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| :That's what I basically just said three comments above, but I think the idea of just having the other image in the gallery is better, as {{User|Waluigi Time}} said that the base game's image should be the most prominent. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 19:04, September 29, 2020 (EDT) | | :That's what I basically just said three comments above, but I think the idea of just having the other image in the gallery is better, as {{User|Waluigi Time}} said that the base game's image should be the most prominent. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 19:04, September 29, 2020 (EDT) |
| | What happens when there are two or more products that can be considered the base game? Is the version with higher resolution given priority for the infobox or do both releases get an infobox image? An example would Captain Toad Treasure Tracker's Switch and 3DS release, specifically the Super Mario Odyssey based levels. [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 16:38, September 30, 2020 (EDT) |
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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
- "Vote" periods last for one week.
- Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
- All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
- For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.
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A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.
How to
Rules
- If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
- Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
- Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
- If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
- Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
- If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.
Basic proposal and support/oppose format
This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "May 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]
====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]
====Oppose====
====Comments====
Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".
Talk page proposals
All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
- For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.
Rules
- All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
- All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
- Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
- The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
- When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.
List of ongoing talk page proposals
- In Template:Species infobox, expand "Relatives" guidelines to include variant-type relationships with significant differences between species (discuss) Deadline: May 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split Speed Mario Bros. from Ultimate NES Remix (discuss) Deadline: May 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Arrow Switch with gravity switch (discuss) Deadline: May 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Re-merge Pixels with List of references in film (discuss) Deadline: May 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Rename Moneybags to Moneybag (enemy) (discuss) Deadline: May 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split "Team Dinosaur" from The Dinosaurs (discuss) Deadline: May 15, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Hat trampoline (Cascade Kingdom) to Trampoline (discuss) Deadline: May 15th, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Delete Memory Card (discuss) Deadline: May 23, 2024, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
- ^Note: This has yet to be done with with several non–Super Mario fighters who still have their own page; namely, Banjo, Fox, Inkling, Isabelle, Kirby, Link, Mega Man, Pac-Man, R.O.B., Sonic, and Villager.
Talk page proposals
List of talk page proposals
Unimplemented proposals
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Create boss level articles for Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Land series
Notes: All Donkey Kong Land boss levels have been created. Ruined Roost, Mangoruby Run, Triple Trouble, and Fugu Face-Off are now the only boss levels that still need articles.
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Aokage (talk)
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January 3, 2015
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Expand the Behemoth King article
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Owencrazyboy9 (talk)
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December 23, 2017
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Decide how to cover recurring events in the Mario & Sonic series
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BBQ Turtle (talk)
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July 17, 2018
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Split Jump Block (Mario & Wario) from Note Block
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Alternis (talk)
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July 21, 2019
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Reorganize and split Gallery:Toys and other Merchandise galleries
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Results May Vary (talk)
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July 30, 2019
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Split Buckies from Noki
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FanOfYoshi (talk)
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August 28, 2019
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Split all multi-items in the Mario Kart series
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Toadette the Achiever (talk)
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October 12, 2019
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Include information on Construction Zone for the rest of the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series
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Bye Guy (talk)
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November 24, 2019
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Split Big/Giant Shy Guy from Mega Guy
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LinkTheLefty (talk)
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February 11, 2020
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Split backwards somersault info and merge it to Backflip
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Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
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February 26, 2020
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Create a "character/species" infobox
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Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
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April 16, 2020
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Split Jaxi (dormant) from Jaxi
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Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
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April 21, 2020
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Split the attacks from Paper Mario: Sticker Star and Paper Mario: Color Splash
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Scrooge200 (talk)
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July 4, 2020
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Split the enemy variants from Wario World
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Bye Guy (talk)
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July 11, 2020
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Split the item lists from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
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Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
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July 12, 2020
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Clean up Category:Undead and Category:Deceased
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Pokemon (talk)
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August 6, 2020
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Merge Castle (WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!) and Diamond Dojo with Diamond City Castle
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Seandwalsh (talk)
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September 8, 2020
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Writing guidelines
None at the moment.
New features
None at the moment.
Removals
None at the moment.
Changes
Upload images from the base game along with remakes
So what we're going to do is replace the images from games like SMAS and SM3DAS with ones from their base game, but still keep the images in their gallery, like this:
Template:Levelbox
Put all the other images in the gallery.
