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* No spamming, trolling, vandalism, or other such nonsense. That should be blatantly obvious. | * No spamming, trolling, vandalism, or other such nonsense. That should be blatantly obvious. | ||
* Friend requests will be ignored. | * Friend requests will be ignored. | ||
* If I post a message on your talk page, | * <big><big><big>'''I do not like RE: messages. If I post a message on your talk page, please just respond on your talk page instead of sending me a RE: message. I really am not fond of that replying back and forth thing so many users do, which makes trying to follow these conversations a total chore. Unless I absolutely ''need'' to be informed of something ASAP for whatever reason, I'd rather keep it on one page. On the same note, if you post on my talk page, don't expect any notifications, since I will respond to it here. It's a lot easier for me when I don't have to keep going back and forth between user talk pages just to follow a discussion.'''</big></big></big> | ||
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== RE: Trouble center missions == | == RE: Trouble center missions == | ||
It's fine with me if you add a "chapter" parameter on [[Template: | It's fine with me if you add a "chapter" parameter on [[Template:Mission infobox]]. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 22:01, 11 October 2017 (EDT) | ||
:That's not my job. I'm telling you you're doing something incorrectly, you should be willing to fix it yourself. Instead, you want me to fix it for you. You created those articles, so you should be the one to adequately convey how the chapters are relevant to the troubles, and simply slapping them under the "level" parameter does not do that. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 00:34, 13 October 2017 (EDT) | :That's not my job. I'm telling you you're doing something incorrectly, you should be willing to fix it yourself. Instead, you want me to fix it for you. You created those articles, so you should be the one to adequately convey how the chapters are relevant to the troubles, and simply slapping them under the "level" parameter does not do that. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 00:34, 13 October 2017 (EDT) | ||
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*'''EOLAOBFENRLONE''' - Free Balloon | *'''EOLAOBFENRLONE''' - Free Balloon | ||
:I never knew about these three before today. I don't think these can show up after the credits; they were likely used for debugging, but I tested them and they work. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 14:52, 27 November 2017 (EST) | :I never knew about these three before today. I don't think these can show up after the credits; they were likely used for debugging, but I tested them and they work. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 14:52, 27 November 2017 (EST) | ||
::Yeah, found the whole list on the ''[[Diddy Kong Racing]]'' page after {{User| | ::Yeah, found the whole list on the ''[[Diddy Kong Racing]]'' page after {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} edited the corresponding section. Strange, I wonder where ''Nintendo Power'' got the High Speed Racers code from. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:55, 27 November 2017 (EST) | ||
== Wario World == | == Wario World == | ||
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:I do understand where you're coming from, which is why I prefer using character names when applicable (e.g. Mario is the only playable character in (the original) ''Super Mario 64''), but there is nothing in the manual of style that supports your pedantry, especially since your suggested alternative of "the playable characters" in such a context sounds awkward. For example, let's try inserting it into this sentence: "[[Chimp Chase#Gameplay|If one of the adult Ukikis screams out, the Ukikis of the same color freeze, giving '''the playable characters''' a chance to get them.]]" It's not ''wrong'', it just sounds clunky. | :I do understand where you're coming from, which is why I prefer using character names when applicable (e.g. Mario is the only playable character in (the original) ''Super Mario 64''), but there is nothing in the manual of style that supports your pedantry, especially since your suggested alternative of "the playable characters" in such a context sounds awkward. For example, let's try inserting it into this sentence: "[[Chimp Chase#Gameplay|If one of the adult Ukikis screams out, the Ukikis of the same color freeze, giving '''the playable characters''' a chance to get them.]]" It's not ''wrong'', it just sounds clunky. | ||
:If this bothers you ''that'' much, then as you said, you can rewrite the article to omit the need for such terms. In fact, [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Vanilla_Secret_3&diff=3196331&oldid=3196293 I just did]. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 19:28, May 9, 2021 (EDT) | :If this bothers you ''that'' much, then as you said, you can rewrite the article to omit the need for such terms. In fact, [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Vanilla_Secret_3&diff=3196331&oldid=3196293 I just did]. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 19:28, May 9, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::We'd rewrite the article to avoid these terms, as you demonstrated, rather than just text replacing every instance of "player" to "character." Although, I think "players" feels appropriate in the context of ''Mario Party''; as the in-universe characters are ''playing'' a minigame, it's accurate. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 19:38, May 9, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Anti Guy == | |||
