Editing Talk:Charles Martinet

hey, how can he voice koops if koops does'nt talk?

{{User:Super paper luigi/sig}}
:doesn't koops grunt a few times? {{User:Great Gonzo/sig}}

He also voices a few sound effects.{{User:Knife/sig}} 14:39, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

including professor frankly?

--{{User:Super paper luigi/sig}} 14:41, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

==Wikipedia link==
I think we should add a link to his Wikipedia page. It shows his works and films there. [[User:Ragazzo|Ragazzo]] 02:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

:How come his works keep getting deleted? [[User:Ragazzo|Ragazzo]] 21:00, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

:Non-Mario stuff are deleted.
[[Special:Contributions/142.134.147.211|142.134.147.211]] 18:19, 24 August 2013 (EDT)

== We Should Expand... ==

I think there is more info that we can put on this page; for example, the way he got the job (I think the story is interesting) or a list of all the characters he voices. {{User:Mariomario64/Sig}} 06:46, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

How could he have voiced DK if it's only just sound effects (ape noises, etc.)? --[[User:SmartieMaxx|SmartieMaxx]] 18:30, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

:If he made the sound effects with his voice, then he officially voiced that character :)

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}}

::Were not they just stock sound effects remixed a bit? --[[User:SmartieMaxx|SmartieMaxx]] 18:33, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

:::What I do know is that [[Kazumi Totaka]] (voice of [[Yoshi]]), his voice is recorded, and then made a higher pitch. See [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnSeCSgoqNY here]. 

:::{{User:YoshiKong/sig}}

::::I know that but what does Yoshi's voice have to do with Martinet as Donkey Kong? Also, what kind of conclusion could you come to like that? It's like saying that Tara Strong voiced Bowser Jr. because it says so on ''her'' website. -[[User:SmartieMaxx|SmartieMaxx]] 22:07, 1 July 2012 (EDT)

:::::It's called many things.  First, it's vocal effects combined with voice manipulation.  VAs voice animals ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Winslow and other things]) all the time (for example, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KGDKtg5pxA#t=1m28s Frank Welker once voiced a bear]) - combine this with a little editing and you'll have the exact same scenario as the MK64 DK voice.  Second, it's a budget-friendly option.  Why go through the trouble of recording a real ape when you can get someone to simulate it and get really close to that type of sound?  The aforementioned editing helps here, too.  Third, and most importantly, it's called a '''fact'''.  It's written on Martinet's site and there is no evidence that contradicts this.  What you are using is called an "'''opinion'''" and it's quite the opposite of a fact because your contradictory statements, with no direct evidence to back them up, are as good as a bent arrow.  Unless you can find official proof that undoubtedly contradicts mine and isn't based solely on your own conceptions, shut your mouth.  Also, don't let that one previous offense with Strong corrupt all your future judgments: it's called an exception, not a standard.  Please do two things for me: get a clue and stop acting like the spoiled child you have been since you joined.  [[User:Kyubihanyou|Kyubihanyou]] 14:29, 8 July 2012 (EDT)

== Favourite Mario games ==

He has also stated that it was Super Mario Sunshine, and Super Mario Maker (with years between the statements, of course). There is a possibility that he is asked to promote the current game of course. The source for both of these are videos which I don't have the link for. --[[User:Hiccup|Hiccup]] ([[User talk:Hiccup|talk]]) 13:51, 3 October 2015 (EDT)

== Citation for Bowser and Boo ==
{{Talk}}
I've seen the claim that the stock laugh sound effect for Bowser and Boo ("Sound Ideas, HUMAN, LAUGH - COMICAL LAUGH: MALE") was actually voiced by Charles Martinet, and it's repeated here on Super Mario Wiki. Currently, this article cites Thomas Game Docs' video, which in turn cites the Sound Effects Wiki... which doesn't cite any particular source. Every other time this claim is made, its citations ultimately lead back to the Sound Effects Wiki, or no citation is provided at all. While I think it's absolutely plausible that the laugh was recorded by Martinet, I think we should be citing a primary source, not a secondary source like Thomas Game Docs or Sound Effects Wiki. Does anyone know the actual direct source of this information? Or was it just an editor on Sound Effects Wiki erroneously presenting speculation as fact, which keeps getting parroted by others? --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 19:30, May 11, 2021 (EDT)

