Editing Category talk:Dinosaur Land

There's a lot of stuff here from Yoshi's Story. These shouldn't be in this category, because the Yoshi's Island in SMW and the Yoshi's Island from the Yoshi series are probably different Yoshi's Islands. And even if they aren't, Dinosuar Land was featured in SMW, so it should only be places in SMW in this category. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 14:05, 2 February 2008 (EST)

What is this category for exactly? -- {{User|Son of Suns}}

== Dissection of this category ==

I noticed this category appeared to be in a less-than-healthy state, so I'm going to give it a dissection just like Camwoodstock did for the lookalike categories and [[:Category:Thieves]] — though, as a massive majority of the articles here fall into a single group, this shouldn't take nearly as long.

*All levels and worlds from ''Super Mario World'' — '''Remove'''. [[:Category:Super Mario World levels]] and [[:Category:Super Mario World worlds]] are already subcategories of this category. Oddly, while the [[Valley of Bowser]], [[Star World]], and [[Special Zone]] are excluded from this category, their levels are still part of it. While excluding the latter two make sense as they are set in other dimensions, the Valley of Bowser seems to be part of Dinosaur Land, as [[Donut Secret 2|the two levels]] [[Chocolate Secret|on its cliffs]] can be accessed from Warp Pipes in [[Donut Plains]] and [[Chocolate Island]]. Either way, these special cases shouldn't be a reason to bloat this category with nearly every level and world from ''Super Mario World'', as the subcategories still make sense as a generalization.
*[[SNES Choco Island 1]] and [[SNES Choco Island 2]] — '''Keep'''. These are race courses set on Chocolate Island. We should probably apply this category to the three [[SNES Donut Plains 1|Donut]] [[SNES Donut Plains 2|Plains]] [[SNES Donut Plains 3|courses]] from ''Super Mario Kart'' as well.
*[[Dinosaur Land]] — '''Keep'''. It'd be foolhardy not to include Dinosaur Land itself in a category all about Dinosaur Land.
*[[Dome Castle]], [[Dome City]], and [[Lava Pits (Super Mario World television series)]] — '''Keep'''. These are locations in Dinosaur <s>Land</s> World exclusive to the [[Super Mario World (television series)|''Super Mario World'' television series]].
*[[Fall]] — '''Keep'''. This article refers to an alternate version of Dinosaur Land.
*[[Ghost House]] — '''Remove'''. Ghost Houses aren't an exclusive feature of Dinosaur Land.
*[[Giant Gate]] and [[Midway Gate]] — '''Remove'''. These are level objects, not locations.
*[[Star Road (Super Mario World)]] — '''Uncertain, leaning keep'''. These too are objects, but they're found on the world map rather than in levels, so I guess you could consider them "landmarks"...?
*[[Switch Palace]] — '''Uncertain, leaning remove'''. This is probably the biggest gray area in this category. The Switch Palaces in general are most prominently featured and named in-game in ''Super Mario World'', but this article also covers the [[Cap Switch]] courses in ''Super Mario 64'' and ''Super Mario 64 DS'', As the choice to include it or not would be arbitrary, I'd lean towards not doing so.

Feel free to contest any entries in this dissection. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 21:05, January 18, 2024 (EST)

This is my take on this:

*All levels and Worlds from ''Super Mario World'' - '''Remove'''. Yeah, thought MAYBE there were some cases that could be kept, but no.
*The Donut Plains and Choco Island courses - '''Keep'''. Nothing much to say about this.
*Everything else but the last 2 I agree on.
*''Super Mario World'' Star World - '''Keep''' They're landmarks, yes.
*[[Switch Palace]] - '''Keep if split, otherwise agree'''. If the Switch Palaces from ''Super Mario World'' get split from the [[Cap Switch]] courses, then I would be fine with keeping them.

That's my take, if you want to have a friendly debate about my take, or your take, I will be fine with it. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 11:29, January 26, 2024 (CST)
:Heh, no need for a debate — your take is basically the same as mine! I'll clean up this category with our feedback as soon as I can. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 12:51, January 26, 2024 (EST)
::Heh, I was talking about the differences between our takes when I was talking about having a debate. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 11:56, January 26, 2024 (CST)
:::Adding my two cents, I would remove Switch Palace too. It's just referring to the general concept (akin to Ghost House), and the levels themselves have their own articles so they'll be kept under the SMW levels category. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 12:57, January 26, 2024 (EST)
::::Well, I need to add MY 3 cents to this. The levels themselves can go, but the main Switch Palace article COULD stay, but only if the Switch Palace and Cap Switch concepts are split, otherwise it can probably go. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 12:07, January 26, 2024 (CST)

So, the cleanup is finished, but why were [[Fall]] and [[Star Road (Super Mario World)]] removed when SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) and I both agreed on including them? Is it because they're not directly locations? [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 13:54, January 26, 2024 (EST)
:I fixed that. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 07:48, January 29, 2024 (CST)
::Thanks for that! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 08:49, January 29, 2024 (EST)
:::You're welcome. I see you made a few changes. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 07:54, January 29, 2024 (CST)
::::Yep, non-media categories go first. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 08:56, January 29, 2024 (EST)