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===Merge [[Nurse Toadstool]] into [[Princess Peach]]=== | ===Merge [[Nurse Toadstool]] into [[Princess Peach]]=== | ||
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{{ProposalOutcome|passed|19-4|merge}} | |||
Unlike the drty man ([[Dr. Mario]]), Nurse Toadstool has no major role or any special abilities that classify her different from her usual self. This is just an alternate costume of Peach. I say we merge her if she doesn't have anything unique other than the fancy costume to classify as a separate article. | Unlike the drty man ([[Dr. Mario]]), Nurse Toadstool has no major role or any special abilities that classify her different from her usual self. This is just an alternate costume of Peach. I say we merge her if she doesn't have anything unique other than the fancy costume to classify as a separate article. | ||
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#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per FF65: ''SSBB'' is proof enough for me. | #{{User|Walkazo}} - Per FF65: ''SSBB'' is proof enough for me. | ||
#{{User|DaisyRox02}} - Per all including proposal. | #{{User|DaisyRox02}} - Per all including proposal. | ||
#{{User|Ralphfan}} – Per all. | |||
#{{User|Mariomaster228}} - Nurse Toadstool is just Peach with different clothes. She has no major roles, is almost never seen in any game, and she is not a main character. On top of that, her article is just a stub with too little info to expand, unlike the Dr. Mario article. Per all. | |||
#{{user|Geniusguy445}} Per all. "Princess Peach Toadstool" vs. "Nurse Toadstool". Hmmmm...I got it! It's her twin sister! They ARE different people! No, they aren't. No speacial abilities except able to PWN Mario at the [[Famicom]] [http://www.mariowiki.com/File:DrMarioPeach.png] Like said before: per all. | |||
#{{user|WigglerWhoopin'Warrior135}} Per all. | |||
====Oppose==== | ====Oppose==== | ||
#{{User|Mileycyrussoulja}} If Dr. Mario gets his own article, then Nurse Toadstool should too. That's final. | #{{User|Mileycyrussoulja}} If Dr. Mario gets his own article, then Nurse Toadstool should too. That's final. | ||
#{{User|mrblob1012}} per all | #{{User|mrblob1012}} per all | ||
#{{User|Mario jc}} Per Mileycyrussoulja - Dr. Mario has his own article, so Nurse Toadstool should too. | |||
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} Per all. | |||
====Comments==== | ====Comments==== | ||
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:The reason we merged them is that they have too similar, or no unique traits aside from having a different name and/or different costume. Pat the Bat is probably just a normal Swooper who acts like one, and Kamek (I think), younger and older, has no distinguishable traits, unlike the babies. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}} | :The reason we merged them is that they have too similar, or no unique traits aside from having a different name and/or different costume. Pat the Bat is probably just a normal Swooper who acts like one, and Kamek (I think), younger and older, has no distinguishable traits, unlike the babies. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}} | ||
::Same reason [[Banzai Bill#Super Mario World television series|Magnum bills]] are merged with [[Banzai Bill]]s.{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 00:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC) | ::Same reason [[Banzai Bill#Super Mario World television series|Magnum bills]] are merged with [[Banzai Bill]]s.{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 00:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC) | ||
Seriously, guys, stop fighting back when you have no leg to stand on. {{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} | |||
That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Baby Mario is DEFINITLY Mario as a baby. Thats why its called BABY Mario! And how Nintendo made yoshi's island a prequel to the mario series, and I'm pretty sure Nintendo called Baby Mario the baby version of Mario a dozen times, and it should be COMMEN SENSE. I mean, Ff67, would the version of you 27 minutes ago be a different person then you are now? {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
The reason is that Shrowser is a possessed bowser, much like [[Dark Fawful]], [[Bowletta]] and some article are seperated because of they're stronger version of the character, such as [[Giga Bowser]] and [[Dr. Mario]] and even [[Wario Man]]. Here, Peach only wears an outfit. I think i said that before...stronger, weaker, younger(if there are official names(toadsworth and toadsworth the younger), these can be split. But come on! Peach only wears an outfit!{{User:Mr bones/sig}}19:54, 13 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
I removed my oppose vote, NOT because they're the same person (because by that logic Baby mario and Baby Luigi should be merged), but because they're both the same people, and they're INSIGNIFICANT. That the main point about it. Hear that Mcd? {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
your logic is flawed because you cant prove that pat the bat and swooper are the same species just like you cant prove the nurse toadstool and princess peach are the same person and by your logic baby mario and mario should be merged because as this proposal implies if they are the same people then they should be merged with one another just like how baby bowser should be merged with regular bowser and baby wario should be merged with wario cause there the same people again your logic not mine {{User|mrblob1012}} | |||