Put the other images here as the game they're from
Proposer: DarkNight (talk)
Deadline: September 30, 2020, 23:59 GMT
Support
- DarkNight (talk) Per my proposal and what Doc said here.
- Waluigi Time (talk) Personally I think it makes more sense to prioritize showing the content in its original form, so agreed. Not to mention that thanks to Virtual Console and other re-releases, I'd argue that in the case of some remakes like All-Stars and 64 DS, the originals are more iconic and well-known at this point.
- Scrooge200 (talk) This always bugged me, especially with Yoshi's Island.
- LinkTheLefty (talk) Couldn't agree more.
- Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) While admittedly not as bad as the "this is a thing, but only in the reissue" style of writing, this is still a change that would do nothing but benefit (especially since a lot of environment tiles were outright changed in the SMAS redraws). A lot of older screenshot uploading priority suffered from a (rather naïve) "these ones look better so it's all we need!" mentality. In a way, this proposal is in-line with my replacing of NES port cover images with arcade materials for arcade game infoboxes. Anyways, per proposal.
- Archivist Toadette (talk) See the Choosing a Favorite Snack article as a good example for how this would work.
- Niiue (talk) Per all.
- Keyblade Master (talk) Per all
- Alex95 (talk) - I assumed this is how it was already.
- TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all.
- Mister Wu (talk) I agree, much better to show the original version of the content, as often references are based on it (like the Blue Toad in Super Mario 3D World), there’s still space in the pages to show how it was then remade.
- Superbound (talk) Same thoughts as Alex95. Per all
- Camwood777 (talk) Always thought it was weird how only SOME pages did this. I feel like remakes should be included just as much as their original counterparts.
- Flame Runner Funky Kong (talk) In my opinion there should be both the orginal and remade photos.
- Tails777 (talk) Don't we do basically the same thing with Mario Kart tracks? Original in the template box, reappearances in a gallery? I thought this was just supposed to be the normal. Per all.
- BBQ Turtle (talk) This makes a lot of sense really, like some of the other people here I'm surprised this wasn't already the standard.
Oppose
I think the proposal would be better worked out if it was drafted as a change to the image use policy. I think your points need a bit more fleshing out before we can officially apply it, since the title itself is a bit too vague for my tastes. There is a bunch of other articles that do bother me since they use images not in the original game, such as Super Mario Bros. and its use of All-Stars map images but I generally agree with the premise of the proposal nonetheless. 
Ray Trace(T|C) 18:11, September 23, 2020 (EDT)
- FYI, I'm not going through the hassle of puttting {{proposal notice}} on every page that this proposal includes.
DarkNight
18:30, September 23, 2020 (EDT)
- Um, you don't have to? I've seen plenty of encompassing proposals come and went fine without requiring usage of that template. Ray Trace(T|C) 18:36, September 23, 2020 (EDT)
- It doesn't seem vague to me, the point is just to prioritize using images from the original games rather than remakes whenever possible. I don't really think there's much fleshing out to do there. --
Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 18:38, September 23, 2020 (EDT)
- @Ray Trace. Well, that might have been because the template was unused for a long time, and I decided to start using it again. DarkNight 19:07, September 23, 2020 (EDT)
Question, would you prefer the non-base game's image also in the infobox along with the base game's instead of being in the gallery? DarkNight 00:02, September 24, 2020 (EDT)
- Doesn't matter to me either way as long as the original image is the most prominent. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 11:26, September 26, 2020 (EDT)
I recommend two template boxes next to each other or something like merging the two in a box if possible. --
HUMPNUT!!! 18:33, September 29, 2020 (EDT)
- That's what I basically just said three comments above, but I think the idea of just having the other image in the gallery is better, as Waluigi Time (talk) said that the base game's image should be the most prominent. DarkNight 19:04, September 29, 2020 (EDT)
What happens when there are two or more products that can be considered the base game? Is the version with higher resolution given priority for the infobox or do both releases get an infobox image? An example would Captain Toad Treasure Tracker's Switch and 3DS release, specifically the Super Mario Odyssey based levels. Salmancer (talk) 16:38, September 30, 2020 (EDT)
Miscellaneous
None at the moment.
Ray Trace(T|C) 18:11, September 23, 2020 (EDT)
