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:I would consider Manky Kongs a sub-species. However, I would not consider any enemy without the "Kong" surname a sub-species. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] | :I would consider Manky Kongs a sub-species. However, I would not consider any enemy without the "Kong" surname a sub-species. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] | ||
[[ | [[File:DKP Character Select E3 2001.png|thumb|right|Mystery Kong.]] | ||
==New Kong== | ==New Kong== | ||
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I have this picture of him, one of the few Diddy Kong pilot pics. I could find. Hes between Cranky and Donkey. | I have this picture of him, one of the few Diddy Kong pilot pics. I could find. Hes between Cranky and Donkey. | ||
Hmm... he looks like a hillbilly. Anyway, we should have a | Hmm... he looks like a hillbilly. Anyway, we should have a Beta Elements page just like on Mariowiki.--[[User:Knife|Knife, the guy who just asks questions, but does nothing on the wiki]] 23:22, 12 December 2006 (EST) | ||
His name is Bumpkin kong from what I've heard and yes we should put him in the article. | His name is Bumpkin kong from what I've heard and yes we should put him in the article. | ||
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:Wait a second... It doesn't seem like this character belongs in Beta Elements. He isn't exactly a Beta Element, just a character from a game that was never released. If Diddy Kong Pilot ''was'' released, I'll bet this guy would've still been in. --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 11:34, 3 February 2007 (EST) | :Wait a second... It doesn't seem like this character belongs in Beta Elements. He isn't exactly a Beta Element, just a character from a game that was never released. If Diddy Kong Pilot ''was'' released, I'll bet this guy would've still been in. --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 11:34, 3 February 2007 (EST) | ||
It technically was released: | It technically was released: Banjo-Pilot. -- [[User: Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] | ||
:Oh, yeeeaaahh.... Sorry, I'm not that Donkey Kong adept. Anyway, based on what I've gathered, I did, however, make a Banjo-Pilot section for [[Donkey Kong Beta Elements]]. --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 22:26, 4 February 2007 (EST) | :Oh, yeeeaaahh.... Sorry, I'm not that Donkey Kong adept. Anyway, based on what I've gathered, I did, however, make a Banjo-Pilot section for [[Donkey Kong Beta Elements]]. --[[User:YellowYoshi398|YellowYoshi398]] 22:26, 4 February 2007 (EST) | ||
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Is kong a species of ape in mushroom world, or is it just the name for Donkey Kong's family of apes? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} | Is kong a species of ape in mushroom world, or is it just the name for Donkey Kong's family of apes? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} | ||
:Uh... Both? - {{User:Blitzwing/sig}} | :Uh... Both? - {{User:Blitzwing/sig}} | ||
Really? I'd find it a little weird if some family's last name was "human". {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 09:41, 1 March 2008 (EST) | |||
Since all the simians are kongs (that I know of), it is a species.[[User:Zjschertz|Zjschertz]] 21:40, 4 May 2010 (EDT) | |||
I think kongs are a species of simian that can have the traits of any known type. Also, [[Ukiki|Ukikis]] are simian, but they're not kongs [[User:MarioLover54|MarioLover54]] ([[User talk:MarioLover54|talk]]) 13:51, August 2, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== [[Mini Donkey Kong]] == | |||
Should this character be added? He isn't really a monkey, but he is based off of Donkey Kong. [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 15:51, 7 February 2011 (EST) | |||
:This article lists the members of the Kong species. Mini Donkey Kong is a toy, AKA not part of it, thus he doesn't belong here. --[[User:Reversinator|Reversinator]] 17:41, 12 February 2011 (EST) | |||
== Family Relationships == | |||
So a good chunk of the Kongs have been confirmed as family (i.e. DK and Funky are brothers, Diddy is DK's nephew and Funky's son, Kiddy and Chunky are brothers and Dixie's cousin, etc.) So should we add a Kong Family Tree of sorts? {{Unsigned|173.80.148.140}} | |||
:Where is it confirmed that Donkey Kong is related to Funky? i'm pretty sure they have been confirmed as just being friends. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}} | |||
::I dunno, I heard it somewhere. If it's not confirmed then just don't add it- but it is definitely confirmed that Cranky and Wrinkly are married, DK is their son/grandson, Diddy is DK's nephew, Dixie and Tiny are sisters, Kiddy and Chunky are Dixie and Tiny's cousins, etc. So... {{Unsigned|173.80.148.140}} | |||
