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==Powers and Abilities section question== | |||
I have a question about one of the quotes in the section: "He can even keep up with the world's fastest hedgehog", of course referring to Sonic... the only source for this is Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games, which portrays Sonic as only marginally faster than Yoshi- now, admittedly, Yoshi is rather fleet of foot, but he cannot run ANYWHERE near the speed of sound. My question is, should a disclaimer to that statement be put in, something along the lines of '(admittedly, only in Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games, wherein Sonic is portrayed as much slower than in his own titles)'? | |||
Because, as it stands, this really irks me, as it hints at Mario being much, MUCH faster than he really IS. Not saying he can't kick it into high gear when he needs to, but stating that he can run at Mach 1 or faster (which is basically what that quote is implying)?!? Yeah, that quote there can be rather misleading. {{User:Dinosaur bob/sig}} 16:54, 11 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
==DDRMM== | ==DDRMM== | ||
Should DDRMM be in the other spin-offs section? {{User:Plumber/sig|It's a me, Mario's Boss! Get back to work Mario! No lunch break for a week!}} | Should DDRMM be in the other spin-offs section? {{User:Plumber/sig|It's a me, Mario's Boss! Get back to work Mario! No lunch break for a week!}} | ||
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I'm pretty sure he was crowned as the ruler of a few places in ''The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!'', but I don't think he ever kept the title. -- [[User: Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] | I'm pretty sure he was crowned as the ruler of a few places in ''The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!'', but I don't think he ever kept the title. -- [[User: Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] | ||
:He was never called king or prince even thought he was ruler of [[Mario Land]]. Also like Grodus said he was kinged a few times, mostly in [[Rap Land]] because in Rap Land it NEVER shows him being unkinged. <big> '''[[ | :He was never called king or prince even thought he was ruler of [[Mario Land]]. Also like Grodus said he was kinged a few times, mostly in [[Rap Land]] because in Rap Land it NEVER shows him being unkinged. <big> '''[[Earth|Click here to see the universe.]]''' '''Super'''''[[User:Super Luigi 821|Luigi]]'''''821''''' '''''[[MC Ballyhoo|Oh you let the hat out of the bag, Big Top!]]''' </big> | ||
Plus the show isn't really part of the main storyline. | Plus the show isn't really part of the main storyline. | ||
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There's more proof up in the [[Talk:Mario#Surname|Surname]] section. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | There's more proof up in the [[Talk:Mario#Surname|Surname]] section. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | ||
The Super Mario Bros. film says that Mario is the last name of Mario and Luigi. {{User|White Knight}} | |||
I thought Mario's last name was meatball but that was a lie. Still I think they have no last name. {{User|Danielnator1}} | |||
== What happens? == | == What happens? == | ||
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The current order of the biography sections is: | The current order of the biography sections is: | ||
*Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island | *Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island | ||
*Yoshi's Island DS | *Yoshi's Island DS | ||
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*New Super Mario Bros. | *New Super Mario Bros. | ||
*Super Paper Mario | *Super Paper Mario | ||
According to [[MarioWiki: Chronology]], ''SML2'' has been set right after ''SML'', because it is the direct sequel. Also, ''M&L: PiT'' has been set after ''M&L: SS''. '''However''', I don't think Partners in Time counts as a sequel, afaik it is a completely unrelated story with merely the same control system. Fawful doesn't change it. If it would, then PM:TTYD would be the direct sequel to PM (because of Bow). Also, I'm spektical about Mario vs DK 2 and Wrecking Crew '98. Do they belong where they are? Lastly, I think Mario Pinball Land and DDR: Mario Mix should be moved to the Spinoff section. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 10:35, 7 October 2007 (EDT) | According to [[MarioWiki: Chronology]], ''SML2'' has been set right after ''SML'', because it is the direct sequel. Also, ''M&L: PiT'' has been set after ''M&L: SS''. '''However''', I don't think Partners in Time counts as a sequel, afaik it is a completely unrelated story with merely the same control system. Fawful doesn't change it. If it would, then PM:TTYD would be the direct sequel to PM (because of Bow). Also, I'm spektical about Mario vs DK 2 and Wrecking Crew '98. Do they belong where they are? Lastly, I think Mario Pinball Land and DDR: Mario Mix should be moved to the Spinoff section. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 10:35, 7 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