Hey, so you said you'd be willing to change your vote on that proposal if presented with enough evidence...anyways, I think if it goes through it can be used potentially as some manner of precedence for Spike Tops (also on my radar is Pale Piranha and Moon Cleft)...anyways, as of right now, if you do change your vote, that'll swing it to the difference of three needed to pass it, as it's currently shaping up to be a no quorum. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:52, May 23, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Unfortunately, I didn't really get the evidence I was looking for. I was thinking of something along the lines of a previous proposal with similar circumstances to Anti Guy's that succeeded, which might have changed my mind on the issue. There's no guarantee that Red Spike Top would get merged just because of an Anti Guy merge, since the two cases aren't identical to one another. The two would have to be proposed together for me to cast a vote in favor. | |||
:(By the way, "no quorum" does not mean "no consensus", it means "not enough votes", meaning three or less were cast.) {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 22:16, May 23, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::One thing I do want to point out is that the Black Shy Guy article contains information for more than just the CS/TOK enemy; notably, a giant opponent from ''Mario Tennis Aces'' (that AFAIK isn't actually named at all in-game, though due to being quite distinct from normal Shy Guys counts as a "non-generic" appearance even if the article is trimmed) is there, yet Anti Guy is treated as, I guess "more different" than that? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:46, May 24, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== IP address == | |||
I went ahead and hid your IP from that edit revision. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 21:38, May 23, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:OK, thanks. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 21:39, May 23, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== RE: Edit request == | |||
Fixed it, thanks. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:03, June 6, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== This. == | |||
This. I have been thinking about this for a while and it is about updating all of the Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, and Super Mario Galaxy (but not Super Mario Galaxy 2), level information for Super Mario 3D All-Stars. [[Special:Contributions/107.146.244.150|107.146.244.150]] 16:07, June 24, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== That Mario Party Superstars section == | |||
Thanks for fixing that mistake there. I'm gonna be honest, I have absolutely no idea how that got deleted. I think it's because I was looking at a different revision for the talk page and accidentally started editing the talk page from there. Didn't mean for that to happen, but thanks for catching that. My bad. {{User:Tails777/sig}}18:41, July 16, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Re: Minor edits == | |||
Ah, I'll start using minor edits now. You didn't have to be so condescending and rude about it, though. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 17:24, July 28, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:I did not say anything rude nor condescending to you. All I did was simply inform you of the mistake you were making, and my comment contained no snark or insults, so I'm not sure why you took such offense to it. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 17:07, July 29, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== RE:''MPS'' Board Images == | |||
Oh, sorry about that. I got them from Mario Party Legacy's main page. I'll add them right now. {{User:WildWario/sig}} 20:08, September 26, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Proposal in question == | |||
I purposefully left out a link to that citation proposal because I cringe hard at the interactions and non-sequitur arguments I had going in it. I did not want to expose other people to that potentially malign influence on their day. <small>Please understand.</small> {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 18:40, October 1, 2021 (EDT) | |||
EDIT: Nevermind, you were referring to a 2011 proposal, not the one I made in 2020. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 18:42, October 1, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== About that late vote… == | |||
I didn’t know that the proposal was over. It was just an accident. {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}} | |||
==About Cap Switch== | |||
Hey, so as the proposal creator, what's your stance on more conveniently covering the ''Super Mario 64 DS'' equivalent in the new Cap Switch article, a la [[Talk:Wing Cap|some]] [[Talk:Keronpa Ball|other]] [[Template talk:SM64 missions|proposal]]s? My solution seems to have boosted the passing of the "merge Purple Switch and split Cap Switch" proposal option. I'd really want to get around to opening a discussion about the Cap Blocks next. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:50, November 29, 2021 (EST) | |||
:Honestly, the thought doesn't sit too well with me. While the change from a "!" to a "?" does seem trivial, and it kind of is, what isn't is the effect of the switch, which differs from the N64 switches due to the overhaul of the item mechanics. There are no caps in the DS version, just the [[Power Flower]], so it's technically not a ''Cap'' Switch anymore. I see it as more of a [[Nokottasu]] and [[Big Koopa Troopa]] situation, in that they are similar things that fill similar roles in different versions of a game (not a perfect comparison, but eh). Not to mention I am completely at odds with the outcome of that Wing Cap proposal and want to revisit it at some point. | |||
:As for Cap Block, I'm fine with splitting it, but if we do, I think [[Metal Box]] should be merged with it. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 19:28, November 30, 2021 (EST) | |||
