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 ==What's the rewrite tag for?==
 Could anyone please explain why is there a rewrite tag in the Green Yoshi page? The writing looks fine to me. [[User:QBert64|QBert64]]
+==Merge Green Yoshi with Yoshi or Yoshi (species)==
+{{SettledTPP}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|gray|canceled by proposer}}
+This article is messy. While ostensibly about the Yoshi color, it doesn't know if it really wants to be about the character or the species, which have enough overlap as it is. A third article about practically the same subject is unnecessary and infringes [[MarioWiki:Once and only once|once and only once]]. This proposal will turn Green Yoshi into a redirect for either Yoshi or Yoshi (species). If it passes, I also suggest deleting its gallery, as much of it is already used in the character or species galleries, or both. There will probably be a follow-up proposal to determine what to do with the other Yoshi colors, which are merely an aesthetic difference in the vast majority of appearances.
+'''Proposer:''' {{User|LinkTheLefty}}<br>
+'''Deadline:''' March 21, 2019, 23:59 GMT
+===Merge with Yoshi===
+#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} My secondary choice, as it still cleans up such an extraneous article.
+#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Second choice, as i don't want the rest of the colored Yoshis be merged to Yoshi (species). The rest REALLY deserves their own article.
+#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} After a bit of thinking, I decided on this: if I was wanting to search for Green Yoshi, I would want to be taken to a page with Yoshis of the color green. And since the character Yoshi is green, I wouldn't mind this redirecting to him.
+#{{User|GrainedCargo192}} I thought all the green Yoshis were the same Yoshi.
+#{{User|MarioManiac1981}} I've noticed a lot of information on the character's page repeated in this page, and vice-versa. I'm all in for this.
+===Merge with Yoshi (species)===
+#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} My preferred choice, as other green Yoshis have made their appearance.
+#{{User|Waluigi Time}} At this time, I support the idea of all Yoshi colors being merged to the species page.
+#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Ehh, while I ''do'' wish we were able to deal with every colored Yoshi article in one fell swoop, this page in particular duplicates the [[Yoshi (species)]] page, and should probably be merged there instead of the base [[Yoshi]] page.
+#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per Waluigi Time. None of the Yoshi colors are great standalone pages and any info they may have can easily be organized in their species page.
+#{{User|MarioManiac1981}} My second choice.
+===Keep Green Yoshi===
+#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} There is a difference between the character and the species.
+#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Thought it over, and I think this should be an "all or nothing" kind of thing. This one shouldn't get unequally-small "species" treatment because an alleged "character" happens to be consistently portrayed that color. Either they all get merged, or none do.
+===Comments===
+I would rather already see a much larger proposal concerning what to do with every colored Yoshi article, rather than ''just'' dealing with this one first, tbh. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 01:55, 8 March 2019 (EST)
+:I feel like that's a separate issue because a few of them ''did'' have minor gameplay differences in ''Super Mario World'', and they're returning judging from the ''Super Mario Maker 2'' trailer. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 06:07, 8 March 2019 (EST)
+FanOfYoshi: This isn't about the "character" or the "species" articles, it's about a third article that's somewhere in the middle and basically duplicates information from both. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 06:15, 8 March 2019 (EST)
+:Also, the rest of the colored Yoshis aren't factored in this proposal, and if I do make a proposal about them, I'll include an option to leave the basic three from ''Super Mario World'' alone. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 06:30, 8 March 2019 (EST)
+::I'd argue for a merge for those three too, actually. The gameplay abilities each have are as unique as the fruit preferences in Yoshi's Story or their stats in the Mario Baseball games in that they can easily be described in a paragraph or chart. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 22:40, 8 March 2019 (EST)
+:::I would too, but I figure it's a safe option. Anyway, it seems I'm getting more support than I thought I would for the other Yoshi colors. Should I just add it to this proposal? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:45, 9 March 2019 (EST)
+@Yoshi the SSM: There are other green Yoshis besides ''the'' Yoshi character, you know. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 09:29, 9 March 2019 (EST)
+:Yeah, but from what I am understanding, it is being redirected to the page. Which is why I say that redirecting it to that page would be more ideal than to redirect to the species article. Was thinking about asking for an option to make it an disambig, but decided to vote for that option to make it clear that I didn't support redirecting it to the species page.
+:But, if we keep Green Yoshi and don't turn it into a redirect, what would it mean for the article? The answer of the question could help me decide whether or not to vote to keep Green Yoshi. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 23:02, 9 March 2019 (EST)
+@GrainedCargo192: [[Baby Yoshi|No,]] [[Village Leader|they]] [[Fearsome 5|are]] [[Mini-Yoshi|not.]] This misconception isn't helped by the state of the current Yoshi article, but that's another topic. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:59, 9 March 2019 (EST)
+To those who support merging Green Yoshi with Yoshi the character: That article is already extremely speculative at points, and merging these two will make it even worse. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 22:00, 9 March 2019 (EST)
+:Not to mention multiple green Yoshis have been seen at once, notably in the stampede attack in TTYD. In fact, the one on the train in said game was just a random average Joe who didn't know Mario at all. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:16, 9 March 2019 (EST)
+::I'm a bit confused. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 15:09, 10 March 2019 (EDT)
+Since I'm getting support to deal with the other Yoshi colors, I have canceled the proposal. The replacement proposal can be found [[Talk:Yoshi (species)#Merge all or certain color Yoshis into Yoshi (species)|here]]. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:32, 10 March 2019 (EDT)