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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
- "Vote" periods last for one week.
- Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
- All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
- For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.
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A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.
How to
Rules
- If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
- Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
- Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
- If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail with a margin of at least three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
- Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
- If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.
Basic proposal and support/oppose format
This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "May 23, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]
====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]
====Oppose====
====Comments====
Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".
Talk page proposals
All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
- For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.
Rules
- All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
- All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
- Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
- The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
- When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.
List of ongoing talk page proposals
- Delete Memory Card (discuss) Deadline: May 23, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- In Template:Species infobox, expand "Relatives" guidelines to include variant-type relationships with significant differences between species (discuss) Deadline:
May 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT Extended to May 19, 2024, 23:59 GMT Extended to May 26, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Add a Composers Subsection to Template:Themes (discuss) Deadline: May 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Include Rainbow Coaster & Rainbow Downhill back in the Rainbow Road article (discuss) Deadline: May 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split the contents of the blimp page (discuss) Deadline: May 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Create a Rewrite-remove template (discuss) Deadline: May 30, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Decide whether to redesign the Main Page (discuss) Deadline: June 1, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Consider Spike Top derived from both Buzzy Beetles and Spinies (discuss) Deadline: June 4, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Iron Cleft with Armored Harriers (discuss) Deadline: June 6, 2024, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
- ^Note: This has yet to be done with with several non–Super Mario fighters who still have their own page; namely, Banjo, Fox, Inkling, Isabelle, Kirby, Link, Mega Man, Pac-Man, R.O.B., Sonic, and Villager.
Talk page proposals
List of Talk Page Proposals
Writing Guidelines
MarioWiki:Quotes
Everything is explained here.
I think, so that people don't come along and say "Well, he said it that makes it a quote" we should have a guideline page to explain real quotes and pseudo-quotes.
Proposer: Roy Koopa (talk)
Deadline: October 6, 2015, 23:59 GMT
Support
- Roy Koopa (talk) My proposal
Oppose
- Walkazo (talk) - Just use common sense to remove useless quotes: we already went over this less than a month ago with a different proposal. A policy page is unnecessary, just the same as how "remove stupid quotes" proposals are unnecessary: just remove bad quotes like you would with bad writing, and if there's disagreements, take it the talk page. Plus, it's better to not have rigid rules for things like this, as Bazooka Mario discusses in the comments, so really, the draft is more restrictive than anything else, which is not good.
- Bazooka Mario (talk) Per. A general rule of thumb is that if there is certain problem easily identifiable and fixable with simple good judgement, then it doesn't require a policy page.
- Warioad (talk) Per all.
- Magikrazy (talk) Per. Just per.
Why create a policy page when we can simply use good judgement to decide whenever a quote is meaningful or not? Also, some parts of your policy is vague. "Let's go" is technically a complete sentence (subject is invisible "you", verb is "let") with logical words and phrases, but it's a super generic quote. What do you mean by "Is this quote used by multiple other characters?"? Is the answer supposed to be "no" for a quote to qualify? Also, I think the best question to ask is if the quote illustrates the character. Besides, some quotes that do illustrate a character properly would technically not qualify, such as Mario's "Mama mia" since it is generic and not a complete sentence, and Metal Mario's "Mia mama" because it is not a coherent sentence. The first illustrates Mario since it's iconic while the latter illustrates Metal Mario for being a parody of Mario's quote. Also, "Let's-a go!" would also be omitted despite being an iconic quote as well. I think the "gibberish" and "screaming" sections can be integrated into a more umbrella "onomatopoeia and interjections" section (at least that sounds more technical), but again, those two are easily identifiable, so I don't think policy is needed for this.
Even if the policy is needed, it probably needs to be better written. I know it's your first crack at something like this, but the draft strikes me as very incomplete, and the proposal by content itself feels very... brisk and rushed, as if you didn't put a whole lot of thought into this, frankly. For starters, in the draft, you've provided only examples without explaining them. I suggest you actually explain first and provide examples as support rather than making them stand alone. It seems like you really want to push it, but I suggest just jump in the quote pages now rather than use the draggy proposal process. 
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:44, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
I would argue that Baby Luigi imitating engine noises does add to his personality unlike the WAAAAAHHHHHs and the HEEEHEEEHEEEES, but eh, can someone else not named Baby Luigi make that argument? 
Ray Trace(T|C) 17:46, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
- Mario imitates engine noises too, you know (wheelie in Mario Kart Wii). Actually, a lot of characters do this, including Luigi in Mario Strikers, and those "zoom zoom" quotes that I can't pinpoint. I don't see Baby Luigi's as particularly unique or defining his character. But if you're desperate, use an .ogg file and put it in Baby Luigi's gallery rather than put it into a quote page. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:48, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
- You know, we really need to get a better .ogg sound library around here. It's only barely been implemented ever since, I don't know months or a year ago. Ray Trace(T|C) 17:55, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
- Wait, another thought, can we transform the list of quotes page into a gallery of .oggs instead? Ray Trace(T|C) 17:55, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
- That, I'm not too keen on, since I don't intend MarioWiki to be a repository of sound files for Viewers Like You™, although I've been thinking about integrating voice effects into quote pages in a separate gallery. I think I actually settled for putting those VFX in media pages such as here, but I don't think it would be a hassle to put VFX in quote pages as well. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 18:00, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
- Maybe the sound files would make sense for the "onomatopeia and intejections" section, while the quote should be in written form (the reader may not be in a situation where a sound output is possible, but of course onomatopeia and interjections in written form are of little use).--Mister Wu (talk) 12:05, 23 September 2015 (EDT)
- List of Mario Kart 8 media provides a good example of a sample of quotes in audio format: the file names are descriptive enough to tell you what the audio quote is, and the audio table template itself provides an option for a caption. But otherwise, onomatopoeia and interjections serve little use in our wiki since they tell so little of the character usually. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 14:45, 23 September 2015 (EDT)
New features
None at the moment.
Removals
None at the moment.
Changes
None at the moment
Miscellaneous
None at the moment.
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:44, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
Ray Trace(T|C) 17:46, 22 September 2015 (EDT)