::I'm a bit disappointed, but it's your proposal, so you're the boss. The outcome of the Wing Cap proposal isn't something I particularly agreed with at the time either, and I'm not sure how I personally think about it now, but I believe it is part of a distinct pattern showing that the wiki overall prefers to keep original/remake info like that [[MarioWiki:Once and only once|more concisely in one place]] when the differences are basically aesthetic. The Nokottasu and Big Koopa Troopa split was sort of an anomaly in this regard, and I feel like that one may be revisited someday too, considering Presenter wasn't similarly split into Monty Mole. The existence of the Metal Box article somewhat complicating Cap Block is precisely why I wanted to open a discussion on it, but it seems someone's already made a [[Talk:! Block|proposal]]. I guess I'll wait and see how things turn out first. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:01, December 1, 2021 (EST) | |||
::I also want to point out, though, since I'm not sure it was clear enough during the proposal, that the "''Cap''" Switch and Block moniker is a change to the original English localization - they are actually the less specific "''Item''" Switch and Block in the Japanese version, so by that metric, there is no contradiction. There are "[[tcrf:Super Mario 64 DS#Cap Blocks (0x0021 to 0x0023)|Cap Blocks]]" unused in the game, but these aren't intended to be the same "''Cap''" Blocks - in fact, the used, red "? Block" is still known as <tt>ITEM_BLOCK</tt> internally (VS game, <tt>VS_ITEM_BLOCK</tt>), just like the ''Super Mario 64'' version. Additionally, while the English manual gives the name "! Block" to the yellow block, the Japanese manual gives the name "''Orange Block''" which, while different from the ''Super Mario 64'' version ("''yellow block''"), still fits within the colored block naming scheme despite there no longer being green or blue blocks to have to make color differentiation necessary. In some ways, maintaining symbol-strictness between game versions is like splitting Tower of the Wing Cap and ? Switches of Rainbow Tower. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:26, December 4, 2021 (EST) | |||
== Cap Block == | |||
If I were to include an option to merge the [[Metal Box]] article with the Cap Block article (if it gets recreated), how would I suggest that on my proposal? And if the articles were to be merged, how would info about the green Cap Block be talked about on an article about all three Cap Blocks? [[User:Dwhitney|Dwhitney]] ([[User talk:Dwhitney|talk]]) 17:20, December 2, 2021 (EST) | |||
:You don't have to suggest it since I already suggested it for you and gave reasoning for it. If necessary, just add a mention in the proposal text that you added a third option based on my suggestion. On a side note, your proposal seems very rushed, which is never a good thing. All you said on your proposal was "someone added a split suggestion template." You're seemingly attempting to get Cap Block split based entirely on that, without mentioning ''why'' you agree with splitting it. Try to put more effort into writing your proposals next time, and don't take action or make proposals ''just'' because you saw one of those templates. | |||
:If my option wins, the resulting article would be split into history sections like most articles are - one for ''SM64'' (which would talk about all three blocks) and one for ''Smash'' (which would be specifically about the Metal Box). | |||
:{{User:7feetunder/sig}} 19:01, December 2, 2021 (EST) | |||
== A question! == | |||
Hello, I am wondering why the category Siblings is redundant on the page "Henry and Orville". If you could explain to me, that would be nice. Thanks in advance. {{User:2021snow/Sig}} | |||
:It's redundant because [[Henry and Orville]] are already in the Twins category, which is a subcategory of Siblings. See [[MarioWiki:Categories]] for more detail on how categories work. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 01:51, December 16, 2021 (EST) | |||
::Alright, so if I see a page that has a category and a subcategory, I should remove the category that's not a subcategory but keep the subcategory? Seems like a good idea. I did that with the Mario page already. Please tell me if what I am thinking is correct is indeed correct. I will find more like that if that is the case. {{User:2021snow/Sig}} | |||
== Parasol == | |||
A couple of days ago, I moved the Parasol page to Parasol (Super Smash Bros.) and then today, Mario jc moved it back saying "Moving the page alone isn't the whole process and doesn't fully resolve the issue brought up on the talk page" in the edit summary. Is there some other way to make sure the Super Smash Bros. Parasol doesn't take priority over the Mario Parasols? [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 23:02, March 15, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== Good point raised == | |||
You raised a good point [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Kroc&diff=3240162&oldid=3200288 here], thank you [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 19:50, March 29, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:Also, sry for accidentally voting past the deadline on Doc's proposal. I was told that I have to be more careful next time & look at date before voting. Thank you for moving my comment [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 12:10, April 14, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== Courtesy == | |||
We've noticed a number of less than agreeable interactions with other users over the past months, wheter it's referring to another user's argument as "[https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/58#Comments_7 completely asinine]", [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AHome-Run_Contest&type=revision&diff=3617190&oldid=3604672 ranting at a guy for expressing a different perspective on the wiki's Smash coverage], or more recently, [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Proto_Piranha&type=revision&diff=3698982&oldid=3698016 ALL-CAPPING at an admin for reverting one of your edits]. | |||