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Since Mario was born in the Mushroom Kingdom wouldn't that make him part toad? (This is all confusing I blame the Nintendo works who mess up his LIFE! His culture!)[[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 19:07, 19 February 2008 (EST) | Since Mario was born in the Mushroom Kingdom wouldn't that make him part toad? (This is all confusing I blame the Nintendo works who mess up his LIFE! His culture!)[[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 19:07, 19 February 2008 (EST) | ||
:Nope. Just because someone was born somewhere doesn't necessary mean they are something. Err, what I mean is that if a Koopa was born in the Mushroom Kingdom, would that make him part Toad? Or how about Monty Mole? ...I really don't think so. | :Nope. Just because someone was born somewhere doesn't necessary mean they are something. Err, what I mean is that if a Koopa was born in the Mushroom Kingdom, would that make him part Toad? Or how about Monty Mole? ...I really don't think so. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>·</tt></small> | ||
::Princess: the deal with Peach is that one of her relatives was a Toad, so she is part Toad. However, we know [[Mario and Luigi's Parents]] are both human. This doesn't rule out the possibility that Mario is part Toad, but we have no indication that he is not 100% human. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 21:22, 19 February 2008 (EST) | ::Princess: the deal with Peach is that one of her relatives was a Toad, so she is part Toad. However, we know [[Mario and Luigi's Parents]] are both human. This doesn't rule out the possibility that Mario is part Toad, but we have no indication that he is not 100% human. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 21:22, 19 February 2008 (EST) | ||
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:You forgot to close the <tt><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></tt> tags, so the software considered the bottom half of the page to be part of your reference. Nothing serious, just a <tt><nowiki></ref></nowiki></tt> missing. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 19:45, 22 February 2008 (EST) | :You forgot to close the <tt><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></tt> tags, so the software considered the bottom half of the page to be part of your reference. Nothing serious, just a <tt><nowiki></ref></nowiki></tt> missing. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 19:45, 22 February 2008 (EST) | ||
::Also the refernece thing is real... | ::Also the refernece thing is real... <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>·</tt></small> | ||
:Sounds like a misunderstanding. Instead of saying "Baby Mario and Baby Peach", you can say "Bab<u>ies</u> Mario and Peach", which means that they are both babies. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 19:48, 22 February 2008 (EST) | :Sounds like a misunderstanding. Instead of saying "Baby Mario and Baby Peach", you can say "Bab<u>ies</u> Mario and Peach", which means that they are both babies. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 19:48, 22 February 2008 (EST) | ||
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So your saying that smash world is different from the mushroom kingdom? And so the people from smash world aren't real deal so there like counterparts? (Confusing!) [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 21:37, 24 March 2008 (EDT) | So your saying that smash world is different from the mushroom kingdom? And so the people from smash world aren't real deal so there like counterparts? (Confusing!) [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 21:37, 24 March 2008 (EDT) | ||
[[Super Smash Bros. World|This article offers more information]]. Technically, the events of Brawl are cannon yet they're in a seperate world. So [[Mario|the real Mario]] has never met [[Solid Snake]] or [[Captain Olimar]] or fought [[Yoshi]] and stuff but the [[trophy|trophy version of Mario]] has. Confusing as it is, Brawl is a different world and universe. A whole different timeline. | [[Super Smash Bros. World|This article offers more information]]. Technically, the events of Brawl are cannon yet they're in a seperate world. So [[Mario|the real Mario]] has never met [[Solid Snake]] or [[Captain Olimar]] or fought [[Yoshi]] and stuff but the [[trophy|trophy version of Mario]] has. Confusing as it is, Brawl is a different world and universe. A whole different timeline. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>·</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>·</tt></small> | ||