:Over a year and a half later, and still no answer. As of this writing, the Sound Effects Wiki now [https://soundeffects.fandom.com/wiki/Sound_Ideas,_HUMAN,_LAUGH_-_COMICAL_LAUGH:_MALE says] that this is only unconfirmed speculation, which means that Thomas Game Docs' video is left without a verifiable source. Again, I have to ask if there is any primary source that confirms the "Comical Laugh: Male is Charles Martinet" claim. For now, I'm adding [citation needed] tags to the article, but it may have to be outright removed if it cannot be proven. --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 19:23, December 2, 2022 (EST)
[[File:Charles_Martinet_and_the_Comical_Laugh.png|thumb]]
::I took it upon myself to reach out to the Sound Effects Wiki and ask General Maho (the bureaucrat/administrator who originally created the "Sound Ideas, HUMAN, LAUGH - COMICAL LAUGH: MALE" article and wrote that it was performed by Charles Martinet) where this information originally came from. Unfortunately, they could not remember, so they agreed that it should not asserted as fact unless it could be verified. I've included a screenshot of this discussion to the right for record-keeping. With that in mind, I think it's best if Super Mario Wiki does not repeat this claim or cite Thomas Game Docs' video, at least until a more definitive answer can be found. --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 11:15, December 24, 2022 (EST)
:::Since this is effectively unsourced information now, I'm going to go ahead and remove it. Thanks for pointing this out, and apologies for no sooner responses - sometimes these sorts of things slip through the cracks. For future reference, [[Template:Talk]] should be used for discussions like this that need to be addressed to give them more visibility. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:28, December 24, 2022 (EST)
::::Okay, thanks for letting me know about [[Template:Talk]]! I've gone ahead and added it to this discussion, since there's now been a new development in this investigation.
[[File:Charles Martinet and the Comical Laugh Pt 2.png|thumb]]
::::I had a [https://soundeffects.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:PeabodySam?threadId=4400000000000065160 discussion] with another user on Sound Effects Wiki, Wiggleszep. They reached out to Charles Martinet via email and directly asked him about the laugh. It took quite a bit of prodding since Martinet was [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/6efea8fa-aed3-4f91-ab5c-a248a418d83c/scale-to-width/755 initially unsure about it,] especially since [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/7dc09d8f-6416-4c0a-be82-a2259789dc91/scale-to-width/755 he was struggling to remember whether he recorded this laugh over thirty years ago.] However, when given a link to the full Sound Ideas Library that the laugh comes from, [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/37bd6e5a-96be-4f4d-8970-45c20095ebd8/scale-to-width/755 he said that he's "pretty sure that's me then" and also recognized other recorded sound effects.] Again, for record-keeping, I've included the screenshot of that email to the right.

::::Would this be strong enough evidence to reinstate Charles Martinet as the voice actor for Bowser and Boo? --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 18:57, January 4, 2023 (EST)

: In Super Mario 64 DS, Bowser's laugh sounds exactly like Luigi, who is voiced by Charles Martinet, so I'd say so. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 10:53, January 5, 2023 (EST)

: Same. [[User:Guzzlord|Guzzlord]] ((User Talk:Guzzlord|talk]]) 13:24, January 5, 2023 (EST)
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 == Citation for Bowser and Boo ==
+{{Talk}}
 I've seen the claim that the stock laugh sound effect for Bowser and Boo ("Sound Ideas, HUMAN, LAUGH - COMICAL LAUGH: MALE") was actually voiced by Charles Martinet, and it's repeated here on Super Mario Wiki. Currently, this article cites Thomas Game Docs' video, which in turn cites the Sound Effects Wiki... which doesn't cite any particular source. Every other time this claim is made, its citations ultimately lead back to the Sound Effects Wiki, or no citation is provided at all. While I think it's absolutely plausible that the laugh was recorded by Martinet, I think we should be citing a primary source, not a secondary source like Thomas Game Docs or Sound Effects Wiki. Does anyone know the actual direct source of this information? Or was it just an editor on Sound Effects Wiki erroneously presenting speculation as fact, which keeps getting parroted by others? --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 19:30, May 11, 2021 (EDT)
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 ::::Would this be strong enough evidence to reinstate Charles Martinet as the voice actor for Bowser and Boo? --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 18:57, January 4, 2023 (EST)
-:::::I'd say confirmation from Martinet himself would be good enough. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:33, January 13, 2023 (EST)
-: In Super Mario 64 DS, Bowser's laugh sounds exactly like Luigi, who is voiced by Charles Martinet, so I'd say so. And besides, someone had to have recorded the sound effect in the first place. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 10:53, January 5, 2023 (EST)
+: In Super Mario 64 DS, Bowser's laugh sounds exactly like Luigi, who is voiced by Charles Martinet, so I'd say so. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 10:53, January 5, 2023 (EST)
-: Same. [[User:Guzzlord|Guzzlord]] ([[User Talk:Guzzlord|talk]]) 13:24, January 5, 2023 (EST)
+: Same. [[User:Guzzlord|Guzzlord]] ((User Talk:Guzzlord|talk]]) 13:24, January 5, 2023 (EST)
-That laugh was also used for Six Face Sal, Baby Bowser, Dry Bones and Chortlebot.
-https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:MobileDiff/3827858 [[User:Guzzlord|Guzzlord]] ([[User Talk:Guzzlord|talk]]) 00:22, February 4, 2023 (EST)
-== The Big Bob-omb (King Bob-omb) ==
-Charles Martinet also had done the king of Bob-ombs in Mario 64, just to let everyone know, just like for the chain chomps, whomps, thwomps, more, and Big Boo too. I get you're probably and possibly gonna say or ask me if there's proof of it, but if you go back and listen to his voice in every game he's ever played in, I feel and felt like Charles Martinet himself in Super Mario 64 and other games had somewhere his voice was playing as King or the Big Bob-omb, unless of course their just a sound effect that have from the thwomps and whomps and grindels.
-https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=king+bob-omb  {{unsigned|Alexkrzywicki1}}
-:To me, the whole situation relies on very shaky information that, evident from the above section, Martinet himself has issues confirming. It's a lot of speculation and I feel it's better off as a trivia note that states he has claimed to voice these characters, similar to how he recalls to have voiced Wario in Mario Party games when it's Thomas Spindler. {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:09, September 3, 2023 (EDT)
-::Feels especially difficult to confirm a VA for a nondescript "BWIM-BWIM-BWIM" noise than any of the others. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:14, September 3, 2023 (EDT)