.
#{{User|Pikapoke2000}}
#{{User|Smarty54242}}
#{{User|Pixl Power}}
#{{User|Nintenfan23}}
#{{User|YoshisIsland}}
#{{User|Technickal}}
#{{User|Koopamaniac123}}
#{{User|Luigirules33}}
#{{User|MysteryGirl2012}}
#{{User|SuperPickle}}
#{{User|Yoshi10}} 
#{{User|Toadshroom}}
#{{User|New Super Yoshi}}
#{{User|Toa 95}}
#{{User|Bjdill}}
#{{User|Big Koopa}}
#{{User|Mrcrackerpants}}

==== Oppose ====
#{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}} Alright heres the games the article is currently missing info from Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix, Itadaki Street DS, the info on the Anime is is lacking in content the Nintendo Comic system is also lacking, as is Hotel Mario, the Anime movie is also lacking in content the only info on Mario Hoops 3 on 3 is in the form of stats, and it's missing info on Tetris Attack, and finally theres no mention of Super Mario Kun.
#{{User|DKPetey99}} "Now, I'm new, so maybe I'm not reading the rules correctly, But I am pretty sure I did, so with that in mind, I think that this article Is AWESOME. I was actually suprised It wasn't featured when I joined. I didn't spot any bad templates, and I believe It should be featured. It's written in correct verb tense, as far as I know. It has a lot of info, and I believe It is indeed, one of the best." This is a pretty bad support vote. How is it the best? There is a template, featured articles must be flawless. Yes it has information, but like Goomba's Shoe said, some is missing. I don't see a Mario Hoops 3-on-3 section, I see a couple of red links, Mario Sports Mix has a speck of info, Super Mario Kun is missing, the Mario & Luigi series section doesn't flow and some of it seems biased. Fix these problems, and the others that I didn't mention, and then I will change my vote, but for now, the article is in pretty bad shape!
#{{User|Superfiremario}} Per all.
#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} It is written in the wrong tense in a few parts and seems to be missing information on Bowser's appearance in Mario Hoops 3 On 3.
#{{User|Mario Go!}} Per all.
#{{User|Mario Bros.!}} The first thing you see is a rewrite template.
#{{User|Cmario17}} I'm not meaning to be mean, here.  Bowser IS awesome, but how can we feature an article that will inevitably change forever?  Yes, I really like the Bowser article - its length and accuracy inspired me to join the wiki.  But as long as Mario games are made, Bowser will be there, and the article will never be truly complete.  However, if we can fix the article somehow, and keep it in good shape, I will happily change my vote.  (This same concept applies to Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, etc.)  Per all.
#{{User|UltraMario3000}} Per all.
#{{User|Supermarioguy18}} everybody you are right Bowser shall never be a feature page
#{{User|Pikachu127}} When it needs to be rewritten? Eh, nah.
#{{User|Koopa K}} Not when it needs to be rewritten.
#{{User|Supremo78}} Two improvement templates? No way.
#{{User|Gigaremo}} Per Supremo and everyone else who voted against it. However, much like Cmario17, if we can keep it in good shape, I will change my vote.
#{{User|New Super Mario}} Per all
#{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}}: Per all.
#{{User|Mariomaster228}} It even says in the [[MarioWiki:Featured_Articles#Featured_Article_Standards|Featured Article Standards]] that an article should not be featured if there are improvement templates.
#{{User|GEX}} Per all
#{{User|SuperLuigiBros.}} Per all. It has a rewrite template. That means it shouldn't be a featured article. I understand Bowser has a major role in the Mario universe, but when it needs to be rewritten? No.
#{{User|Rouwvlees}}Per all.
#{{User|J991}}Per all. There are TWO rewrite templates at the beginning...
#{{User|Greentoad}} Per all. It as a LOT of work to be done.
#{{User|Bobosmith01}} There is many mistakes. Als many wrong verbs and there tenses. If it has one of thse bars...... why should it even be thought of nomination?
#{{User|KS3}} Is is just me, or do I see two rewrite templates at the top of the page? The Mario Party section also needs expansion.
#{{User|Commander Code-8}} The way this article orders his biography is rubbish. It's got the main series first, which is right, then it's got all of the cartoon tv series and movies before the major spinoff series'.
#{{User|Spidey665}} '''Strongest Possible Oppose'''. There are wrong verbs and typos on this page, maybe if we'd all get to work on it, it'd help.
#{{User|Enriquevv75}} Per all
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per DKPetey99 and Goomba's Shoe 15
#{{User|Propeller Toad}} I'm afraid I'm going to have go with a no here. Aside from the templates and missing sections, Bowser's article also lacks images from most of his appearances (aside from the mainstream Super Mario games). It is crucial to include images in the sections with large amounts of information in order to illustrate Bowser's appearances in these games and media appearances, and by adding this to the fact of the other flaws in this article, I personally do not think Bowser's article is ready to be featured just yet. Essentially per all.
#{{User|YoshiKong}} This is quite a long article, but '''quality, not quantity'''.
#{{User|Super Famicom 64}} …per all… How in the world a guy can nominate an article with so much less information… and with '''{{tem|rewrite-expand}}'''?!
#{{User|Kamek126}} I oppose because it's missing data about some of the games and i'm afraid it lacks many images of him from older titles.

