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Yes, this is better. - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
Yes, this is better. - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
==Which name?==
==Which name?==
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These are the names of the boss levels in the ''Super Game Boy'' Player's Guide.
These are the names of the boss levels in the ''Super Game Boy'' Player's Guide.
*[[Final Boss: The Big Bird|Final Boss]]: The [[Big Bird]]
*[[Final Boss: The Big Bird|Final Boss]]: The [[Big Bird]]
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Besides the Pigs (which were named the "Three Little Pigheads" in a second appearance), the sewer rat stands out here, referred to as the "mouse" in the description (lowercase, but so's "sewer rat"). Since this is a physical guide source, it has higher priority. Besides that, ''sewer'' rat might be a misnomer. Yes, it uses pipes, but it's located on the house's second floor. So, taking a page from the [[Witch (boss)|Witch]] and [[octopus (boss)|octopus]], perhaps "sewer rat" should be "mouse (boss)" instead. It'd just be consistent with how Big Bird overrides "bird" from Mario Portal. Or alternatively, maybe the "rat" (per [https://www.superluigibros.com/images/media/nintendopower/43_sml2/050.jpg Nintendo Power]) since it's more common than "mouse". [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:30, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
Besides the Pigs (which were named the "Three Little Pigheads" in a second appearance), the sewer rat stands out here, referred to as the "mouse" in the description (lowercase, but so's "sewer rat"). Since this is a physical guide source, it has higher priority. Besides that, ''sewer'' rat might be a misnomer. Yes, it uses pipes, but it's located on the house's second floor. So, taking a page from the [[Witch (boss)|Witch]] and [[octopus (boss)|octopus]], perhaps "sewer rat" should be "mouse (boss)" instead. It'd just be consistent with how Big Bird overrides "bird" from Mario Portal. Or alternatively, maybe the "rat" (per [https://www.superluigibros.com/images/media/nintendopower/43_sml2/050.jpg Nintendo Power]) since it's more common than "mouse". [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:30, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
:[https://www.nintendo.com/jp/character/mario/en/history/land2/index.html Mario Portal] calls this boss "sewer rat", and per [[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable_sources_for_naming|naming policy]], a name from an official Nintendo-hosted website has higher priority over any physical guide source. Besides, I think that not renaming "Big Bird" to "bird (boss)" is more of an oversight than a model to follow — and at the very least, "Big Bird" is capitalized whereas "mouse" and "rat" are not. {{User:Jdtendo/sig}} 05:19, April 13, 2024 (EDT)
:[https://www.nintendo.com/jp/character/mario/en/history/land2/index.html Mario Portal] calls this boss "sewer rat", and per [[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable_sources_for_naming|naming policy]], a name from an official Nintendo-hosted website has higher priority over any physical guide source. Besides, I think that not renaming "Big Bird" to "bird (boss)" is more of an oversight than a model to follow — and at the very least, "Big Bird" is capitalized whereas "mouse" and "rat" are not. {{User:Jdtendo/sig}} 05:19, April 13, 2024 (EDT)
::It's not really an oversight so much as a recent naming policy change, but in light of that, I guess there's no use trying to fight it. I'd argue source priority exception for Big Bird since "bird" would also necessarily need an identifier, but if there's objections to it, that's for another discussion/proposal. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 06:45, April 13, 2024 (EDT)

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I personally like this name over "Rat". -- Son of Suns

Dude yeah. 3dhammer.gif 3D, go originality. 3dhammer.gif

Yes, this is better. - Ultimatetoad

Which name?[edit]

These are the names of the boss levels in the Super Game Boy Player's Guide.

Besides the Pigs (which were named the "Three Little Pigheads" in a second appearance), the sewer rat stands out here, referred to as the "mouse" in the description (lowercase, but so's "sewer rat"). Since this is a physical guide source, it has higher priority. Besides that, sewer rat might be a misnomer. Yes, it uses pipes, but it's located on the house's second floor. So, taking a page from the Witch and octopus, perhaps "sewer rat" should be "mouse (boss)" instead. It'd just be consistent with how Big Bird overrides "bird" from Mario Portal. Or alternatively, maybe the "rat" (per Nintendo Power) since it's more common than "mouse". LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:30, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

Mario Portal calls this boss "sewer rat", and per naming policy, a name from an official Nintendo-hosted website has higher priority over any physical guide source. Besides, I think that not renaming "Big Bird" to "bird (boss)" is more of an oversight than a model to follow — and at the very least, "Big Bird" is capitalized whereas "mouse" and "rat" are not. Jdtendo(T|C) 05:19, April 13, 2024 (EDT)
It's not really an oversight so much as a recent naming policy change, but in light of that, I guess there's no use trying to fight it. I'd argue source priority exception for Big Bird since "bird" would also necessarily need an identifier, but if there's objections to it, that's for another discussion/proposal. LinkTheLefty (talk) 06:45, April 13, 2024 (EDT)