Princess Grapes: You have it exactly right. There is as much relation between the "real Mario" (as we're calling him :D) and the "Smash Bros. Mario" as there is between "real Mario" and "[[Super Mario Bros. (film)|movie Mario]]". The thing is, unlike the movie Mario, Smash Mario is a counterpart (I like how you put that) rather than a completely different character. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 02:05, 25 March 2008 (EDT) I think I made that more confusing. | Princess Grapes: You have it exactly right. There is as much relation between the "real Mario" (as we're calling him :D) and the "Smash Bros. Mario" as there is between "real Mario" and "[[Super Mario Bros. (film)|movie Mario]]". The thing is, unlike the movie Mario, Smash Mario is a counterpart (I like how you put that) rather than a completely different character. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 02:05, 25 March 2008 (EDT) I think I made that more confusing. | ||
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Stumps you didn't make it more confusing it make scense! So Mario has 3 counterparts. Melee/brawl Mario Movies Mario SMBSS/SM3S Mario. But they are all fake only the video game Mario is real so that means we finshin the case. (I hope I didn't make I more confusing. Sorry) [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 17:43, 25 March 2008 (EDT) | Stumps you didn't make it more confusing it make scense! So Mario has 3 counterparts. Melee/brawl Mario Movies Mario SMBSS/SM3S Mario. But they are all fake only the video game Mario is real so that means we finshin the case. (I hope I didn't make I more confusing. Sorry) [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 17:43, 25 March 2008 (EDT) | ||
:Just an update on this topic. There are several "incarnations" (if you will) of Mario. I've made a list of all the officially separated incarnations. Depending on how all of the sources are connected we may have more, but the following are officially separate. | |||
*Mario of Super Mario Bros. - Often referred to as the "canon" or "real" Mario. Has never been officially separated from ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!]]'', ''[[The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3|Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3]]'', ''[[Super Mario World (TV series)]]'', ''[[Saturday Supercade]]'', ''[[Nintendo Comics System]]'', etc. In other words, anything else I don't mention on this list. There are many occurrences, such as remakes, that decentralize this incarnation of Mario, making his history very sketchy and impossible to determine exactly. For example, is ''[[Super Mario Amada]]'' related at all? How? | |||
*Mario of Super Smash Bros. 1 - The stuffed toy brought to life by Master Hand during the events of the first title. | |||
*Mario of Super Smash Bros. Melee and Brawl - Not officially connected nor disconnected from one another, this incarnation is however officially disconnected from SMB Mario. Connection from Melee and Brawl is assumed because of the Subspace Emissary's prelude that the trophies were veteran fighters. | |||
*Mario of the Movie - Through a what-if scenario that occurred during the age of Dinosaurs, this Mario is very different from the central Mario. Details regarding the what-if scenario and how such a change could have effected the world (it is not confirmed whether we're talking about non-fictional Earth or the fictional Earth seen in titles such as ''[[Mario is Missing!]]'') and Mario. For all of you sci-fi watchers out there you could compare this to an alternate dimensional version of Mario. | |||
*Mario of Super Mario-Kun - NOTE! I have not read Mario-Kun and therefore do not know if there is an official divider, or how closely the series is related to the video games. In other words, I can't tell you whether that Mario is another incarnation or not. | |||
:Hope that makes things clearer. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 01:12, 12 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
==Main picture== | ==Main picture== | ||
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When you edit something out, it's not exactly ''oficcial'' artwork anymore. I think the NSMB one is the best, but I'll wait for someone else to confirm that it would be good. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 19:26, 4 April 2008 (EDT) | When you edit something out, it's not exactly ''oficcial'' artwork anymore. I think the NSMB one is the best, but I'll wait for someone else to confirm that it would be good. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 19:26, 4 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
I've found a better one: [[:Image:MP5Mario2. | I've found a better one: [[:Image:MP5Mario2.png]]. The only thing is that some people might say it's too old to be used as a main picture. But it used to be Wikipedia's, so I think it's good. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 11:25, 24 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