Now, your removal of that bit from the Proto Piranha ''is'' the correct thing to do, and yeah I can see how it was frustrating to see it reverted like that, but that doesn't excuse the flippant tone here. I'm just saying, before sending something, do pause and consider if your choice of adjective and formatting is all that necessary (or wanted). --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 17:08, June 28, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:To be entirely fair to myself, the ALL-CAPS thing is something I would have normally used ''italics'' to emphasize, but I can't do that in an edit summary. I did not intend it to come off as yelling. Also, my frustration was less over the reversion itself and more the failure to understand why I removed it in the first place, something I thought my edit summary made clear. I see what you're saying though. I do attempt to avoid harshness when posting, but I'm not perfect. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 19:39, June 28, 2022 (EDT) | |||
==re:Paper Mario== | |||
I see you deleted part of my edit to the SMRPG references section but I disagree that it is a stretch. | |||
-Both forest maze and the desert are a series of room with (usually) three or four exists that require some external assistance (Geno in SMRPG, the stone in Paper Mario) to find the next thing that progress the plot without wandering aimlessly. <br> | |||
-In SMRPG, a NPC cryptically tells you to "Left, Left, Straight, Right" to find something presumably useful in the maze. <br> | |||
-In Paper Mario, a NPC vaguely tells you to go "Three south, two west" to find something valuable in the desert. | |||
Not exactly the same solution or reward, but conceptually similar and I could definitely see someone on the Paper Mario development team having that SMRPG secret in mind when writing that hint. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 20:39, July 24, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:Forest Maze has more in common with [[Forever Forest]] than it does Dry Dry Desert. Both are forest areas (albeit dramatically different atmospherically) with four exits per room that send you back to the start if you take a wrong turn, and both have optional hidden rooms with goodies in them. Dry Dry Desert isn't that kind of area. It's essentially a 7x7 grid; there's no "send back" mechanic like the forests. The "go in these directions" thing dates back to the Lost Woods in the original ''Legend of Zelda'', and you don't even have to do what Merluvlee tells you to find the badge, you just have to go to the specific spot on the grid where it is. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 20:58, July 24, 2022 (EDT) | |||
::Aight Aight. I'm playing the game for the first time this week so I felt a big sense of deja vu when I read that line from the Toad npc. I'll keep that in mind re Forever Forest. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 21:41, July 24, 2022 (EDT) | |||
==RE: [[Ruin]]== | |||
Good evening! The alternative name comes from one of Power Moons. I also believe to have seen it in the Prima guide, though I could be misremembering. [[User:Spectrogram|Spectrogram]] ([[User talk:Spectrogram|talk]]) 14:51, July 27, 2022 (EDT) | |||
==Regarding matters of conversation== | |||
It's completely fair if you prefer writing your own responses on your talk page when someone else initiates a conversation, but I don't think it's courteous to [[User talk:Spectrogram|dictate others where to put their messages for you to see]]. Users on this website have the freedom to express themselves wherever the userspace allows for it; you ought not to lay them some arbitrary restriction on the pretense that "it's more convenient for me". {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:57, July 27, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:''I'' don't think it's courteous that you're trivializing my disdain for a long-time pet peeve of mine by calling it "arbitrary" and a "pretense". I have a very good reason for disliking RE: messages. When users keep posting back and forth on each other's talk pages, it's hard to follow because I can only see half of the convo at once. It's even worse when the discussion is older or one of the users have high talk page activity, and I have to dig through user talk page archives to find the other half. I understand that not everyone hates it as much as I do, which I why don't butt in on convos that have nothing to do with me just to tell people to stop doing this, even though it gets on my nerves. I'd just at least rather people not do it with ''me'', which is why I say not to do it at the top of my talk page. Plenty of users have their "things" they don't like people doing on their talk pages (like swearing for instance), and RE: messages are mine. So if someone misses that, I don't see a problem with informing them in a non-angry way that I'd rather them not do that. Spectrogram didn't have a problem with it either, so I don't see why you're getting on my case for it. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 18:38, July 27, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== Moon Cleft edit == | |||
I'm sorry for not explaining this when I made that edit, but for enemies only appearing in ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' (e.g. [[Spunia]], [[Swampire]], etc.), we simply use the bestiary infobox without the species infobox. [[User:ShootingStar7X|ShootingStar7X]] ([[User talk:ShootingStar7X|talk]]) 20:54, August 3, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:I've never liked the practice of using bestiary infoboxes as main infoboxes for RPG enemies. It creates inconsistencies with other enemy articles and, in the case of enemies that are or have variants, leaves that info out. It's neither beneficial nor universally accepted, so I don't see any reason to cling to it, and I'd support nixing the practice entirely. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 21:32, August 3, 2022 (EDT) | |||