:Nvm, the [[Kong Family]] covers that :) {{unsigned|173.80.148.140}} | |||
== Related species == | |||
Okay, who removed the grunt and the ukiki from related species? Those belong there, they're primates! [[User:MarioLover54|MarioLover54]] | |||
:Both being primates does not a relation make. If that was true, we'd be listing every single human character in the whole Mario series as related. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 07:55, August 1, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:Not characters, just the species! Also, it scientifically does. [[User:MarioLover54|MarioLover54]] | |||
I meant simians! [[User:MarioLover54|MarioLover54]] ([[User talk:MarioLover54|talk]]) 13:49, August 2, 2019 (EDT) | |||
They're both simians, is that better? [[User:MarioLover54|MarioLover54]] ([[User talk:MarioLover54|talk]]) 13:50, August 2, 2019 (EDT) | |||
Hello? [[User:MarioLover54|MarioLover54]] ([[User talk:MarioLover54|talk]]) 14:55, August 2, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:>_> >_> >_> The "related species" parameter is for species who were created ''specifically'' to be related, not ones who ''happen'' to be of a similar real-life species. Stop being so impatient. Ukiki is borderline due to an unused boss from SMW2, but Grunt has nothing to do with this. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:57, August 2, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:Even then, a single enemy wouldn't be sufficient for a connection in my honest opinion. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 09:48, August 3, 2019 (EDT) | |||
Alright, but I at least think the grunts from one of the Wario games deserve a mention, those do happen to be gorillas! [[User:MarioLover54|MarioLover54]] ([[User talk:MarioLover54|talk]]) 09:55, August 3, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:That's literally the same logic wearing a different hat. "They're gorillas" alone is not enough. Period. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 09:56, August 3, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Television Show and other spin-off media == | |||
I think the various Kongs from the TV show (as well as comics or novels) should be put in their own separate category on the page instead of treated interchangeably with the ones who appear in-game. They're from a totally separate continuity that has no bearing on the (admittedly tenuous) DK game lore. As unlikely as it is that Nintendo or one of their partner studios includes Lanky Kong or Swanky Kong in a new Donkey Kong game, it's still infinitely more likely than the absolute 0% chance of anything from the tv show ever being referenced in any game. The Super Mario Bros. Super Show versions of characters are usually clearly separated from the game ones on Mario series articles, the same should be done on Donkey Kong articles. -- [[User:Lurdiak|Lurdiak]] 13:18, July 11, 2022 (EST) | |||
:Per [[MarioWiki:Canonicity]], all licensed media is treated as being on equal footing since Nintendo has never really cared to establish a consistent canon, so we wouldn't separate certain media. I'm not aware of this being done with the Super Show, can you point to some examples? --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:25, July 13, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== Latest appearance == | |||
Discuss by preventing edit war. Only Donkey and Diddy have usually been used in "Mario" games. Also Dixie, Cranky and Funky have appeared in Tropical Freeze. On the other hand, any other Kongs haven't had ''any'' physical appearance in the last decade. The duration of disappearance is longer than the duration of existence. Chunky Kong has not been used in Paon era and Mario games at all. [[User:Windy|Windy]] ([[User talk:Windy|talk]]) 12:57, July 18, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:We don't really go out of our way to note characters currently being absent for stretches of time, so I don't see a reason for it to be done here (especially on the Kong group article rather than individual character articles). --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 16:19, July 18, 2022 (EDT) | |||
It is true that they have not been in a game in 15 years. To says simply, they haven't been in a game since the early days of the [[Wii]], earlier than [[Super Mario Galaxy]]. In other words, no physical appearance in 3DS or Wii U platforms at all. Also [[Lanky Kong]]'s voice actor (Kentaro Tone; May 29, 1982) was 25 years old at the time, but is 40 at now. [[User:Windy|Windy]] ([[User talk:Windy|talk]]) 16:58, July 18, 2022 (EDT) | |||