:I hope you don't mind, I corrected some links and format in your message. In regards to your concern about the Galaxy image, the image in question was actually two individual artworks merged into one. You'll notice Tyke's pose is also seen in his artwork (Tyke=Luma if you've played the English version), so I'd still say even with Tyke edited out it would be official. Anyway... Your MP5 example is fine... go ahead if you want. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 23:42, 24 April 2008 (EDT) | :I hope you don't mind, I corrected some links and format in your message. In regards to your concern about the Galaxy image, the image in question was actually two individual artworks merged into one. You'll notice Tyke's pose is also seen in his artwork (Tyke=Luma if you've played the English version), so I'd still say even with Tyke edited out it would be official. Anyway... Your MP5 example is fine... go ahead if you want. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 23:42, 24 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
::I just want someone else's opinion before I change stuff. Come on users, is [[:Image:MP5Mario2. | ::I just want someone else's opinion before I change stuff. Come on users, is [[:Image:MP5Mario2.png]] good for a main picture? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 10:08, 25 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
::Actually, a better quality version of the MPDS Mario picture was uploaded, so now I want to upload that one. Anyone agree? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} | ::Actually, a better quality version of the MPDS Mario picture was uploaded, so now I want to upload that one. Anyone agree? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} | ||
ANYONE? Come on, people! 09:27, 31 May 2008 (EDT) | ANYONE? Come on, people! 09:27, 31 May 2008 (EDT) | ||
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What do you have to say to this? Unless Mario's dad is called Mario Senior, which I seriously doubt. So take it into consideration... - [[User:SiFi|SiFi]] 09:58, 15 June 2008 (EDT) | What do you have to say to this? Unless Mario's dad is called Mario Senior, which I seriously doubt. So take it into consideration... - [[User:SiFi|SiFi]] 09:58, 15 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
:Well, it's always possible that they just call it that because we're familiar with Mario. Plus, once in a while those trophies make mistakes. I think someone said that Princess Daisy's trophy said that she first appeared in Mario Golf, which is wrong. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 11:45, 15 June 2008 (EDT) | :Well, it's always possible that they just call it that because we're familiar with Mario. Plus, once in a while those trophies make mistakes. I think someone said that Princess Daisy's trophy said that she first appeared in Mario Golf, which is wrong. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 11:45, 15 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
::I share your concern on that point, Crystal, but the fact is that we're looking at a video game source here. They are, according to MarioWiki:Canonicity, the highest order of canon. I know that I don't believe it is our place to organize official sources into levels of canon, but since you've been using that article in your argument, I will too, just because you can't argue to a police officer that a law should or will be different: right now it is what it is. Smash Bros. was made by HAL, a gaming company bought up by Nintendo and since integrated to the extent that its former employee Iwata became Nintendo's president. While ''Melee'' did make a mistake about Daisy's first appearance, it got many other things correct. In other words, we now have a video game source, a TV show source, and even a movie source, all of which say the same thing: Mario's last name is Mario. How do we know that SiFi's idea of Mario's Dad also being named Mario is false? Because Mario has NEVER been called "junior." {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 21:05, 15 June 2008 (EDT) | |||
:That's true, but I think it just says "The Mario Household" to mean that it's Mario's house. Well, that doesn't really matter, but whether we have Mario or Mario Mario, ''please'' no Dr. at the beginning. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 14:28, 17 June 2008 (EDT) | |||
::Yeah, we shouldn't do that until someone can find a source that offically says Mario got his PhD or Mushroom Kingdom equivilent. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 14:31, 17 June 2008 (EDT) | |||
:::Well, that's not really the point. The point is that Dr. Mario is discussed in a separate article. This article is just about Mario in general. I'm gonna go ahead and remove it, and if someone has an objection they should tell me before slapping the Dr. back on. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 11:20, 21 June 2008 (EDT) | |||