:Baby Mario are Mario have different abilities and they star in the same game. Nurse Toadstool is just Princess Peach in a different alias. So should we split all the King Koopa aliases? No. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 00:04, 14 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
And if this is all about importance then why do bellhop goombas have there own article they arent important there just like nurse toadstool they are just goombas in bellhop outfits {{User|mrblob1012}} | |||
:They are a subspecies of goombas. Unlike their game counterpart, they can turn around at will without bumping to a wall. If you really think that they should be merged, why don't you make a proposal about it? {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 00:04, 14 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
Tried that once got killed by the fact that they are diffrenet charecters with different names what i think is strange is that i keep getting killed by condradictions like how we cant split pat the bat and swooper cause there the same people and we cant merge baby wario and wario even thought there the same people {{User|mrblob1012}} | |||
and what im saying is that your giving me two different ansrews for the same question on one hand we should merge one charecter cause there the same people just different named and the other anserw is that we cant merge these two charecters even though they are the same charecter just a younger age {{User|mrblob1012}} | |||
Mr blob, i can prove peach and nurse toadstool are same people. Look at the trophy description of [[Dr. Mario (character)]] page, it says with his nurse, Princess Peach.{{User:Mr bones/sig}}16:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
OMG, Lgm! You really can't think that Baby Mario and Mario are the same people! Baby Mario is the BABY version of Mario. Its like the 10 year old version of you, or the 5 year old versin of you: the same person. He has NO different abilites then Mario besides probably weaker stats then him due to not being as expierenced as Mario yet, and for both of them to star in the same game. It could just be the result of a time machine. the babies simply just time traveled into the future to play abit. Anyways, The sport games are never considered "Canon". Do you know that word? It means its as if it never happened, or its in an alternate dimension. Its what makes games like Resident Evil, House of the Dead, and Kingdom Hearts so good, and what is the flaw in Mario, Kirby, Zelda, and Pokemon. {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
:Do you have an official source stating that Baby Mario and Baby Weegee time traveled in Mario Kart Wii to race Mario and Luigi? {{User|Fawfulfury65}} | |||
No that was an suggestion. But its been stated MANY times that they are just the baby versions of the adults. Theres not seperate chracters. Would 10 year old FF65 be a different person than 5565 now? Or the FF65 in 2 minutes? {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
smash bros games are not cannon and if you want to play that game then giant goombas should have there own article since there not called grand goombas there called giant goombas and if were playing the diffrenet name game then goomboss and goomba king should be in diffrenet articles {{User|mrblob1012}} | |||
You know the "baby" in Baby Mario is capitalized, meaning it is part of his name. So that indicates that he could be a different character, as it really should be "baby Mario". And anyway, even if they are the same people, which they probably are, Baby Mario is far too different than Mario in the games to be merged, and both of them are able to appear at the exact same times. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}} | |||
0_0 I don't think ANYONE in the world will think Baby Mario and Mario are ''seperate characters''. Well very few at the least. Because after all it should be common knowledge. Especially in Partners in Time: Peach "Could they be? Of course! The MARIO AND LUIGI OF THIS TIME PERIOD." Meaning they're not some weird clone of Mario. {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
thats what im saying your two faced on this issue on one side you want to merge two people who are the same people but on the other side you dont want to maerge someone who is the same person as another {{User|mrblob1012}} | |||
I DON'T want to merge these two. THEY'RE two faced on it. {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
Really dude really why dont you respond to my comment {{User|mrblob1012}} | |||
I'm not two faced on it - Baby Mario and Mario should be split. We shouldn't even be discussing this here; anyone who thinks they should be merged needs to make another proposal. {{User|Fawfulfury65}} | |||
no im using your logic because your saying that we should merge princess toadstool and nurse toadstool because they are the same charecter but we shouldnt merge baby mario and mario even though there the same people {{User|mrblob1012}} | |||
:No, she does not have that logic. Nurse Toadstool and Peach do not have any defined characteristics other than being in a different outfit under a different alias. Luigi and Baby Luigi (yes, they're not Mario and Baby Mario, but still) have distinguishable traits, such as different special items, different stats (baseball), etc. That's why they are split. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}} | |||
really is that why bellhop goombas are split from regular goombas because they are the same thing and its called the process of age thats why they are diffrenet you just make up your own answers dont you cause when i use your own there the same people argument you decide to ignore it {{User|mrblob1012}} | |||
