MarioWiki:Proposals

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{user|User name}}. This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

  1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
  2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
    • Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
    • Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
    • Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
  4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
  5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
  6. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
  7. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
  8. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  9. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
  10. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
  11. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
  12. There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
  13. Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
  14. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: 06:26, 6 June 2024 (EDT)

New Features

None at the moment.

Removals

More Than A Joke

Over on Bulbapedia, they've recently created a rule that doesn't allow the fake "new messages" box template. And I think we should have that rule too. It was OK to start off with, but it's like that "Uranus" joke- IT'S GETTING OLD, VERY ANNOYING AND NOT EVEN REMOTELY FUNNY! Almost every User Page I go on, I see a fake "New messages" box that gets me excited, but then I put my cursor over it and it says it leads to a random page, or the "Special: Mytalk" page. They are absolutely meaningless, and it makes our Wiki look like a load of pranksters. To cut a long story short, it makes us look bad, and if somebody was thinking of joining, they might be misled into thinking that they'll just get teased a lot. So, let's get rid of those templates on User Pages!

Proposer: Hyper Guy (talk)
Deadline: July 18, 2009, 20:00

Support

  1. Because I made this proposal, I'm in. Read the description for my reason! Hyper Guy (talk)
  1. I'm going to support this proposal because to be on the fair side of things, there has been a lot of spam and vandalism on the wiki websites lately, and it would be a great opportunity to block spam and also a good way to prevent the virus from affecting the virus, should one be let loose on the Internet. Kangaflora (talk)
  1. I hate those fake boxes. Egg Yoshi (talk)
  1. Per all.I rarely get a message, and when I see that banner, I get all excited, then before I know it, I'm on some YouTube page or something. Supermario6449 (talk)

Oppose

  1. Ralphfan (talk) - It's become sort of a tradition, and so many people have it, so it would be hard to get rid of them all.
  2. Dark Lakitu 789 (talk) Per Ralpfan,The fake message box is nothing more than a harmless joke.
  3. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! Yes, it's just a harmless joke and plus before you click on it, it will tell you where will you go, and who cares about that, that is more like your personal promblem and you can click the last page button anytime. Zero signing out.
  4. Marioguy1 (talk) - The last wiki that copied Bulbapedia got caught in a huge vandalism war because Bulbapedia has over 10,000 users and lots of them really like it (I was one of the people who pointed out the similarities between the two wiki's pokemon platinum articles, yes I used to edit there under Pokemonguy1, see any similarities?). Anyhow, I don't want to enter into the same predicament that they were in.
  5. Super Mario Bros. (talk) Per all, it's not that bad of a problem, I always get caught in the joke and I actually find it funny. Also, all the users need to do is hit the back button, unless it links to this page.
  6. SpriteYoshi (talk) per all. If some user wants to act like s/he is 7 years old with the Uranus joke then let them
  7. Lu-igi board (talk) per all. harmless fun that gives you a good feeling to fall for, just like rick-rolling.

Comments

Maybe, I said MAYBE, we could make it against the rules to log users out with that thing, doing that is actually annoying - Marioguy1 (talk)

Yeah, per Marioguy1. Super Mario Bros. (talk)

I am Zero! A pokemon wikia, I HATE WIKIAS, I just wish that all wikias are deleted except for the ones that don't have a good/wiki counterpart. Zero signing out. Zero777 (talk)

Actually Zero, a wikia is a collaboration of all subjects, if the Pokémon and Mario wikis are deleted, how will that be a collaboration of all subjects? - Marioguy1 (talk)

This is (perhaps) the only good Proposal I've seen this year. Shame on all of you for opposing it. It's almost as unfunny as being rickrolled. Dom (talk)

Rickrolling is hilarious, Gamer2.1 does it to everybody, all you have to do is press the back button (yeesh, can't even take a joke) Marioguy1 (talk)

Those who find rickrolling and fake New Messages funny are sad, sad people. That's why I'm retired from this sad, sad place. The immaturity is unbearable here. Dom (talk)
Takes one to know one, See ya! Marioguy1 (talk)
Nobody is forced to visit other user's pages. Our goal is not to talk to each other and have a funny user page, but to write articles. It's fine having your own user space and putting a lot of cool stuff on your page and all, but if you say you retired because of some jokes on user sites, you didn't take the actual goal of the wiki very serious. - Cobold (talk)

you hate immaturiaty and yet you have a wombat with a mario hat on your page, Dom? the word "fail" springs to mind....Lu-igi board 13:08, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