His surname IS Mario as it refers to the "Mario Bros.". {{unsigned|Miss Koopette}} | |||
== Childhood with Peach and Mario? == | == Childhood with Peach and Mario? == | ||
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Shouldn't there be a section of Mario's appearances in comics, anime, cartoons, ect. like with the other characters? Or is it on the page and I'm just not seein' it. | Shouldn't there be a section of Mario's appearances in comics, anime, cartoons, ect. like with the other characters? Or is it on the page and I'm just not seein' it. | ||
:I remember it, but I was wondering the same thing just the other day. Some uber-video-game purist may have deleted it without our noticing, but who knows. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 01:11, 12 June 2008 (EDT) | :I remember it, but I was wondering the same thing just the other day. Some uber-video-game purist may have deleted it without our noticing, but who knows. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 01:11, 12 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
== Forms Section == | |||
Would anybody else be in favor of the creation of either a written section or chart of the forms Mario takes on throughout his adventures? (ex. [[Fire Mario]], [[Super Mario]], [[Invincible Mario]]) If so, would it be better as a chart or written out? I'm thinking maybe a chart would be best, just because there are so many forms. You could have: the form name, the ability it gives him, the game(s)/TV shows/comics he became them in, and the item that caused it. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 15:09, 12 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
:I think its a good idea, but instead of a chart what if we use a table with a similar layout to the one that shows all of King Koopa's disguises in the Super Show - Kamicciolo | |||
::My mistake - that's exactly what I was thinking of. I was thinking we could make it a sortable chart, too. Let me do up an example. The same could be added to Luigi's article with little trouble (aside from removing "Metal Luigi" and other forms from games he was not in). {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 20:21, 12 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
:::My only complaint with that layout would be that maybe we could have images to show what each form looks like, and out of wondering would it just be Mario & Luigi we do this for or should we include Wario? {{unsigned|Kamicciolo}} | |||
::::Agreed on both counts. Wario would especially benefit from this. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 22:45, 12 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
{| class=sortable align=center width=100% cellspacing=0 border=1 cellpadding=3 style="border-collapse:collapse; font-family:Arial" | |||
|- | |||
! width=20% | Picture | |||
! width=20% | Name | |||
! width=20% | Ability | |||
! width=20% | Item | |||
! width=20% | Appearances | |||
|- | |||
| align=center| [[Image:SMB2 SuperMario.jpg|100px]] | |||
| align=center| [[Small Mario]] | |||
| align=center| N/A | |||
| align=center| N/A | |||
| align=center| ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'', ''[[Super Mario World]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros.]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| align=center| [[Image:SMB2 SuperMario.jpg|100px]] | |||
| align=center| [[Super Mario]] | |||
| align=center| Extra Hit-point | |||
| align=center| [[Super Mushroom]] | |||
| align=center| ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'', ''[[Super Mario World]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros.]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| align=center| [[Image:Normal firemario.jpg|100px]] | |||
| align=center| [[Fire Mario]] | |||
| align=center| [[Fireball]] throwing | |||
| align=center| [[Fire Flower]] | |||
| align=center| ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]'', ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'', ''[[Super Mario World]]'', ''[[New Super Mario Bros.]]'', ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' | |||
|} | |||
:I'd also suggest making the 'appearances' links smaller, so they don't look as crammed. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 03:27, 13 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
::How do you change text size? I've never actually done it! {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 09:23, 13 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
:::Just bringing this up, wouldn't Super Mario have alot more appearances (like in sports games and the 3D Platformers) since it is considered Mario's regular form? - Kamicciolo | |||