::If that's the case, make a proposal on it. I have no strong opinions on the practice, so I'll abstain from voting. [[User:ShootingStar7X|ShootingStar7X]] ([[User talk:ShootingStar7X|talk]]) 08:36, August 4, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:::Just thought I'd mention my thoughts on this, I don't mind using the statbox up top for enemies that only appear in one RPG game and have only one statbox, and using a proper infobox for enemies with multiple statboxes which can have their own section (one exception to this would be [[Dark Paratroopa]], since the ''Paper Mario'' statbox is basically unused data). The Moon Cleft article as it is now still mentions in the opening sentence that it is a variant of Cleft and that it appears in ''Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door'', so it's not really leaving out that information. What I didn't like before was when ''Paper Mario'' series enemies had TTYD statboxes up top and other games' statboxes further down, along with when enemies from ''Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga'' and ''Bowser's Inside Story'' had both original and remake statboxes together at the top. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 12:36, August 4, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== RE:Birthday card and notebook == | |||
Okay, that was my bad. You have a point. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 14:21, August 7, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== Can I request to vanish? == | |||
Just wondering, I haven’t really edited mariowiki in years and would like to vanish like you can do on wikipedia | |||
:This is a better question for an admin than me, though I'm pretty sure the answer you're looking for is "no". I ''think'' (don't quote me on this) you can request the deletion of your user page, but your talk page stays, and outright vanishing is not a thing AFAIK. Again, you're better off talking to an admin about this sort of thing. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 13:34, August 8, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== RE: Bug Fables == | |||
Okay, I looked around, and he seems to be fought in a similar manner as well (I also underestimated General Guy's popularity), so I'll add it back. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:47, August 20, 2022 (EDT) | |||
==Re:Lost World== | |||
In that case, I'd just refer to the Player's Guides, where the world numbers are listed. Krematoa is considered the eighth world, and presumably so is Lost World, though only the seven normal worlds are numbered. Think how the ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' Warp Zone is "World 9" even though it in no way whatsoever proceeds from World 8. I'm not sure there is a better way to link the ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' levels since you can play some worlds out of the recommended order. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:55, September 13, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== MPA proposal == | |||
Just letting you know, option 2 (your second choice) is now marginally ahead of option 1 (your first choice), so if you'd prefer option 1 to win, you may want to remove the secondary vote. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:56, September 25, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:Option 2 is winning by enough votes that me removing my secondary vote for it won't change the outcome. I'd only do it if that one vote would decide the proposal. I'm fine with option 2 winning. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 15:44, September 26, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== Kutlass and Kosha == | |||
I was more thinking along the lines of "short guy with oversized melee weapon" there; while Koshas are sometimes fairly large, their bodies are still really squat and short-limbed, giving off the impression of being short, and as such it seems more likely to be an intentional non-piratical successor to Kutlass than a coincidence. As for the Kopters, the unused sprites still illustrate their design history, which is what determines how they are inspired by pre-existing entities; in their case, their pose and animation is a dead-ringer for the original Kutlass with helicopter blades replacing the cutlasses, so it seems safe to say (in my opinion) that they are creation-wise as close as, for instance, Krusha, Kruncha, and Krumple or Kannon and Bazuka. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:25, October 14, 2023 (EDT) | |||
:Unused sprites illustrate design history, but are not necessarily representative of the final product. Unused ''TTYD'' sprites heavily imply that [[Smorg]]s were supposed to look like [[Screamy]]. That doesn't mean we should claim in his infobox that he is connected to them, since he clearly has no relation to them at all in the final game. Also, while the Kopter's unused idle stance is similar to Kutlass, there's no indication that he would have behaved like Kutlass in any way. Kutlass may have been used as a base for that sprite purely for convenience and not necessarily because Rare intended the two enemies to be related to one another. As for Kosha, "short guy with oversized melee weapon" is not a very strong connection in and of itself. The two enemies simply do not physically resemble each other outside of that very superficial similarity. The way they both get their weapons stuck in the ground is definitely notable, and I'm not saying that's a coincidence, but that's the only similarity they have. | |||
:However, more than anything, I just ''really'' don't like the "subject_origin" parameter being used this way. [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Species_infobox&diff=prev&oldid=3968459 The intention was to use it for ''real-world species''], not as a wishy-washy middle ground between "variant_of" and "comparable." Let's just not do that so we can prevent tiresome debates regarding "creator's intent." {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 14:55, October 15, 2023 (EDT) | |||