The babies have such different personalities and stats, and are even able to appear at the same time as their adult forms, so they should be merged. Bellhop Goombas should also be split because they act differently than Goombas, at least from my knowledge. {{User|Fawfulfury65}} | |||
The babies have different personalities cuz they're BABY versions of the adults. When YOU get to be 20 years old, you'll have a different personality too. I'll bet 1000000000 dollars on it. Plus, when you were 5, you had a different personality than you have now too. They have no different special items in any games (besides Mk DD) which who cares? Since thy're items. I bet if Nurse Toadstool starred in a game alongside Princess Peach, they'll also have different special moves. {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
Well, if Peach and her nurse form did appear in the same game with different special moves, I'd keep them split, cause that means they are different characters. {{User|Fawfulfury65}} | |||
It does not. Why do you even try Mario realisitic? In mario games, it wouldn't be rare to see a thousand Marios pop out of nowhere. Thats whats good about it. The fantasy, so don't use the logic that if they appear in same games, they're different characters. So does that mean all the Mario costumes in Brawl are different characters? Or that there are 4 different Marios, because 4 Marios can appear at the same time in it? {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
:No, because, no matter what color they are, they all have the same name. If Nurse Toadstool and Peach appeared in a SSB game, they would likely have different names like Mario and Dr. Mario, making them different characters. {{User|Fawfulfury65}} | |||
::BUT they all appear at ''the same time''. So if 10 FF65s appeared in real life, would they be different characters? Besides in Pokemon, all the Pikachus are called Pikachu (unless you name them yourself) but they're still different characters. {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
:::Yeah, Pikachu is a species, that's why. {{User|Fawfulfury65}} | |||
::::The thing about 10 FF65s (in real life not some ficitional userpedia story) still stands. {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
:::::Yes, but if there were ten awesome copies of me, they would all be the same and have the same name. Nurse Toadstool and Peach would have different names if they appeared together in a game. {{User|Fawfulfury65}} | |||
They'actually all be different characters, because those other ten have different brains. No, I mean they're WIRED differently,but you can't control them. You can only control yourself, thus they are different people. Its very confusing I know. Its this philosphical thing. You'll learn it in high school. {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
:Dude, you're not even in high school. But whatever. I don't see how we could merge Baby Mario and Mario anyway because both articles are very long, and the two character's appearances would get all mixed up in one article. {{User|Fawfulfury65}} | |||
I'm actually 13, my birthday being in 2 weeks, so I'm almost 14 actually... , but I knew stuff like that since I was 8. You can READ high school books when you are 8, and 7. I had a 12th grade reading skjill when I was in 4th grade. But anyways, I'm just saying the LOGIC goes that if two people are the same character, they would get merged s a bad logic. MUCH more details are in there not just they are the same people. I DON'T think Baby Mario should get merged, but I'm just pointing out that the logic that two people who are the same character should get merged is wrong. {{User:Booderdash/sig}} | |||
This is for talking about the proposal, not your personal live. {{User:Fuzzipede27/sig}} | |||
@Booderdash So did I. I'm in the advanced lit for the class above me. AND MY BIRTHDAY'S IN ELEVEN DAYS. (sorry Fuzzipede!) | |||
@BD and FF Very in-depth conversation. I still think some research may be needed (emailing Nintendo) and I'm not really up to it, I don't feel like going on Gmail... So if anyone's up to it, email NOA or something,or just ask Iwata, anyone that knows Japanese... Just whatever you do, don't use Y! Answers or WikiAnswers. | |||
@FF about your post before... Yes, Baby Mario and Mario are the same character, but Mario is an adult and Mario's an infant. They both appear in many games and do not do the exact move at the exact time or anything; therefore that's why they only have an alliance article. And Nurse Toadstool and Peace have never worked together, so... | |||
{{User|GamingGal9}} | |||
Emailing Nintendo will do NOTHING. They don't know anything about this (by that I mean the guys that actually reply to the emails). The whole emailing thing is set up for questions about help and support, not for anything else. They will just give you a random answer. {{User|Fawfulfury65}} | |||
@FF Whoopsehdayzeh. (my new thing) Sorry 'bout that. I- never mind. So anything else to say 'bout this? :3 | |||
Dolphin:They should be merged. | |||
@Dolphin That doesnt belong in the coments section {{User:GalacticPetey/sig}} | |||
:If you vote it to be merged, put your comment in the [[#Support|support]] section. {{user:Mario jc/sig}} | |||
==Merged?== | |||
What the... Isn't this merged yet?? {{user:Mario jc/sig}} | |||
:Laziness prevented people from merging it. {{User:Reversinator/sig}} | |||
I merged it. {{User|Mariomaster228}} | |||
:Saw the edit history and did a bit of modifying there. Thanks for the help. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 15:20, 17 October 2010 (UTC) | |||