::::You only hear about it in games where small/regular Mario is another form. I'm not really sure it's good to list all of those appearances when size-changing issue doesn't apply (ex. SM64: Mario doesn't get smaller when hit). The exception would be Mario Strikers Charged, where one of Mario and Luigi have a special move where they become bigger. You are right though: New Super Mario Bros. showed Mario as his normal size in relation to Princess Peach in the opening. He then got hit with a Green Shell and shrank to Small/Regular Mario. The other size is the size he is when he becomes Super Mario. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 11:27, 13 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
:::::Your right about how there is no Small Mario to factor in, but no matter how you look at it Mario is still in his Super form in those games, which is why I brought it up - Kamicciolo | |||
::::Stumpers: put <nowiki><small></nowiki> before the links, and put <nowiki></small></nowiki> after the links. Just be careful to do it strictly around the links; I don't know if putting it elsewhere could make the table look glitched. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 18:33, 22 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
==Wario== | |||
Nothing is mentioned about Wario under Interactions with other characters! Next to Bowser, I would dare say that Wario is perhaps Mario's greatest enemy. {{User:White Knight/sig}} | |||
:You should make a section, then. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 10:23, 16 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
Oh, I'd like to, but I can't. Only members who have been here a while can edit this particular page. I don't see what's so special about Mario on mariowiki, though. :) {{User:White Knight/sig}} | |||
:As it probably is the main article of the wiki, it is especially vulnerable to vandalism, that's why it is semi-protected. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 13:27, 16 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
::But, honestly; How long do you have to be registered to edit a semi-protected page? {{User:Garlic Man/sig}} Seems a little unfair to the people who want to contribute. | |||
:::I hadn't noticed it was protected! Sorry, WK. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 16:28, 16 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
It's quite all right, Stumpers. I was just saying this incase anyone wanted to add it. I like to add things to this wiki when I see a problem. {{User:White Knight/sig}} | |||
Well something I'd like to say here: Wario isn't always Mario's enemy, Super Mario 64 DS for example. He usually does what will satisfy his greed. :-P {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 09:31, 17 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
:Garlic Man: I believe you have to be registered for 15 days before being able to edit this page. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 18:21, 22 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
::Oh, ok. But doesn't that seem a bit long, though? Is the time changable, or is it set by MediaWiki or something? Before asking Steve, I think we should gather some opinions on whether 15 days is too long or not(that's half a month!). I really doubt a vandal is going to wait 15 days just to mess up a/multiple page(s). What do you guys think? {{User:Garlic Man/sig}} 5 days even sounds sufficient to me... | |||
:::I personally believe it should be 7 days, but it may be set in stone by MediaWiki. However, before we go any further into discussion, I'd suggest moving this conversation to the Main Talk Page. {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 18:31, 22 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
::::Discussion has been moved. Copied, rather. {{User:Garlic Man/sig}} | |||
== Mario References == | |||
Hey guys, what about writing about Mario References in another games? (Banjo-Tooie for instance?)[[User:Quac|quac]] 12:50, 27 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
:Per our current policy regarding cameos, "official cameos" (those in Nintendo games or those, such as [[NBA Street V3]], were licensed by Nintendo) are to be included in the articles. "Unofficial cameos" are to be placed on the "Sightings" pages. Banjo-Tooie would go under, [[Game Sightings]] in the references section. I believe it's already there. Thanks for your concern! {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 16:26, 27 August 2008 (EDT) | |||
== Image changed == | |||
I changed Mario's Mario party 8 artwork for a more recent artwork. | |||
{{unsigned|Koopalmier}} | |||
:Hmmm... well, maybe a picture of just Mario (without anything else, like a baseball bat) would be better. [[:Image:MPDSMario.jpg]], for example. Unless anyone strongly disagrees, I think I might change it. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 10:50, 1 September 2008 (EDT) | |||