You're saying this and yet you nominate rubbish images for FI and write down 'great picture :)' even though 95% of the time, they are not. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is Lu-igi board. And besides, St00by made them for him because he's Australian. Timmy Tim (talk)
Still, Dom accepted them and Lu-igi Board is not immature, great image is very well a reason to support an image and will you please remind me when your opinion of an image (oor even 500 people's opinions) were Lu-igi Bosrd's? Marioguy1 (talk)
If you must, continue this discussion on your talk pages, but not here. Thanks. Time Q (talk)
OK, see my talk page! Marioguy1 (talk)

Splits & Merges

None at the moment.

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

No Signature Policy on FA Pages

OK, I'm pretty nervous, this is my first proposal and I have no idea how to do it. I've asked Walkazo and I think she explained it well so bear with me. I think that the proposals for featured articles and proposals to unfeature articles are very good and put power even in the hands of the users and for this, I commend whoever helped make it. The only problem with this system (according to me) is the fact that those pages do not observe the no-signature policy. When I look at the nomination for Luigi, I see a giant mess of names and pictures which really distracts me from the point of the page. If we could just add the rule that the page follows the no-signature policy then we could follow some of the most important parts of the wiki, without getting a headache. I know this may inconvenience several users but you can show your signature off on almost every single page on the wiki! Why does it have to be on an FA page.

The pages for Featured Image, Featured Poll and even this page follow that policy, so why shouldn't the Featured Article be like the Featured Image or the Featured Poll?

Thank you and I hope you consider my proposal carefully before voting.

Proposer: Marioguy1 (talk)
Deadline: July 15, 2009, 17:00

Support

  1. Marioguy1 (talk) Well, it is my proposal, do I have to rewrite what I said here? P.S. Thanks SMB!
  2. Super Mario Bros. (talk) Why would I oppose? I like the idea... And what do you mean too much work? In fact, to prove you wrong, I would like to offer at least a little help in this project.
  3. Twentytwofiftyseven (talk) Makes sense to me. Per all.
  4. Walkazo (talk) - Per Marioguy1. Seeing as all the other voting pages follow the No-Signature Policy, it seems like an oversight that it's taken until now to include the FA pages as well.
  5. Ralphfan (talk) - Per all.
  6. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! Good idea, there should be a no-sig policy in the FAs. Zero signing out.
  7. per all Lu-igi board 13:09, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

Oppose

Comments

Basically to sum this up, read the title, it says everything. Marioguy1 (talk)

If this proposal passes successfully, please do not edit all the signatures on the existing FA nomination pages, because that would manipulate the date of the last edit, and this date is important (nominations that haven't been edited in a month are deleted). Time Q (talk)

Fine but what if we see a user edit the page, then can we take advantage of the situation and get rid of my headache forever? Marioguy1 (talk)

Yes, that would be fine. Time Q (talk)

Registered Users, and their order

Hmm mi was really bored latley and I was wondering: Why dont we have a list of users categorized from their register dates and times? It'll be an interesting read for anyone. Mabey see where they are placed and what number user they are!

Proposer: WarioLoaf (talk)
Deadline: July 20, 2009, 17:00

Support

  1. WarioLoaf (talk)

Oppose

  1. Yoshario (talk) - This looks more of a Userpedia-type project. I don't see how this would benefit the MarioWiki as a Mario-encyclopedia in any way.
  2. Walkazo (talk) - Per Yoshario.
  3. Marioguy1 (talk) - Remind me again how this would be a useful production of our time and effort? Besides, how will we do it, the MarioWiki has 36,627 users!
  4. Lu-igi board (talk) - how would that make an interesting read?

Comments

[1]? --Twentytwofiftyseven (talk)

Well, after laughing a bit... yes, i think 2257 is right... that page shows the users in "order"... Castle Toad (talk)
WarioLoaf, if you're too embarrassed to go on, it's within three days right now, you can still withdraw your proposal!