Talk:Goal Pole (secret)

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Well...

Is this actually a secret exit? Shouldn't there also be a Secret Fortress article too?--Artwork of Light Blue Yoshi in Yoshi Touch & Go Boo Who Plays Games Artwork of Red Yoshi in Yoshi Touch & Go Happy Easter! 18:08, 2 April 2011 (EDT)

We should

We should really make a NSMB section. They're in it too you know!--Artwork of Light Blue Yoshi in Yoshi Touch & Go Boo Who Plays Games Artwork of Red Yoshi in Yoshi Touch & Go Happy Easter! 17:50, 8 April 2011 (EDT)

Move to Secret Flagpole

I would like to move this page to Secret Flagpole. As the flagpole itself is not red, only the flag. Also, it could be moved to Secret Exit because creating a Secret Fortress page would be a copy to this page. I think I need to put this in proposal form? T P A 09:57, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

yepwario land 3 (talk) 07:46, 6 June 2014 (EDT)

Oppose

Comments

We should move this to Secret Goal Pole to go along with its counterpart. Technickal (talk)

Is this needed?

I don't mean to seem rude but it feels as if the purpose of this article is to dump the Secret Exit sections of the respective articles all in one place. I mean, it's basically just a palette swap with little to it garnering its own article. Am I alone in this regard? --Grammarcheck (talk) 16:35, 25 September 2016 (EDT)

Criticism is invited, just as long as you're reasonable, which you are. I do agree that this article teeters on covering strategy, which isn't allowed in this wiki. Considering that Star Coin doesn't have this insane level of information and Golden Banana's list was merged into the level articles, you also have a precedent. You have a pretty strong case to remove all of that information, I myself am pretty okay with this. However, the article on the basic information of what a Red Flagpole is and what it does makes for a valid, while short, article. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 14:39, 29 September 2016 (EDT)
This article is almost entirely a walkthrough, which goes against our good writing policy. As is, I don't support keeping it. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 14:46, 29 September 2016 (EDT)
This article is also full of spoilers--Frábært! 20:14, 27 February 2018 (EST)
...And? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 20:19, 27 February 2018 (EST)
It does not have any spoiler warning--Frábært! 18:29, 28 February 2018 (EST)
As stated on MarioWiki:About, the MarioWiki does not usually mark spoilers. --A sprite of a Flame Chomp from New Super Mario Bros. Wii.TheFlameChomp (talk) 18:30, 28 February 2018 (EST)

Name

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Is the name official? Or is it fanmade? It would appear that the encyclopedia uses it. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 09:17, June 5, 2019 (EDT)

The New Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros. Wii guides flat-out don't refer to it by a direct name, but the New Super Mario Bros. 2 and New Super Mario Bros. U guides refer to it as "Goal Pole" (sometimes "secret Goal Pole"). Maybe the article should be changed to "Goal Pole (red)" or "Goal Pole (secret)"? LinkTheLefty (talk) 14:40, June 5, 2019 (EDT)

Rewrite Requested

How would you like this article to be cleaned up? Should it be organized into tables? Lady Bow from Paper Mario. Green Star Lady Bow from Paper Mario. 19:49, April 14, 2020 (EDT)

Renaming the Red Flagpole page to Secret Goal Pole

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Current time: Thursday, May 30, 2024, 20:15 GMT

This proposal is about renaming a page that users wanted to rename for years. This page has to be rename for the following reasons:

  • It contains an unofficial names that has no source
  • The custom name is actually wrong: the flagpole is grey while the flag is red
  • It does not fit with the Goal Pole page name
  • The title does not mention its purpose of being a Secret Goal Pole

This page has to be rename because the name makes absolutely no sens at all.

Proposer: 1JUST1 (talk)
Deadline: January 12, 2021, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. 1JUST1 (talk) - Per proposal.

Oppose

  1. Waluigi Time (talk) There's no source for the name "Secret Goal Pole". If a source can't be found for Red Flagpole, then I'd prefer to see the article renamed to "red flag", which actually is sourced.
  2. DarkNight (talk) Per Waluigi Time.
  3. AwdryFan1997 (talk) Per Waluigi Time and DarkNight.

Comments

(When the proposal deals with a single page you need to make a talk page proposal instead: you put the proposal in the talk page of the article where the change should happen. Furthermore, proposals are made when there is a disagreement, so there should be a discussion before. In this case, the discussion was left open more than a year ago, without a disagreement nor a conclusion, so maybe said discussion should be revived first and foremost.--Mister Wu (talk) 11:27, December 29, 2020 (EST)) - Comment made when it was on the main proposals page.

Where is the name "Secret Goal Pole" actually used? Unofficial names aren't uncommon here, we have plenty of conjectural titles here. We do have other sourced names for this, however. And the current name is still accurate, the flag is part of the flag pole. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 11:41, December 29, 2020 (EST)

Apparently the NSMB2 and NSMBU guides use "secret Goal Pole", but never "Secret Goal Pole". They seem to just be referring to these as Goal Poles while adding secret as a generic adjective. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 12:00, December 29, 2020 (EST)
As a matter of fact, the flag is part of the flagpole the same as a roof is part of a house. You cannot say the house is red if it is only the color of the roof. Moreover, the name "secret Goal Pole" (not capitalized, I apologize) is used in guides as said Waluigi Time. Finally, the current name has no source. So, why not rename it with an accurate name that is nto wrong, and with a source? 1JUST1 (talk) 12:29, December 29, 2020 (EST)
You can edit a proposal in the first three days (well, six for talk page proposals like this one), so if you want to fix the capitalization you can do that now.--Mister Wu (talk) 13:49, December 29, 2020 (EST)