:: I think the more current artwork (baseball) is best. Baseball and Party are both spin-offs, so this isn't a matter of importance. Rather, we're talking about whether Mario is holding something in a picture. Either way, it's still a picture of Mario. Wikipedia, or example, is okay with pictures of singers holding something other than microphones. I definately don't think we need to be ''more'' picky than Wikipedia on this point (people holding things in pictures). {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 11:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT) | |||
:::kay then, I won't change it. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 18:23, 5 September 2008 (EDT) | |||
==Construction Tag== | |||
There is a construction template under what "Mario is sometimes Called". Is it still under construction because we're missing sources? {{User:Garlic Man/sig}} | |||
== Image == | |||
I changed the actual image for a recent image ( Mario is a bit different in the recent images, exemple: his pants have a color a bit different ), but I think this is not a good thing. Am I right ? {{unsigned|Koopalmier}} | |||
What about a trivia in this article?[[User:Sonic Rocks|Sonic Rocks]] 20:16, 18 October 2008 (EDT) | |||
== First "3-D" game? == | |||
I noticed the section discussing his appearance in Super Mario RPG refers to the game appearance being Mario's first time in 3-D. Did you mean, more than just a flat side-scroller, or are you referring to the graphics themselves? If the ladder, that's wrong, if the former, you're right. [[User:Leirin|Leirin]] 17:13, 25 November 2008 (EST) | |||
:Either way, I'm sure the passing reader is going to think 3D graphics rather than "not a side-scroller." {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 20:05, 25 November 2008 (EST) | |||
== Wario in Super Mario 64 DS? == | |||
I know that it already happened but, why was Wario in Super Mario 64 DS? I mean why would Princess Peach invite him!? {{User|Danielnator1}} | |||
Maybe she didn't want Wario to get angry at her for not inviting, having another foe and kidnaping her. She's been kidnapped heaps of times. | |||
14:19, 22 January 2009 (EST) | |||
:For future reference, a question about a game's plot should be placed on the game's talk page, in this case [[Talk:Super Mario 64 DS]]. You can also chat about games on our forum (on the left hand navigation bar). But, onto you question: As of ''[[Mario Party]]'', we know Wario was one of Mario's close friends due to the game's narration, and they have remained so from that point on. Peach invited Wario to her castle in ''[[Mario Party 3]]''. However, their friendship goes way back: according to the first ''[[Mario vs. Wario]]'' comic, the two were playmates as children. Though Wario remembers these incidents with anger, Mario remembers them with fondness. In the second comic, Peach invites Wario to her birthday party. If one assumes that earlier published events happened earlier (except where noted), that would mean that at some point after ''[[Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins]]'', where Wario stole Mario's castle, the two must have become friends once again. However, there is still some antagonism between Mario and Wario, as seen in ''[[Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix]]''. Now, for the out-of-universe answer: Wario became one of the most popular Mario characters following ''Super Mario Land 2'', and got his first starring role just a few short years later in ''[[Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3]]''. Compare that to [[Donkey Kong]], who finally got his own series many many years after his original appearance. In fact, Wario's popularity is comparable to [[Yoshi|Yoshi's]], who also got his first staring role very shortly after his first appearance. Since then, the ''[[Wario (series)|Wario]]'' spin-off series has developed around him, proving his popularity. As you know, the three characters I mentioned above all headline a spin-off series (the ''Wario, [[Yoshi (series)|Yoshi]], and [[Donkey Kong (series)|Donkey Kong]]'' series respectively, and as such [[Nintendo]] considers them popular enough to be characters in the various ''Mario'' spin-offs and to be referenced in some of [[Mario]]'s main adventures. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 14:31, 22 January 2009 (EST) | |||
== The Star Gate Quote == | |||
I don't have the one with Luigi but here it is what it said about Mario: | |||
"''You are true and courageous. Your heart is filled with virtue and concern for your brother. I do recomend you watch your diet, however it is also filled with much Alfreado sauce. You should especially cut down on carbora, though it will be hard, for that is very tasty. If you curb your appetite, do some light cardio work and continue to ward your brother. You will no doubt grow to be a figure of immense popularity, yet not grow an immense belly. You may pass and I do recomend puttanesca; that stuff is great.''" | |||
It makes some points and we should mention them if they are not mentioned already: | |||