==== Removal of Opposes ====
=====All Opposes=====
#{{User|New Super Yoshi}} Look how much the article has changed. All of your opposes are now outdated.
#{{User|Toa 95}} - Most, if not all arguments on the above comments are invalid at this point. Rewrite templates are gone, every game appearance has been noted, sufficient information has been added to each section, all game appearances have been added, verb tense has been corrected, images have been added, etc.

==== Comments ====
Oh and theres no mention of his club Nintendo appearances {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

alright here's a rundown of whats missing '''Mario Party Advance, Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix, Mario Hoops 3 on 3, Itadki Street, Club Nintendo, Mario Bros. (remake), Yoshi's Cookie, Mario Party,''' so yeah theirs a lot of room for improvement not to mention that some of the info on the Comics and Anime move is lacking in detail also Hotel Mario's section has very little detail {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}<br>
@Mario Bros!, Diddy Kong Petey 99? It's DKPetey99 or DiddyKongfan020899. {{User|DKPetey99}}

'''@Mario Bros.!''': He wasn't supposed to give a reason. {{User|Yoshiwaker}}

I was thinking of unfeature stuff. Sorry. {{User|Mario Bros.!}}

@DKPetey99... Bowser IS in Hoops 3-on-3! Next time read the whole article before you bother to oppose it! {{User|MysteryGirl2012}}

:Err... She meant to get a ''point'' across? {{User|Lost Mini Star09}}

:He meant that one needs to be added. :B [[User:Lord Grammaticus|Lord Grammaticus]] 15:16, 15 February 2012 (EST)

:I meant to get a ''point'' across, Lost Mini Star09! [[User:MysteryGirl2012|MysteryGirl2012]]

Even the Mario page has construction going on. {{User:Spidey665/sig}} 17:49, 9 January 2012 (EST)

Do we really need another section for ports or remakes? Unless there are major changes in the remakes, it doesn't need to be here.--[[User:Toadshroom|Toadshroom]] 22:47, 18 February 2012 (EST)

@Toa 95 It's still missing information {{unsigned|Raven Effect}}

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While the section on Mario Roulette can't be expanded much more, I would like to see some more detail. Where did Bowser appear? It's not a mandatory thing, but I would like to see the section on Super Mario-Kun expanded with added detail as well. Some sections can be rewritten to a more neutral tone instead of a storybook type. The tense aslo has to be consistent, as I see the future tense in areas such as Yoshi's Universal Gravitation. The image in the Super Mario Galaxy section needs to be refitted in the section. The Super Mario Bros. film section shouldn't be there. Some more images can be used in the Nintendo Comics system section. Mario's Early Years section can be more detailed. The images in the Super Smash Bros. section can be refitted as well. Finally, some of the grammar can be touched up. {{User|LeftyGreenMario}}

Also, I seem to have trouble reading through this page in one sitting. I really appreciate the massive amount of information, but it seems kind of overwhelming. I don't know if personal issues should be taken into account. I'm not trying to discourage adding information, by the way. I just want to point this out. {{User|LeftyGreenMario}}
:Well, Bowser is a major character who appeared in many games. It's impossible to shorten the article any further other than removing unnecessary fluff. {{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}}

So, any other noteworthy problems? - [[User:Toa 95|Toa 95]]