* Mario likes eating alfreado sauce and carbora so that's why he needs to be on a diet | |||
* Mario really trusts Luigi (my bro is just so annoying) | |||
* Puttanesca ISN'T great. I've tried it and I don't like it | |||
[[User:Miss Koopette|Queen of Koopas]] 14:19, 22 January 2009 (EST) | |||
:Thanks for posting that quote! We need to create a list of implied foods throughout the series, which includes the Alfredo sauce, carbora, and puttanesca. This also confirms that Mario enjoys Italian food, something that was previously stated repeatedly in the ''Super Show'' and then seemingly dropped from the rest of the series. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 14:37, 22 January 2009 (EST) | |||
You're welcome. I will try to complete the game again. if I can and I hope I'll get the quote for Luigi. {{unsigned|Miss Koopette}} | |||
== Non-cannonical content == | |||
Why is there non-cannonical content on the biography ? Educative games don't count, nor other medias that video games. | |||
[[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 14:27, 22 January 2009 (EST) | |||
:Please see [[MarioWiki:Canonicity]] and refrain from removing the content. Also know that this article is severely out of date in terms of Wiki article organization policy. Please see [[Mama Mario]] for an example of how articles ''should'' be organized, particularly in terms of video games versus other sources. So, don't remove the content, simply reformat the article per policy (you can find the whole policy on our FAQ pages, etc.) {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 14:34, 22 January 2009 (EST) | |||
::See [[MarioWiki: Manual of Style]] for more details. Also I believe [[Bowser]] follows the policy pretty well. -- {{User|Son of Suns}} | |||
:::Thank you, that was the page I was looking for. Koopalmier, feel free to discuss the page with me on my [[User talk:Stumpers|talk page]] = I'm looking to get a group of interested people working on the article. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 16:49, 22 January 2009 (EST) | |||
::::Well, the whole page is non-"cannon"ical. I don't see any Bullet Bill Blaster on it... --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 17:02, 22 January 2009 (EST) | |||
:::::"Leapin' lasagna, Luigi! Blitzwing made a better joke than we ever did!" {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 17:37, 22 January 2009 (EST) | |||
== He's Italian == | |||
Mario is italian, unfortunetly, I can't edit due to a protection. Please unprotect, I was chosen to edit. Mario is italian. Who denies, hates him.[[User:FoodGourmet55|FoodGourmet55]] 13:00, 23 January 2009 (EST) | |||
:In time, you will be allowed to edit protected articles. In the meantime, please be aware that this article needs more work than perhaps any other article on the Wiki, and so many things, such as Mario's race as established by [[Charles Martinet]]'s comments, may or may not be included. Also, please refrain from making assertions that anyone who does not agree with you hates Mario. Such assertions go against our policies, in which one is to assume good faith in other users' edits unless said edits are obviously vandalism, etc. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 13:56, 23 January 2009 (EST) | |||
::Mario isn't Italian. He born and lived in the Mushroom Kingdom. Charles Martinet gave him an Italian accent for fun. [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] 18:13, 23 January 2009 (EST) | |||
:::Actually, Martinet was explicitly asked to provide the voice of an Italian plumber from Brooklyn. Ergo... {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 03:47, 24 January 2009 (EST) | |||
I agree with with all of you. Mario is Italian and the aritcle is the most important in the whole wiki. Nintendo Staff said that most of the Mario fans can make up things about Mario so I will ask them if '''Rossi''' is a suitable surname for him. It's Italian (like his first name), it's similar to the word "Rosso" (which means red) and I read somewhere that it's the most popular surname in Italy. If Nintendo comfirms it, can we show the changes? | |||
[[User:Miss Koopette|Queen of Koopas]] 09:32, 1 February 2009 (EST) | |||
:Provided you have adequate documentation, we would have to mention it, yes, but I'm not sure how one would adequately document an e-mail... :P His surname of Mario has been confirmed here and there, as well, although originally Nintendo said they didn't have last names. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 16:00, 1 February 2009 (EST)~ | |||
== Non-Canon Appearances == | |||
Are we aloud to put non-canon appearances here, such as a Mario appearance on The Simpsons, pop-culture, etc? <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[File:Yoshi Mario Hat SM64DS.png|30px]] | |||
:If notable enough, those appearances can go in the Trivia section. Otherwise, they should be placed in the [[references]] pages. -- {{User|Son of Suns}} | |||